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RedHotX said:
Chain?
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the fats we eat are really triglycerides, which are a glycerol molecule with 3 chains of carbon atoms which we call fatty acids, they are bound to the glycerole molecule, short chain, long chain and medium chain (these are the chains), the majority of fats are long and short chain which give us 9 calories per gram, while fats that have undergone a chemical process to strip out other chains and leave medium chain trigycerides soley, can contain only 8.3 calories per gram, they do this with coconut oil and sell it as MCT oil (MEDIUM CHAIN TRIGCLYCERIDE OIL)
but yes in jubies case he should have been using 9 calories per gram unless he was suggesting that he consume MCT oil, which is a more efficient oil for athletes since it's able to oxydize faster.
variation said:
the fats we eat are really triglycerides, which are a glycerol molecule with 3 chains of carbon atoms which we call fatty acids, they are bound to the glycerole molecule, short chain, long chain and medium chain (these are the chains), the majority of fats are long and short chain which give us 9 calories per gram, while fats that have undergone a chemical process to strip out other chains and leave medium chain trigycerides soley, can contain only 8.3 calories per gram, they do this with coconut oil and sell it as MCT oil (MEDIUM CHAIN TRIGCLYCERIDE OIL)
but yes in jubies case he should have been using 9 calories per gram unless he was suggesting that he consume MCT oil, which is a more efficient oil for athletes since it's able to oxydize faster.
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Fukkenshredded
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As has been mentioned, you will need to specify your goals. I can tell you what you will look like if you just train to be lean and strong for the next five years...you will look like me. I'm skinny, but I don't care at all. I'm 5'10 and right at 175, never over 7-8% bodyfat at my fattest (when I weigh around 182-185).
There are pics of me floating around here somewhere...maybe someone will post them and you can see if its the look you want.
Most people want to be a bit bigger than I am. Personally, I feel great at 175lbs. I'm fast, whippet lean, strong for my weight, without headaches, etc. I use primarily fina and oxandrolone, with a tiny test base (200mg/week). I got really ripped the first few times with high doses of winny, but that is very unhealthy and the same results can be achieved with fina, which is a much safer drug than winstrol.
One thing I can say about staying lean while you train--you will have a dense look to your muscles that a lot of bigger lifters do not have. I am not big, but my forearms look like steel cables and I generally have a christmas tree in my back when standing relaxed if I am on cycle. In the sauna, people guess my weight at around 195. That's twenty pounds heavier than I actually am.
Detail is the envy, bro. Stick with lean musculature...let the size come at its own pace. My suggestion is to focus on squats and deads for about a year, along with sprints to keep your heart in shape and keep you really hard looking.
165 is thin at 6', but not too thin. Don't be fooled by mass monster wannabees or pro bodybuilder standards unless that is really what you want for yourself. Should you gain weight? I think about twenty pounds of super dense muscle and you will be about right, at least in my way of thinking. Take your time...three years...put it on dense and strong and slow and deliberate. It will stay when you are off cycle that way.
In fact, the only thing that changes when I am on is that I look harder and get about five pounds heavier. I only cycle to prepare for photo shoots, films, and to maintain a generally hard, striated look...I do not cycle to gain any more muscle. I gain roughly 2 lbs/year. People laugh at me when they read that, and when they read my stats, but I'll put my pic up against anyone on or off cycle. I'm thin, but I am in shape.
In the end, its all about what you want for yourself, not what other people think you should want. My suspicion is that you are proud of your body right now. You should be. There are more members here who wish they were lean and ripped, even if it meant being thin, than will ever openly admit it. You look good right now in the context of general male physiques, and it is only in the context of purposeful aesthetic development that one could say that you are lacking development. In any case, the main issue here is maturity. It was said earlier in this post, with your genetics, you can take it either way. Your muscle bellies are full and long and your bones and joints are small and prominent...you're head is not oversized and you have height, so for you the sky is the limit.
Just what ever you do be sure you do it the right way, with emphasis on training technique and diet. Stay lean if you can, you will NOT regret it. Take it from someone who is lean and ripped at 35 and still getting somewhere with small doses and infrequent cycles.
There are pics of me floating around here somewhere...maybe someone will post them and you can see if its the look you want.
Most people want to be a bit bigger than I am. Personally, I feel great at 175lbs. I'm fast, whippet lean, strong for my weight, without headaches, etc. I use primarily fina and oxandrolone, with a tiny test base (200mg/week). I got really ripped the first few times with high doses of winny, but that is very unhealthy and the same results can be achieved with fina, which is a much safer drug than winstrol.
One thing I can say about staying lean while you train--you will have a dense look to your muscles that a lot of bigger lifters do not have. I am not big, but my forearms look like steel cables and I generally have a christmas tree in my back when standing relaxed if I am on cycle. In the sauna, people guess my weight at around 195. That's twenty pounds heavier than I actually am.
Detail is the envy, bro. Stick with lean musculature...let the size come at its own pace. My suggestion is to focus on squats and deads for about a year, along with sprints to keep your heart in shape and keep you really hard looking.
165 is thin at 6', but not too thin. Don't be fooled by mass monster wannabees or pro bodybuilder standards unless that is really what you want for yourself. Should you gain weight? I think about twenty pounds of super dense muscle and you will be about right, at least in my way of thinking. Take your time...three years...put it on dense and strong and slow and deliberate. It will stay when you are off cycle that way.
In fact, the only thing that changes when I am on is that I look harder and get about five pounds heavier. I only cycle to prepare for photo shoots, films, and to maintain a generally hard, striated look...I do not cycle to gain any more muscle. I gain roughly 2 lbs/year. People laugh at me when they read that, and when they read my stats, but I'll put my pic up against anyone on or off cycle. I'm thin, but I am in shape.
In the end, its all about what you want for yourself, not what other people think you should want. My suspicion is that you are proud of your body right now. You should be. There are more members here who wish they were lean and ripped, even if it meant being thin, than will ever openly admit it. You look good right now in the context of general male physiques, and it is only in the context of purposeful aesthetic development that one could say that you are lacking development. In any case, the main issue here is maturity. It was said earlier in this post, with your genetics, you can take it either way. Your muscle bellies are full and long and your bones and joints are small and prominent...you're head is not oversized and you have height, so for you the sky is the limit.
Just what ever you do be sure you do it the right way, with emphasis on training technique and diet. Stay lean if you can, you will NOT regret it. Take it from someone who is lean and ripped at 35 and still getting somewhere with small doses and infrequent cycles.
Gigantasor
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That is odd? Why post here if you "don't plan to continue"? If you want size I agree put on the lbs. You need something to work with. You are lean and if that is your goal good job. If you want mass you need to rethink your approach.
I agree as well about the Deads. I would put some serious thought into developing the lower back and hams. It will do a lot for the "thick" look I think you are looking for. IMO
I agree as well about the Deads. I would put some serious thought into developing the lower back and hams. It will do a lot for the "thick" look I think you are looking for. IMO
Just2Flex4Ever
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Ok well to tell you the truth I wanted to gain around 15lbs of muscle but my goal is a look like John Basedow look at his picture gallery:
http://www.fitnessmadesimple.com/
http://www.fitnessmadesimple.com/
Atomic Punk
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jubei said:
Lmao.
Atomic Punk
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~ThaGame~ said:
you didn't bust up anyone, who are you the new big bad bully on the EF block or something?
this is coming from a guy who posted elsewhere that you can't be ripped without the right genetics
I havn't acknowledged you yet, and you obviously want me to since you keep responding to my threads that are of no concern of yours, right?! So ok, I'll give you some attention little boy.
First of all, stop chiming into business that isnt yours. Second of all, if you are an ENDOMORPH, then no, you will not be able to get cut/ripped/shredded. No matter how you train or eat. That is what I said. It's true if ya had any clue. Go to bed.
Gigantasor
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Punk,
Are you saying that an enodmorph cannot shread or cut? That F**kin sucks if that is the case. I am the worst kind of endo. Where did you hear/learn that? Any way you could point me to the material so I could become a bit more enlightened? Any help would be cool.
Are you saying that an enodmorph cannot shread or cut? That F**kin sucks if that is the case. I am the worst kind of endo. Where did you hear/learn that? Any way you could point me to the material so I could become a bit more enlightened? Any help would be cool.
Atomic Punk
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abc 1 said:
Then you're not an endomorph.
Atomic Punk
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~ThaGame~ said:
what do you have to say about that atomic mouth?
Lol. Good one. Finally. Read
Atomic Punk
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~ThaGame~ said:
Here's a quote from "Heathcheck". Notice the bottom statement!
Body Type or Somatype
Somatype is another term for body type. Most people have a genetic predisposition toward one specific somatype and supportive traits from a second somatype.
There are three genetic somatypes: ectomorph, mesomorph, and endomorph.
An ectomorph (endurance athlete) possesses a low body fat percentage level, small bone size, a high metabolism, and a small amount of muscle mass and muscle size.
A mesomorph (power athlete) possesses a low to medium body fat percentage level, medium to large bone size, a medium to high metabolism, and a large amount of muscle mass and muscle size.
An endomorph (nonathlete) possesses a high body fat percentage level, large bone size, a slow metabolism, and a small amount of muscle mass and muscle size.
Your body type is something you're born with and can't necessarily change. However, you obviously can change your dietary habits and level of physical activity to positively affect your body fat percentage.
You can have lower bodyfat & STILL not be cut. HOW? If you are an ECTOMORPH. You dorkomorphs.
i am an endomorph and have gotten shredded down. it's through proper diet, training, and supplementation. you have no idea what your talking about so please do not attempt to tell me what i am. i am an extremely hard working endomorph who proved your baseless theory wrong.
sorry, your wrong here. i am what i am, i just decided to change that over the course of a few years.
all your theory sounds like is an excuse thicker people can use to hide their inadequate diet and training. like i said, i decided to do something about my former fat ass.
sorry, your wrong here. i am what i am, i just decided to change that over the course of a few years.
all your theory sounds like is an excuse thicker people can use to hide their inadequate diet and training. like i said, i decided to do something about my former fat ass.
that's where you have gotten this misinformation from. at least you quoted something, i'll give you credit for that.
it's wrong though. sorry. it took a few years, but i was able to change my body. year round dieting works. when you gain so easy, there is no real need to bulk. focus 110% on being lean and it will happen. not over night, but it will happen. good luck if you try for it, if that's your situation. if not, good luck with what ever you decide to do.
it's wrong though. sorry. it took a few years, but i was able to change my body. year round dieting works. when you gain so easy, there is no real need to bulk. focus 110% on being lean and it will happen. not over night, but it will happen. good luck if you try for it, if that's your situation. if not, good luck with what ever you decide to do.
Atomic Punk
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abc 1 said:
Well no. That was just something I pulled right off the net, out of my ass. See, it didnt take me long to back the info I am posting, because there is a TON of info to back it. I would classify a classic endomorph to be(imo) that dude who won Tough Enough. The black kid..can't remember his name(David maybe). He definitely dieted down, lost weight, and put on muscle. Yet he still retains that smooth, soft look despite these achievments. You can't change genetics in his case. He can lower his bodyfat sure, but he will still have the genetic makeup that he was born with. I seriously doubt the fact(but Im not calling you a liar) that you have an endo body type bro. Either way, you're entitled to kudos for what you have accomplished. You don't have to be an Endo/Ecto to have to have worked hard for what you have.
Atomic Punk
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RedHotX said:There are plenty of
people that were once
fat but now are
ripped.
Obviously 15 years
of training hasn't given
you a brain.
I
don't mean to sound
like an asshole, but
you have no idea
what you are talking
about.
RedHotX
Maven..Right. The fuck is David?? Anyhow----------Mr. Red Writer, "training" isn't what we are talking about. It's genetics. If you want to call me stupid, at least know what I'm talking about.
By the way...It's a good thing you have that red writing thing. It's something that will allow people to remember your posts, where your lousy advice & shit attitude wouldn't cut it. Peace. Owned. Later.
Atomic Punk said:
You said you have
been training 15 years,
that seems impossible since
your attidute seems of
a 15 year old.
How old are you?
Diet alone can make
someone ripped.
There are
plenty of people that
have gone from fat
to very ripped.
Many
even on this board,
including me.
There are
even pictures of this.
RedHotX
Just2Flex4Ever
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Ya'll keep arguing about stupid stuff LOL!!
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