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[LifttoLive]

. Pay attention to the words i say. My bench has gone up 5LBS. since i have cycled off. When i was on the d-bol my bench went up 45 lbs. Im not a beginner and i have done my homework on my training. the only thing i lacked was my diet. you all helped a bunch, and i am training my muscles different too. im gigving them more rest and working them differently. i know its best to change the workout and shock the muscles different. For the month of march i am going to be taking protein and this powder i bought called vapor. Suppost to be good shit. ill find out today. Try not to treat me like a fuckin retard. I may not be as big but you have to start somewhere. I know it may not be smart to jump in to gear right away but im not stacking like a body builder or nothing. Its just a jump start. Remember that.

Seriously though, i really do appreciate all your help.
-LifttoLive

 

[GUARDIAN]

Alright, you have accolplished pissing me off now. Pay attention to the words i say. My bench has gone up 5LBS. since i have cycled off. When i was on the d-bol my bench went up 45 lbs. Im not a beginner and i have done my homework on my training. the only thing i lacked was my diet. you all helped a bunch, and i am training my muscles different too. im gigving them more rest and working them differently. i know its best to change the workout and shock the muscles different. For the month of march i am going to be taking protein and this powder i bought called vapor. Suppost to be good shit. ill find out today. Try not to treat me like a fuckin retard. I may not be as big but you have to start somewhere. I know it may not be smart to jump in to gear right away but im not stacking like a body builder or nothing. Its just a jump start. Remember that.

Seriously though, i really do appreciate all your help.
-LifttoLive

Who are you calling out in this thread? If you had a problem with someone you should handle it offline through PM's.

 

[LifttoLive]

Who are you calling out in this thread? If you had a problem with someone you should handle it offline through PM's.

To be honest i dont even know what a PM is. As far as im concerned it means pre menstral. lol.just kiddin. It's meant for who ever reads my posts and thinks im dumb. im not mad at anyone, i just want to get the point across. Please dont take the message in a wrong way.

 

[rudy76]

If your not mad maybe edit out the first line cause it sortta sounds likes your mad......

 

[swole]

hey bro where did this hostility come from? is someone giving you a hard time?

PM = private message

And why would we think you're dumb? For what it's worth just because your bench goes up doesn't mean you're immune to needing good advice

Maybe you're trying to thank us lol, so in that case...you're welcome?

 

[LifttoLive]

hey bro where did this hostility come from? is someone giving you a hard time?

PM = private message

And why would we think you're dumb? For what it's worth just because your bench goes up doesn't mean you're immune to needing good advice

Maybe you're trying to thank us lol, so in that case...you're welcome?

I am defenitly not immune to good advice. Ill take all i can get. But seriosly though, when i tell you my weight 155 i feel like you think i am small and to be honest if you could see from where i came from you wouldnt think that. you guys know better than anyone this shit takes time.
???Is vapor any good???

 

[GUARDIAN]

i just wanted to clarify. when your title in bold says, "READ CAREFULLY...." most of us do exactly that and then question who all the perceived hostility is directed at since we were all instructed to READ CAREFULLY...lol

As far as the vapor which i think is a muscle tech product and if that is the case then head this warning muscle tech = crap imo.....lol. just invest in a good whey protein powder and u can get the other supps they say they are putting in there on the side much cheaper.

 

[LifttoLive]

i just wanted to clarify. when your title in bold says, "READ CAREFULLY...." most of us do exactly that and then question who all the perceived hostility is directed at since we were all instructed to READ CAREFULLY...lol

As far as the vapor which i think is a muscle tech product and if that is the case then head this warning muscle tech = crap imo.....lol. just invest in a good whey protein powder and u can get the other supps they say they are putting in there on the side much cheaper.

I hope you are wrong but your prolly right. Damn if its shitty i feel sorry for the guy at gnc because i will cuss him till he faints.

 

[RearNaked]

As far as the vapor which i think is a muscle tech product and if that is the case then head this warning muscle tech = crap imo.....lol.

+1

Overhyped + Overpriced.

 

[GUARDIAN]

GNC is a rip off in general. sometimes that have decent clearance stuff. but suppose u r happy with the vapor try to find it online next time. i usually find 25-50% cheaper & alot of times with free shipping compared to gnc.

I hope you are wrong but your prolly right. Damn if its shitty i feel sorry for the guy at gnc because i will cuss him till he faints.

 

[LifttoLive]

GNC is a rip off in general. sometimes that have decent clearance stuff. but suppose u r happy with the vapor try to find it online next time. i usually find 25-50% cheaper & alot of times with free shipping compared to gnc.

Your right, Fuck, ididnt even to think about goin online. Ok, i may be a dumbass but i am a smart dumbass. at least give me that.

 

[MichaelScott]

thats what she said

 

[khemix]

You're approach is way off man. Pay attention to the words you say? Sounds like something my daddy would say to me when I was a kid...

What do you want from us in this thread? To tell you our opinion of vapor and protein powder? To tell us that you got great strength with dbol? Or for us to tell you how stupid it is to do a dbol only cycle as a jump start (i remembered, like you told me) so that it will shut you down, just like any other steroid (to a lesser degree, yes), with half the benefits of a real cycle? Remember, we don't know ANYTHING about you. Stats, weight, history, etc and its hard for us to not treat you like a noob after that.

I dont think you're dumb, I just can't figure out what you want from this thread? You're telling us that your not a beginner, but your doing dbol only cycles and that your diet wasn't on? And that you know your supposed to "change the workout and shock the muscles different" which, no offense, sounds like something a noob would say. I know you said you're not a noob, but come on man.

It just sounds like you dont know what your doing and trying to appear like you do. I hope I'm way off, though.

Please don't take any offense to this, I just dunno wtf you want or wtf your thinking or trying to get out of this.

Chris

 

[LifttoLive]

You're approach is way off man. Pay attention to the words you say? Sounds like something my daddy would say to me when I was a kid...

What do you want from us in this thread? To tell you our opinion of vapor and protein powder? To tell us that you got great strength with dbol? Or for us to tell you how stupid it is to do a dbol only cycle as a jump start (i remembered, like you told me) so that it will shut you down, just like any other steroid (to a lesser degree, yes), with half the benefits of a real cycle? When you come to this board with the appearance of an attitude like that, you're not going to get a positive response.

I dont think you're dumb, I just can't figure out what you want from this thread? You're telling us that your not a beginner, but your doing dbol only cycles and that your diet wasn't on? And that you know your supposed to "change the workout and shock the muscles different" which, no offense, sounds like something a noob would say. I know you said you're not a noob, it just kinda looks like it.

It just sounds like you dont know what your doing and trying to appear like you do.

Please don't take any offense to this, I just dunno wtf you want or wtf your thinking.

Chris

I am definetly not trying to appear like anything. One thing is when i see some people taking 3 or 4 fiffernt kind of roids i think about how fucked up their body is going to be in the long run. Steriods fuck the body up so by me only taking d-bol i thought it might be easier on my body. if it wasnt to late now. but it hasnt hurt me in any way that i can tell. But the thread was meant for the people that read my post to not to assume i have no idea. I really do. i just didnt get on this forum soon enough to get all the intel about "gear."
Its easier to give people advice if you know where they have been and know where they are trying to be. if you need to know where i have been you should ask. If you disagree then thats cool.

 

[searay]

I am definetly not trying to appear like anything. One thing is when i see some people taking 3 or 4 fiffernt kind of roids i think about how fucked up their body is going to be in the long run. Steriods fuck the body up so by me only taking d-bol i thought it might be easier on my body. if it wasnt to late now. but it hasnt hurt me in any way that i can tell. But the thread was meant for the people that read my post to not to assume i have no idea. I really do. i just didnt get on this forum soon enough to get all the intel about "gear."
Its easier to give people advice if you know where they have been and know where they are trying to be. if you need to know where i have been you should ask. If you disagree then thats cool.

3 or 4 different steroids fuck up your body ? thats a new one on me and ive been at this for over 20yrs. well they say you learn something every day....
actually, using 3-4 aas at lower doses on each is called stacking and works much better for many reasons. synergy and less sides from lower dosing of each aas are 2 examples oh why..........

 

[BLAZAY]

8 and 20 is trying waaaayyy to hard to get a mod position.. ur not gonna get anything out of it dudeee..

 

[khemix]

I am definetly not trying to appear like anything. One thing is when i see some people taking 3 or 4 fiffernt kind of roids i think about how fucked up their body is going to be in the long run. Steriods fuck the body up so by me only taking d-bol i thought it might be easier on my body. if it wasnt to late now.
I understand your reasoning there, but Dbol only is more harmful than testosterone @ 400mg/wk, for 10 wks. And the benefits of the testosterone will FAR outweight the benefits and sides of dbol. You seem uneducated in that field and it makes you look like a noob. I know you said you got intel about gear too late, I'm just saying it how it looks.

but it hasnt hurt me in any way that i can tell.
Thats kinda how steroids work bro. There has never been a death directly due to steroids, EVER. They kill you indirectly, usually from years and years of abuse. I've persoanlly been on 10wks of test/tren (supposedly the worst) and got bloodwork done every month due to being on accutane at the same time. And you know what? I was completely healthy the entire duration and have the paperwork to prove it.

But the thread was meant for the people that read my post to not to assume i have no idea.
What was this thread meant for in the first place??

I really do. i just didnt get on this forum soon enough to get all the intel about "gear."
I understand you here, bro. But you need to understand something as well. You're a new guy here, with a very negative attitude, whom we know nothing about, giving us very vague info, doing dbol only cycles, with a lousy diet. Those are the kinds of guys we dont take seriously. Thats just the way it is.

Its easier to give people advice if you know where they have been and know where they are trying to be. if you need to know where i have been you should ask. If you disagree then thats cool.
You're damned straight its easier that way! So WTF did you come here for? Don't you want to make it easier for us to give you advice??!

And I suppose you didn't think about the fact that if you told us youre age, stats, training history and all, that we may take you more seriously?

So now...answer me this: (see, now I'm asking you like you told me to)

Age
Weight
Bodyfat %
Training History
Cycle History
Diet Example
Goals

Chris

 

[mr.nitro]

its beter to be silent and be thought of as being a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt

 

[artificialaspirations]

sounds like a teenager to me

 

[GUARDIAN]

8 and 20 is trying waaaayyy to hard to get a mod position.. ur not gonna get anything out of it dudeee..

the only thing i am trying to get is people educated and keep them safe which can be done without flaming, bashing, or making them feel stupid for asking. they can get that elsewhere for free.

as u just found out i can be quite the DICK when the occaision arises. i choose to be helpful in a respectful manner.

if u have nothing of value to add to this person's questions then _________ (fill in the blank smarty)

 

[needtogetaas]

I don't know what this thread is all about but let me explain something. We do not except
hostility with open arms on this forum. Myself other mods,admen, and the members have worked damn hard over the last few months to keep this board clean from bullshit like this. Take a different tone with the members that are trying to help you.

 

[Mavafanculo]

I've read all your replys and i will do as you say. Your knowledge far exceeds mine. Im 18 and am a senior in high school. ?

from another thread ^^

lifttolive - you shouldnt be taking anabolics at 18.

you're not doing yourself any favors starting aas's at that age - you'll be fusing your growth plates for one thing - some late bloomers can continue to grow a bit at your age, plus you should have a solid drug-free base before you think about messing with your hormones.

at your age, you can make great gains naturally because of the high levels of test, gh, and natural recovery ability.

now that we know how old you are, I think you should confine your questions to diet, supplements, technique etc.
-

 

[MichaelScott]

i dont know what the hell is going on myself

 

[needtogetaas]

from another thread ^^

lifttolive - you shouldnt be taking anabolics at 18.

you're not doing yourself any favors starting aas's at that age - you'll be fusing your growth plates for one thing - some late bloomers can continue to grow a bit at your age, plus you should have a solid drug-free base before you think about messing with your hormones.

at your age, you can make great gains naturally because of the high levels of test, gh, and natural recovery ability.

now that we know how old you are, I think you should confine your questions to diet, supplements, technique etc.
-

 

[ryno9000]

I had a great flaming flame all typed and everything, and then I thought "No Ryno9000...what does that prove? It proves nothing. It proves nothing." And so I deleted it, but it was so good that I felt I had to write this flame tribute, so I could still be recognized for my work and my taking of the higher road.

 

[needtogetaas]

I had a great flaming flame all typed and everything, and then I thought "No Ryno9000...what does that prove? It proves nothing. It proves nothing." And so I deleted it, but it was so good that I felt I had to write this flame tribute, so I could still be recognized for my work and my taking of the higher road.

The site thanks you bro.

 

[motiondo]

...I aint's tryin to start nothing.....but this post had me RAOTFF

 

[Mavafanculo]

I had a great flaming flame all typed and everything, and then I thought "No Ryno9000...what does that prove? It proves nothing. It proves nothing." And so I deleted it, but it was so good that I felt I had to write this flame tribute, so I could still be recognized for my work and my taking of the higher road.

so noted in the record.

 

[bsdgeek]

from another thread ^^

lifttolive - you shouldnt be taking anabolics at 18.

you're not doing yourself any favors starting aas's at that age - you'll be fusing your growth plates for one thing - some late bloomers can continue to grow a bit at your age, plus you should have a solid drug-free base before you think about messing with your hormones.

at your age, you can make great gains naturally because of the high levels of test, gh, and natural recovery ability.

now that we know how old you are, I think you should confine your questions to diet, supplements, technique etc.
-

DING! DING! DING!

 

[khemix]

LMFAO! I could tell he was a highschooler and I was so temped to guess that he was 18! I had it typed in one of my posts but decided to edit it out!

Damned kids. I knew more about this shit when i was 16 than most do now, so age is no excuse for ignorance.

 

[BLAZAY]

the only thing i am trying to get is people educated and keep them safe which can be done without flaming, bashing, or making them feel stupid for asking. they can get that elsewhere for free.

as u just found out i can be quite the DICK when the occaision arises. i choose to be helpful in a respectful manner.

if u have nothing of value to add to this person's questions then _________ (fill in the blank smarty)

lol control your e-gression there.. ur a postwhore just admit it.. half the threads u dont even read.. for example i was in a thread today, where a guy listed his cycle information, and you told him all he needed was diet are cardio. Obviously, if you are juicing, what makes it right for u to do so, and wrong for him. Just curious, about why u r trying so hard.. it doesnt pay.. i love how u try to act so tuff in the as forums and act like a little girl in the c and c thread.. id just like to point out that there are way better people here, who give out information, and most of your advice is str8 up garbage. I remember when someone asked u for ur diet info, u didnt even reply, but ignored it by quoting someone elses post.. u never actually give any good useful advice..

 

[khemix]

lol control your e-gression there.. ur a postwhore just admit it.. half the threads u dont even read.. for example i was in a thread today, where a guy listed his cycle information, and you told him all he needed was diet are cardio. Obviously, if you are juicing, what makes it right for u to do so, and wrong for him. Just curious, about why u r trying so hard.. it doesnt pay.. i love how u try to act so tuff in the as forums and act like a little girl in the c and c thread.. id just like to point out that there are way better people here, who give out information, and most of your advice is str8 up garbage. I remember when someone asked u for ur diet info, u didnt even reply, but ignored it by quoting someone elses post.. u never actually give any good useful advice..

Hes not worth our time and has nothing to actually offer to the forums, other than drama. I could be wrong, but I was looking through his past posts and saw nothing worth the bandwidth. This is not e-gression, this is simply a logical approach to a problem that is easily solved.

(I just want you to know you're worthless in the AS forum. Again, you have nothing to offer (maybe in C&C?) and you have never contributed ANYTHING)

I understand how you think 8and20 is trying too hard, and I would almost agree. I'm in earnest of his available time here, his immense knowledge, and his willingness to put up with bullshit like yours. And so fuckin' what if he wants to be a mod?!?! WTF is wrong with that?

And just because YOU say he wont get anything out of it doesn't mean shit.

When you become a respected member of this forum, maybe then you'll get the time of day.

Members like you are whats wrong with Elite.

Chris

 

[Mavafanculo]

blazay why are you picking fights with 2 mentors so far today - why all the hostility? There's a way to disagree with someone's advice and this isnt it.

take a day off and come back with a different attitude or dont bother to come back.

This isnt the atmosphere we want on the AAS board

 

[ceo]

from another thread ^^

lifttolive - you shouldnt be taking anabolics at 18.

you're not doing yourself any favors starting aas's at that age - you'll be fusing your growth plates for one thing - some late bloomers can continue to grow a bit at your age, plus you should have a solid drug-free base before you think about messing with your hormones.

at your age, you can make great gains naturally because of the high levels of test, gh, and natural recovery ability.

now that we know how old you are, I think you should confine your questions to diet, supplements, technique etc.
-

I posted in the thread you quoted him from. I also posted in another thread to him about his FIRST cycle. I told him the same things you did.

Guess what? He did his cycle. Started at 5'11" and 135 lbs. Got all the way up to 155 lbs. His goal is 180 (or 185).

Then, he started another thread about his NEXT upcoming cycle. People jumped right in and gave him advice on his cycle. Drugs to take, how long, how much.

He will soon be doing another cycle. Nothing anyone can do about it really. He won't listen to anything anyone sayd about not taking steroids yet. Like most 18 yr olds, you can't tell him a thing.

He probably directed this thread at me. So fucking what? I'll tell him again and tell him every damn time that he doesn't know shit. He doesn't know what he's doing and instead of listening to others who give GOOD advice (don't take steroids yet - concentrate on eating and training), he does what he wants. He posts to get others to affirm him. He wants "yes men".

 

[Powerbuilder333]

blazay why are you picking fights with 2 mentors so far today - why all the hostility? There's a way to disagree with someone's advice and this isnt it.

take a day off and come back with a different attitude or dont bother to come back.

This isnt the atmosphere we want on the AAS board

One for Mav.

 

[get456]

But the thread was meant for the people that read my post to not to assume i have no idea. I really do. .

No, you really dont have any idea... our assumptions are correct....

You need to sit back and READ and then ACT with the suggestions you receive that DONT INCLUDE using AAS.

You are EIGHTEEN! and a senior in HS... YOU are why Congress is fucking with every legitimate 30+ year old business man who wants to do his own HRT and just BE healthy... Every single "meeting" and the millions and millions of dollars our government is wasting on telling the US populous how bad AAS are is because of people like you.

That is just a fact, unfortunately.

 

[juicyjuice85]

I am defenitly not immune to good advice. Ill take all i can get. But seriosly though, when i tell you my weight 155 i feel like you think i am small and to be honest if you could see from where i came from you wouldnt think that. you guys know better than anyone this shit takes time.
???Is vapor any good???

vapor sucks super pump 250 is much better. Vapor gives me a terible crash after working out.

 

[bsdgeek]

YOU are why Congress is fucking with every legitimate 30+ year old business man who wants to do his own HRT and just BE healthy... Every single "meeting" and the millions and millions of dollars our government is wasting on telling the US populous how bad AAS are is because of people like you.

PREACH ON MA BROTHA!!!!!!!!!

 

[Sartan]

You are EIGHTEEN! and a senior in HS... YOU are why Congress is fucking with every legitimate 30+ year old business man who wants to do his own HRT and just BE healthy... Every single "meeting" and the millions and millions of dollars our government is wasting on telling the US populous how bad AAS are is because of people like you.

That is just a fact, unfortunately.

I had a great flaming flame all typed and everything, and then I thought "No Ryno9000...what does that prove? It proves nothing. It proves nothing." And so I deleted it, but it was so good that I felt I had to write this flame tribute, so I could still be recognized for my work and my taking of the higher road.

I hope you are wrong but your prolly right. Damn if its shitty i feel sorry for the guy at gnc because i will cuss him till he faints.

Wow sooo many good quotes in this thread.
Now if someone would ask if you can drink Winny this would be the perfect thread.
Props to 8/20 for being patient cuz sometimes I say dumb stuff too
Kevin

 

[Mavafanculo]

lifttolive - start up a few threads on diet/nutrition/supps and training techniques geared towards younger guys training naturally.

there's a lot of young guys in your situation who would benefit along with you by some feedback and advice on drug-free bodybuilding for late teens/early twenties. Make the most of this time because you're body will never be so primed for growth naturally as it is now. The natural base that you build now will be with you for life



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