QV or Britsh Dragon ?

[hammertime30]

His book isn`t a crap however lab tests made by SRCS concern me a bit... I`ve seen BD Decabol tested at 324mg/1ml and Trenabol at 115mg/1ml.
I seriously doubt those results. No manufacturer will overdose the products so much. And this is a first time I hear about bad results. And they are coming from the same lab, correct? People wouldn`t be upset with any tests when it comes to BD. Everyone who tried their gear was pleased with the results. And you will not find any bad comments on the boards.

I totally agree...as I mentioned earlier that I'm currently doing BD EQ and test cyp and dammit it's kicking ass...I don't know about QV, but I'll stick with BD!!!!

 

[sh4dowf4lcon]

QV, no question. Less faked and there are no dosing issues at all. Every test i've seen for them has been spot on.

 

[Bill Llewellyn]

looks to me hes tryin to sell somthing

You are right.. I can never be trusted to tell the truth, because I write books and magazines.. Damn greed gets in the way all the time.. You are much better off trusting the lab tests supplied by the manufacturers themselves.

 

[Retabolil2]

You are right.. I can never be trusted to tell the truth, because I write books and magazines.. Damn greed gets in the way all the time.. You are much better off trusting the lab tests supplied by the manufacturers themselves.

I`d believe tests coming from users, not from a manufacturer, distributor or magazine publishers. Sorry, hope you take no offense. I don`t trust megadoze tests such as 324mg/1ml for Dercabol or tests which show 30mg/1ml of propionate instead of 100mg. Also I don`t trust NBC TV shows, do not expect them to say that UG gear is high quality and match all pharmaceutical standards. Hey don`t expect any BD or QV advertisement in TV shows! They will say all kind of crap about them being dirty and underdosed!

 

[Bill Llewellyn]

I`d believe tests coming from users, not from a manufacturer, distributor or magazine publishers. Sorry, hope you take no offense. I don`t trust megadoze tests such as 324mg/1ml for Dercabol or tests which show 30mg/1ml of propionate instead of 100mg. Also I don`t trust NBC TV shows, do not expect them to say that UG gear is high quality and match all pharmaceutical standards. Hey don`t expect any BD or QV advertisement in TV shows! They will say all kind of crap about them being dirty and underdosed!

The problem with trusting anonymous "users" on the internet is you rarely know for sure who they are.. And few people are going to spend the money to test steroids and publish them, certainly not at the rate that I am.. Often these tests are coming from somone working for the company, or selling their stuff and being reimbursed by the company.

If you can't trust an independent and reputable third party source like me, with no interest in how the results turn out, well then, who can you trust? I suggest you pay for all the testing yourself, and ignore all other results then.

 

[VeteranNewbie88]

Yes, it is definitely on the list of things I plan on testing. Whenever a company comes out with a rare and expensive compound like this, it draws immediate interest in such.

In that case....I'm extremely curious about their Trenabol (Parabolan)....

 

[Bill Llewellyn]

In that case....I'm extremely curious about their Trenabol (Parabolan)....

I don't mind releasing this, as I believe it has been discussed on the net before by Ronny Tober (an excellent contributor of mine). The last test the two of us ran on that came back at 87mg/ml. This is Trenabol, not trenabol Depot. So it is labeled at 75mg/ml, and came back at 87mg/ml. This was overdosed, not under. The Lot on this was #03-2003. A good result I would say..

I don't want to give that impression that BD is a bad firm, or trying to rip off their customers. I've talked them up well in the past, and like the products they are coming out with. I think that the CM may have taken a couple of liberties with the ingredients/dosing on a few of their newer batches. The Mastabol was very off, and the main reason I made such an issue out of this, but it did have drostanolone PROPIONATE (why they label it di-propionate is beyond me, as there is no such animal). 20-25% off on another couple of products is not terrible, and not "theft" in my opinion. We'll just call it a a bump in QC.

I think it should be clear that I have no axe to grind with any company, BD included. I am entirely independent, and could care less what someone puts in a product. It is not like I have stock in them.

 

[VeteranNewbie88]

I don't mind releasing this, as I believe it has been discussed on the net before by Ronny Tober (an excellent contributor of mine). The last test the two of us ran on that came back at 87mg/ml. This is Trenabol, not trenabol Depot. So it is labeled at 75mg/ml, and came back at 87mg/ml. This was overdosed, not under. The Lot on this was #03-2003. A good result I would say..

I don't want to give that impression that BD is a bad firm, or trying to rip off their customers. I've talked them up well in the past, and like the products they are coming out with. I think that the CM may have taken a couple of liberties with the ingredients/dosing on a few of their newer batches. The Mastabol was very off, and the main reason I made such an issue out of this, but it did have drostanolone PROPIONATE (why they label it di-propionate is beyond me, as there is no such animal). 20-25% off on another couple of products is not terrible, and not "theft" in my opinion. We'll just call it a a bump in QC.

I think it should be clear that I have no axe to grind with any company, BD included. I am entirely independent, and could care less what someone puts in a product. It is not like I have stock in them.

Thanks for all the info. Mr. Llewellyn....the Tren acetate seems to pass with flying colors, which is great news....however, I def. should have been more specific, I'm curious as to how their Tren Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate measures up....correct me if I'm wrong...I've been off the boards for the last couple yrs, but this compound was THE most sought after item back then....for old Negma Parabolan is legendary....I'm very curious if this even compares....keep up the good work, I admire your devotion to the cause....

 

[Bill Llewellyn]

Thanks for all the info. Mr. Llewellyn....the Tren acetate seems to pass with flying colors, which is great news....however, I def. should have been more specific, I'm curious as to how their Tren Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate measures up....correct me if I'm wrong...I've been off the boards for the last couple yrs, but this compound was THE most sought after item back then....for old Negma Parabolan is legendary....I'm very curious if this even compares....keep up the good work, I admire your devotion to the cause....

Thanks for the support! No tests on that yet, but will be down the pipline I'm sure. The test fees on BD are starting to add up, and there are MANY other companies I want to test. So no guarantees it will be soon. But will get done at some point, I'm sure.

Don't give credence to the belief that Para is anything special. Esters are just esters. They only delay the release of the parent drug. It is good if you want to take a shot once per week, but otherwise, you'd never notice the difference between Tren HHBC and tren acetate.

 

[sorebuttcheeks]

i've had a word with the owner Bill , he's very concerned about not only the quality control of the finished products . but also the quality of the powder that they are buying . apparently they did a special deal with a factory in china to purchase a massive amount of powder at a very cheap price . it even mentions this deal on RC's website.