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mustang_5.0

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my girlfreind wants to lose some weight but everytime she uses a fat burner she loses it until she finishes the bottle. my question is is there some supplement you women take that can help her keep the weight off? thankd for your replies

stang5.0
 
......and the weight resistance training?

Cardio, though part of the equation is catabolic. What is she doing to build and maintain LBM?
 
Good job keeping our secrets safe Spatterson!

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Mustang, don't get pissed off, we are just funnin' with ya. Sometimes I PMS a bit when it seems that people want to know about the "magic supp".

Truth is, once you're dedicated to the iron and the diet the rest is just icing on the cake.

There is sooooooooooo much FREE INFO on this board, all you have to do is run a search, sit back and READ. ALL OF THE INFO IS ALREADY HERE.

And I can't speak for all, but some of us get a little bitchy when we hear "lots of cardio" and "supplement for weight loss" in the same post, let alone the same sentence. Forgive me. Just call me "Tongue-in-cheek Mom" :D
 
well i dont know what to tell her. like i said she does cardio along with weights. she has been doing all of this for about a year and a half. i will tell her to just stick with it. thanks for the replies. yall elite women are the best(i do mean that too!)

thanx,
stang5.0
 
Has she done an ECA stack?? Or maybe she could try some Xenadrine or Hydroxy cut which can help supress her appetite.....
 
OOPS....guess she has tried those. My eyes are open yet.....too early :)

Anyway, Hydroxy cut works for me.....maybe she should switch brands or so......or layoff of them for a few weeks, then restart. Maybe her body is used to what she is using, and she needs a short break.
 
Stang -

If she's been doing this for a while with no results, maybe time to change up a few things? For one, if she's been using thermogenics for the whole time, maybe time to take a break from them? They really should be cycled just like anything else you put in your body. 6 weeks or so - if using something w/ ma huang in it (traditional herbal ECA), then maybe switch to Adipokinetics for a while. Or just go off for 6 weeks or so. Could just use green tea extract for a little kick -- not thermogenic, but at least it wakes you up a little. Other things are those drinks like "Fat Shredder" (by American? I think) -- zero calorie, is non-ephedrine based with stuff like l-carnitine, etc.

Also may change the lifting & cardio routine a little. And you didnt' outline her diet, but the depressing (because everyone hates the diet) is that in reality about 60% of your success in fat loss will come from diet and not cardio/training. Maybe time to examine her food intake and see if it can't be cleaned up more or changed.

A change in general will shock the system alittle to stimulate metabolism. As tedious as all the above sounds, there really is no true "magic pill" - just good, clean, consistent diet & training. Usually takes about 3 weeks before seeing any results from a change, so it also takes a certain degree of patience....

Good luck.
Sassy
 
thanx alot sassy. i think one of her problems is like you said is DIET. she dont hardly eat. when she does it is not that much. thanks for all the help !

stang
 
Too much cardio + not enough food = MAJOR BIG CATABOLISM!!.....which results in loss of lean body mass which lowers metabolism - BAD, BAD, BAD.

She needs to pull back a bit on the cardio (I change up my cardio OFTEN as the body very quickly adjusts) and EAT GOOD FOOD. She will gain weight initially, but as Sassy said in a few weeks as she begins to regain and build mass she will see her body firming up and she will lose fat....not necessarily WEIGHT.
 
A good clean diet...a solid weight training program....and some cardio....she has to be CONSISTENT!!! Off and on dieting...training etc. will not do it! Also the less she eats....SLOWS metabolism way down...not doing her any good...only harming her body. 5-6 meals a day..no picking and consuming small bits of meals either...1-1.5 grams of protein per lb..keep food sources clean...4-6 oz of meat w/ each meal, lots of veggies, complex carbs, water, and shakes..bars...when in a hurry...dont let her become a cardio queen!!! YUK..will not tone her bod...she will become a skinny fat girl w/ little to no muscle and she will be unhappy w/ her results! TRAIN W/ weights...#1 priority!!!!!!!!!
 
Stang --

Wanted to reiterate the diet thing -- but especially for people who haven't gone into training & diet hardcore -- one does not produce results without the other. It may the first time if the person is going from being a couch queen to a cardio queen, but it probably won't be maintainable. So if she's doing all the stuff now, except diet, time to make it clear to her that its a lifestyle change and a lifestyle commitment on her part. I've been training for well over 15 years and the ONLY times I've ever gotten appreciable fat loss is when I combine it with diet. It is hard, but depending on how bad she wants the results, that's the commitment. This is a foreign concept to alot of people -- and even moreso to those who don't eat enough. Eat more and lose bf??? You bet! Good luck!
 
Eating six meals a day between 150 to 300 calories will help keep the weight away and you still get fuel if you eat the right things. Of course not going below 1200! (bare minimum) Also with fatburners I never bought a large bottle and learned to switch to different ones with different approaches to their ingreidients since they all have the same stuff! Otherwise I felt I built a tolerance. If she already does cardio and strength training and feels like she does enough as is I use ankle weights and wrist weights to intensify cardio without having to do more of it......and just to get the extra toning in! I also got a heart rate minitor to make sure I was in my "target" area and actually burning fat, that was a tip from another woman on a similar site and its been the best piece of advice I ever got...........even if it is an inconvience, so I am passing it on to you!
 
you can tell her this if it makes her feel any better or get her to change her views a bit..

almost every girl, including yours truly, has done the whole low fat high carb or low calorie (aka starving yourself) diet and TONS of cardio with the intention of losing weight (bf).

I used to do cardio, cardio and more cardio....and NOT eat that much, plus NOT EAT what I should've been eating.

If she can change her views a bit and slowly adopt a better all around regime (diet, exercise) that is conissitent she will do fine.

i won't repeat all the good stuff cause it's all up above in this post ..
 
thanks for all of you helping. i really appreciate it. yall women know what you are talking about and that is a good thing.
thanks again

stang
 
Even though I have not been on it long, Hydroxycut has helped to surpress my appetite. It gives me huge energy and when i do eat a meal, I find I am eating smaller portions. Hope this helps her out alittle.
 
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