Question on HCG and PCT

[earthling]

Hi everyone,
I'm about to start my first cycle as follows:

Stats
Age: 30
Height: 5'10
Weight: 230lbs @ 16~18% BF
Training experience: Well over 10 years
Blood work: Precycle done. Planned another one half way through, and around two weeks after PCT
cycle experience: Ran var only a couple of times. It was stupid but had no impact (blood work confirmed it)

cycle
- Test P 100mg EOD W1-8 (and possibly extend to W10 if everything goes alright)
- HCG 250ius twice a week W1-8 (Same day as Test)
- Anavar 60mg ED W3-8 (and possibly extend to W10 if everything goes alright)
- Arimidex 0.5mg EOD W1-8

PCT
- Starts 3 days after last Test P shot
- Clomid 100/50/50/50
- nolva 40/40/20/20


The reason why I'm running Test P is to have a shorter ester and be able to control things if they go wrong. I know pinning EOD will be a pain that I'll have to endure

Now I welcome any critique on the PCT. I also wonder about libido during PCT and how fast is it going to recover (in case a situations calls for it, whats your tip on getting that wood up?)

Now my last questions on HCG
I have found HCG 5000 iu and in order to get the 250 iu a shot, I'll have to mix it with 5ml bacteriostatic water, where 0.25cc will be equivalent to that 250 iu (I will use insulin syringe to accurately measure the 0.25)
- What I have found in my market as water for injection is called pyrogen free water for injection. Is this similar to the bacteriostatic water?
- After extracting the 0.25 with an insulin syringe, is it possible to inject it in the Test-P syringe and mix them together to avoid excess pinning? or do you advise that I pin HCG separately?

Thanks!

 

[schwartzy]

No you can't mix HCG and Test because HCG is to be injected subcutaneously and Test is injected intramuscularly.

 

[Hulksmash4]

HCG is sub q. So with that same insulin syringe, sub q inject it. My question is this being your 1st cycle, why take HCG? Maybe as a PCT, but with that low of test P injections per week, I'd save it.

 

[Hulksmash4]

With that low of test, I'd save the arimidex, too.

 

[earthling]

Hi everyone,
once again another question on HCG . Does it make any difference to inject 250 iu twice a week, or 500 iu every 5 days?

 

[earthling]

Bump.

I was wondering if there are any benefits of taking it twice a week, or just once will do, and if 500 at a time will be too much that might desensitize the leydig cells.

The reason why I thought of 500 iu every 5 days is because I can't seem to find bac water at all, nor benzyl alcohol to make my own. My best bet is to use the solvent that comes with it, which is 1mL containing 0.9% sodium chloride. I was thinking of mixing this, and preload slin syringes and freeze to keep it bacteria free. (I read few reports that mentioned freezing doesn't make HCG lose its potency).

The other alternative I'm thinking of is to add 1mL of pyrogen free water to the solvent. Now I'll have 5000 iu in 2mL, then load the slin syringes (where each contains 250 iu) and freeze them. This should still protect the HCG from bacteria, no?

 

[injfuel]

Bump.

I was wondering if there are any benefits of taking it twice a week, or just once will do, and if 500 at a time will be too much that might desensitize the leydig cells.

The reason why I thought of 500 iu every 5 days is because I can't seem to find bac water at all, nor benzyl alcohol to make my own. My best bet is to use the solvent that comes with it, which is 1mL containing 0.9% sodium chloride. I was thinking of mixing this, and preload slin syringes and freeze to keep it bacteria free. (I read few reports that mentioned freezing doesn't make HCG lose its potency).

The other alternative I'm thinking of is to add 1mL of pyrogen free water to the solvent. Now I'll have 5000 iu in 2mL, then load the slin syringes (where each contains 250 iu) and freeze them. This should still protect the HCG from bacteria, no?

Your making it way too complicated , treat the hcg just like a peptide , so you have 1ml of water mixed gives you 5000iu in 1ml of water . 1ml of water is 100 units on a 1ml insulin syringe . So every tick mark would be 50iu . You want 250iu , you draw up 5 tick marks full of solution and inject . 500iu would be 10 tick marks , you understand ? And the guys that posted earlier have no idea what they're talking about you can inject hcg sub-q or intramuscular , doesn't matter , I'm currently on a bridge between cycles injecting 1000iu EOD , also the pct is fine but understand that the hcg is a chemical that "makes" your testicles work , it's not your body functioning on it's own , keeping them working is all fine and dandy but once you drop the prop and hcg they will have to restart on their own . The clomid and Nolva will help but typically takes 8-12 weeks to have a decent recovery where they are working efficiently enough to not have side effects like loss of libido , loss of energy , lethargy . Tread carefully as I would rather save the hcg and run it your last 2 weeks of cycle and 4 weeks post cycle with the Nolva as the hcg can cause estrogen spike , run the Nolva for 2 weeks after the hcg at 20mg a day and you should have a good jump start on recovery .