Question on chest

[tgw85]

I'm a 19 year old college student who loves bodybuilding. I'm looking for an answer to a bodybuilding question.

I've seen pictures of Arnold Schwarzenegger around age 20, and in some pictures the very bottom of his chest looks thicker then compared to some pictures of him in his prime years, age 27,28, almost as if while his chest overall got bigger and longer, the very bottom portion of his chest grew as well, but in such a way that it got thinner at the same time? Idk, Serge Nubret's kinda looks that way too sometimes, and Ronnie.

Basically my question is once the chest grows to the point, I guess where it starts to "hang" a little bit or any point. Then as the chest overall continues to grow, the very bottom part of the chest, as it grows too, doesn't get thinner does it?

It just bothers me because I guess I think this is true now, and now I have this fear and negative mental perception and attitude of how my chest would look if I continued to work on it. I know I'm talking about the extreme but still, my perception of a "huge" well developed chest is not one where the bottom is thin. So it's started taking a toll on my whole attitude about working out and quite honestly... everyting. Please help, thanks.

Here's some pics to help explain:

 

[tgw85]

Doesn't Anybody have an anwser?

 

[imafuturebodybuilder]

I think you got the illusion that his chest was getting thinner at the bottom, in fact it only got bigger at the top thus making you think that the size decreased at the bottom.

 

[tgw85]

Thanks imafuturebodybuilder, that's what I think too, or maybe body fat, angle, lighting, idk. I'm just pessimistic I guess, and I'm just scared basically that if I keep working my chest the bottom will get thicker at first along with the rest, but then get thinner, even though I'll continue to be working out, But we're on the same page as far as what my question is.

 

[BigCbear]

yeah to be honest man i think its the lighting of some of those pics.. with out a doubt arnold had one of the best chest's of all time in my opinon....

one thing for sure man if you keep lifting and eating right you will get results... then you can tweak them results to what you think needs to be more developed by switching up your workouts

 

[tgw85]

I'm sorry, I just want to make sure everyone understands my question.

I'm wondering, AS the lower fibers grow and hypertrophy, the lower chest doesn't ever get thinner, or "rest/sit on the body" in such a way as to start looking thinner, does it???

 

[the.gladiator1987]

no it does not

 

[kx250rider]

There are a lot of factors here... As I got older (now 43), I have a crease under my pecs which is due to skin not being 18 anymore. My pecs are always a weak spot for me, so I have to work them more than anything else. Also, gynecomastia sets in normally in men 35+ ; give or take 10 years. If on any kind of anabolics, that can happen much earlier. That will give pecs the hanging, dreaded "man boob" appearance. So will body fat, but probably not an issue if you're 19 and not fat overall. Also, as your body fat decreases from the abdomen, you begin to see the underside of the pecs more when relaxed. That too, will make them look like they're cantilevered out from the body, even if totally square and flat. That's a good thing for an advanced bodybuilder, imho. (I never got there)

Charles

 

[tgw85]

There are a lot of factors here... As I got older (now 43), I have a crease under my pecs which is due to skin not being 18 anymore. My pecs are always a weak spot for me, so I have to work them more than anything else. Also, gynecomastia sets in normally in men 35+ ; give or take 10 years. If on any kind of anabolics, that can happen much earlier. That will give pecs the hanging, dreaded "man boob" appearance. So will body fat, but probably not an issue if you're 19 and not fat overall. Also, as your body fat decreases from the abdomen, you begin to see the underside of the pecs more when relaxed. That too, will make them look like they're cantilevered out from the body, even if totally square and flat. That's a good thing for an advanced bodybuilder, imho. (I never got there)

Charles

Thanks, for answering, I'm not really sure what you're talking about, but I'm sure there's a few ppl who don't know what I'm talking about.

I know ANY muscle on ANY body will grow if exercised, I know it didn't atrophy, but am concerned on whether after any point the thickness of the lower pecs, as it's growing, ever starts to APPEAR, based on how they sit on the body, as thinner and continue to get thinner? That's MY question. I know it GREW bigger, but will it continue to LOOK bigger!?

gladiator knows what I mean, so thanks gladiatior, and everyone else who is trying to help me.

 

[SouthernLord]

How much do you bench?

Why are you worrying about your chest getting too big? Seriously? What are your current stats?

 

[tgw85]

How much do you bench?

Why are you worrying about your chest getting too big? Seriously? What are your current stats?

Who cares how much I bench, all I'm wondering, is shouldn't the muscle itself stay upright and firm, for the most part, and continue to get thicker as it grows? Or after any point, would the lower part start to "appear" thinner than before, just b/c on how it lays on the body? Even though it was still technically getting bigger, and growing, would the lower fibers ever start to "hang down" on the body in a way as to appear thinner than before when overall the chest was actually smaller. Get it? Like as the lower part gets big shouldn't always continue to "LOOK" big and thick?

 

[SPEKTOR-AAA]

Im honestly lost but Im gonna throw my .02 in here, haha. What I can say is....if you build a good chest upper and lower and its solid great. I dont see how that will change nomatter how much bigger/smaller they get as long as they are being worked. Now in the event you stop working the muscles and you previously had a built chest that where your problems can and will arise. Muscle may begin to sag over time, loose its fullness/size.

I really wish i knew what you meant by "thinner"

 

[SouthernLord]

Who cares how much I bench, all I'm wondering, is shouldn't the muscle itself stay upright and firm, for the most part, and continue to get thicker as it grows? Or after any point, would the lower part start to "appear" thinner than before, just b/c on how it lays on the body? Even though it was still technically getting bigger, and growing, would the lower fibers ever start to "hang down" on the body in a way as to appear thinner than before when overall the chest was actually smaller. Get it? Like as the lower part gets big shouldn't always continue to "LOOK" big and thick?

I care.

If you're on here with a 225 bench max worrying about your chest getting too developed I'm gonna call you on it.

 

[SouthernLord]

Bro. Seriously. Just continue to train your chest. Train your chest and back equally.

Do not stress on your chest getting "too big" and "hanging". You will likely never have this problem. Most old guys who spent a lot of time lifting weights in their youth have perfectly normal looking chests. Now, if you let yourself get fat that's another story.

 

[tgw85]

Since you guys are trying to help me, thanks btw, I'm gonna try to explain this better:

When the pec gets so much mass its starts to slightly hang just a little bit b/c of gravity.

What I'm concerned about is this: b/c gravity has more affect on things closer to the ground, would it pull more on the very bottom lower fibers than the ones above, then (even though as the whole muscle grows and all the fibers grow bigger), would, b/c gravity pulled more on the very bottom ones, give the APPEARANCE that the bottom got thinner? Even though all the fibers techinally grew bigger, would the bottom ones, ever start to hang down more, b/c gravity, than the ones above it, thus giving the appearance that the bottom got thinner. That's what I mean, I'm not stupid, I am just having trouble properly conveying my question. I know the fibers didn't "grow thinner" or "shrink" as they grew. They grow bigger as you work them, but am wondering if, as they grow bigger and thicker, would continue to LOOK like they grew, an APPEAR as getting bigger and thicker. Arnold was just an observatory example I was using. This isn't genetics, I don't think, it's just as the fibers grow would not they, for the most part, stay upright and firm and as they grow bigger continue to look like they grew bigger and thicker? Basically, again just for ex) was Arnold's very lower chest, if you were to look at him straight ahead, was it the most thick it's ever been, OR was there any previous point when his very bottom chest actually appeared thicker? That's all this is...

 

[the.gladiator1987]

No your chest will not appear thinner. I dont think gravity has anything to do with making the chest hang, because its closer to the ground? then if that was the case we would all have droopy ass calves...

 

[tgw85]

I'm sorry but I still don't think I'm getting my question across right. This is what I mean:

Branch's chest has grown so big it overlaps/hangs down past the attachment. As it grows more the chest will hang down further, like it already has, just b/c the weight of the muscle, just like the bigger a woman's breast is the further down it hangs on the body.

My question is: as his chest grew and AS IT DROPPED DOWN FURTHER would the depth/thickness of the bottom get thinner?

 

[OMEGA]

I like this guy

 

[ExtraMile]

Is this guy even serious?

 

[OMEGA]

its the complexity I like and effort he put in

 

[tgw85]

Look, I'm sorry for asking something that sounds stupid or 'troll like' but it's not meant to upset anyone or do anything. This is an odd question and it's REALLY hard to phrase it simply.

People like Branch chest's have grows soo big it basically hangs past the attchment or 'overlapps' past the orgin. AS it grows even more it will 'hang/drop/overlap' even lower, when relaxed. If someone like Branch was just standing straight and relaxed, and as his chest grew and AS THE BOTTOM DROPPED EVEN LOWER would the bottom get thinner/lose depth/thickness?

 

[the.gladiator1987]

Look, I'm sorry for asking something that sounds stupid or 'troll like' but it's not meant to upset anyone or do anything. This is an odd question and it's REALLY hard to phrase it simply.

People like Branch chest's have grows soo big it basically hangs past the attchment or 'overlapps' past the orgin. AS it grows even more it will 'hang/drop/overlap' even lower, when relaxed. If someone like Branch was just standing straight and relaxed, and as his chest grew and AS THE BOTTOM DROPPED EVEN LOWER would the bottom get thinner/lose depth/thickness?

i get what ur saying. Youre asking if the bottom gets thinner because the bottom part would be more of the muscle hanging, rather than solid muscle.

I think it would never get to the point where it loses thickness though or gets thinner. Because you will still be building muscle ya know?

jus my .02

 

[tgw85]

i get what ur saying. Youre asking if the bottom gets thinner because the bottom part would be more of the muscle hanging, rather than solid muscle.

I think it would never get to the point where it loses thickness though or gets thinner. Because you will still be building muscle ya know?

jus my .02

Yes that's what I mean. As it grows more and more and as the bottom falls more and more does the bottom get thinner.

Um... the only way I can think of why or how it could be is, even as the muscle grows, gravity would pull more on the very lowest point of the muscle then the fibers above it, b/c the very bottom's closer to ground. This would cause the appearance of the bottom as a whole to become thinner, as it dropped down lower, than a previous point in development. Now I've been told the difference in strength of 'pull' b/t the very bottom and half an inch above is virtually nonexistent, but idk I'd just like to be sure for some odd reason....It kinda 'taint's' the whole point for me... put in all those years of hard work and passion only to have the bottom become thinner as it dropped down lower, then before. How do train hard and with passion with that thought swirling around in your head: that what you're doing would eventually lead to a droopy paper thin bottom?

 

[the.gladiator1987]

I think that gravity would not have an effect on the muscle bro