Question for the mods???

[needsize]

Is there not any way to keep the topics on the anabolic board strictly related to anabolics. I just scrolled down this page and I doubt half the questions/posts on here have anything to do with gear (other than retarded questions like "what kind of gear do you think (insert movie star's name here) takes). This seems to be the worst it has ever been. I honestly dont ask my questions about anabolics on elite any more, I go to other boards where my serious question wont get bumped off the page in seconds by this useless crap!!

The thing that sucks the most is that I payed cash to be a platinum member too, $130 canadian I believe, to have this happen to anything serious that I post. And asking questions in the platinum forum is a joke that I wont even touch!

Is the solution more mods, as I know you guys have lives, or should the policies be more strictly enforced. Otherwise, the gradual progression I've been watching of knowlegeable vets leaving due to this and being replaced by kids asking the same, non AAS related questions, will continue.

And yes, I am aware of the irony of having just done what I'm complaining about

 

[FatChops]

It's about time someone said that shit.....I pay too and all I read is dumb ass posts about what other people are on. Needsize...great post bro.....I agree with you 100%. Karma coming at ya.

Chops

 

[THE BOUNCER]

Otherwise, the gradual progression I've been watching of knowlegeable vets leaving due to this and being replaced by kids asking the same, non AAS related questions, will continue.

could not have said it better myself. i remember when all the knowledgeably bro's like, kodak, slopian, THE RANGER, etc. all used to post here. nowadays most of the members here have never even heard of those guys.

 

[needsize]

Those guys and others are the reason I came here, and I've watched them all disappear one by one. There are a few left that know their shit, but how long will they last. The odd times my questions actually get answered it's by a kid that read some shit once, so now he's an expert (but has just started his first cycle).

 

[Zyglamail]

As I said in an earlier thread, sometimes its like shoveling water around here. You delete one post because its off topic and 2 pop up wondering why it was deleted, stating their right to free speah...blah blah blah. Sometimes it causes MUCH less traffic just leaving the posts. If you want the posts to go away it will take a group effort and off topic posts should simply be ignored. Off topic stuff gets posted here because people know they will get a response. The most effctive way of eliminating them and not having to deal with the stup "why was my post deleted/moved" threads is to simply ignore them. When people see they dont get a response to off topic posts they will stop posting them.

 

[The Terminator]

Is the solution more mods, as I know you guys have lives, or should the policies be more strictly enforced. Otherwise, the gradual progression I've been watching of knowlegeable vets leaving due to this and being replaced by kids asking the same, non AAS related questions, will continue.

This is a solution I have seen brought up a few times in the last few months but it never seems to get taken seriously. realistically we have many mods who rarely visit so for the integrity of the board to reamin intact the admin need to look closely at not only how much the mods know and contribute, but also how much time they regularly put in as well. An overhaul in this area should really be considered. Don't get me wrong the mods who are here are usually nothing but great, but there are some who are spending virtually no time here anymore.....BTW can any mod (form C&C even) delete source posts or otherwise idiotic posts.

 

[THE BOUNCER]

As I said in an earlier thread, sometimes its like shoveling water around here. You delete one post because its off topic and 2 pop up wondering why it was deleted, stating their right to free speah...blah blah blah. Sometimes it causes MUCH less traffic just leaving the posts. If you want the posts to go away it will take a group effort and off topic posts should simply be ignored. Off topic stuff gets posted here because people know they will get a response. The most effctive way of eliminating them and not having to deal with the stup "why was my post deleted/moved" threads is to simply ignore them. When people see they dont get a response to off topic posts they will stop posting them.

do you really think that all the idiots on this board will not respond to the dumb post?

 

[Zyglamail]

do you really think that all the idiots on this board will not respond to the dumb post?

So what you guys are saying is that if we delete(or move) the nonesense you wont have a problem with everyone asking why there thread was moved/deleted?

Personally I dont have a problem with trying to keep a tighter rein on things but it always seems that no matter what we do we always have people complaining.

 

[THE BOUNCER]

Re: Re: Question for the mods???

This is a solution I have seen brought up a few times in the last few months but it never seems to get taken seriously. realistically we have many mods who rarely visit so for the integrity of the board to reamin intact the admin need to look closely at not only how much the mods know and contribute, but also how much time they regularly put in as well. An overhaul in this area should really be considered. Don't get me wrong the mods who are here are usually nothing but great, but there are some who are spending virtually no time here anymore.....BTW can any mod (form C&C even) delete source posts or otherwise idiotic posts.

i agree, there are some mods that have not posted in over a year!! George really needs to come on this board more often and see whats really going on. i remember when he used to post almost everyday!! now it's hard to get him to respond to your emails!

 

[needsize]

Zyg, you are one of the few mods that does actually spend regular time on this board, so unless George brings in new mods, the bulk of this would fall on you and a small group of other mods that actually spend time here. That's not really fair to you guys though, so I think the number of active mods really should be increased.
As for those jackasses posting about why was their thread removed, we could always use the karma system for that. Right now it's only used by the post whores on the chat board

 

[Zyglamail]

Well, what George decides to do about adding mods etc is out of my hands, so here is what I propose. I will start to be a bit more restrictive in what I let slide and I would like the rest of you who would like to see this place rise to its former glory to start giving out negative karma for off topic posts. Hopefully with our combined effort we can slowly turn the topic of conversation largely back to what this forum is for.

 

[THE BOUNCER]

So what you guys are saying is that if we delete(or move) the nonesense you wont have a problem with everyone asking why there thread was moved/deleted?

Personally I dont have a problem with trying to keep a tighter rein on things but it always seems that no matter what we do we always have people complaining.

no, what i am saying is, you, Quad and a few others seem to be the only mods that really give a damn. it just dosen't seem like George really cares anymore.

 

[needsize]

Well, what George decides to do about adding mods etc is out of my hands, so here is what I propose. I will start to be a bit more restrictive in what I let slide and I would like the rest of you who would like to see this place rise to its former glory to start giving out negative karma for off topic posts. Hopefully with our combined effort we can slowly turn the topic of conversation largely back to what this forum is for.

Sounds good to me, if karma isnt enough I dont mind taking the issues to pm's as well, people really need to get the message

 

[Zyglamail]

no, what i am saying is, you, Quad and a few others seem to be the only mods that really give a damn. it just dosen't seem like George really cares anymore.

I honestly dont know all of what consumes Georges time, but I do know that there has been a lot of legal issues which George has had to attend to. This I feel has probably given many of us the false impression he doesnt care but I for one beleive nothing could be further from the truth. Hopefully things will start to settle down and get back to being the best fitness site on the net.

 

[The Terminator]

no, what i am saying is, you, Quad and a few others seem to be the only mods that really give a damn. it just dosen't seem like George really cares anymore.

I know even when I go up and look at the list of mods I have to ask myself "who are some of these people?, I never see them on here"

 

[Spectre]

Thank-you Needsize.

 

[Thaibox]

I know even when I go up and look at the list of mods I have to

That's because, like NS said, they were the old timers that left and started up new sites that have more control and less bullshit. I've been around since the cool days of E2 and 2 thick battling it out, and good, knowledgable bros like Kodiak, Ranger, Jay and many others shared their knowledge. Most of the arguments back then were well articulated, supported, and very educational for all those reading.

In my opinion, the board needs to be more strict. If someone source posts...ban their ass. No warning. If someone discusses recreational drugs, give them a warning, then ban their ass. We are here to discuss a highly sensitive subject, which in itself warrants a strict atmosphere.

Needsize has touched on a very important point. Unfortunately, its been brought up several times before with ZERO results. The problem is, this important post will drown amongst the bullshit posts just like all the other good posts and be forgotten before anything can be done. In a couple days it will be below a hundred posts asking about the same damn redundant crap that fill the boards every day.

The mods should be given more authority and discretion to get rid of the crap around here. If people bitch about it, fuck 'em. Being that most discussions are on the use of controlled substances, the first amendment doesnt apply here.

Anyway, I hope this thread gets through NS, and I'll bump it when I can.

 

[THE BOUNCER]

That's because, like NS said, they were the old timers that left and started up new sites that have more control and less bullshit. I've been around since the cool days of E2 and 2 thick battling it out, and good, knowledgable bros like Kodiak, Ranger, Jay and many others shared their knowledge. Most of the arguments back then were well articulated, supported, and very educational for all those reading.

In my opinion, the board needs to be more strict. If someone source posts...ban their ass. No warning. If someone discusses recreational drugs, give them a warning, then ban their ass. We are here to discuss a highly sensitive subject, which in itself warrants a strict atmosphere.

Needsize has touched on a very important point. Unfortunately, its been brought up several times before with ZERO results. The problem is, this important post will drown amongst the bullshit posts just like all the other good posts and be forgotten before anything can be done. In a couple days it will be below a hundred posts asking about the same damn redundant crap that fill the boards every day.

The mods should be given more authority and discretion to get rid of the crap around here. If people bitch about it, fuck 'em. Being that most discussions are on the use of controlled substances, the first amendment doesnt apply here.

Anyway, I hope this thread gets through NS, and I'll bump it when I can.

great post!

 

[Golden_Muscle]

I agree, I made a post somewhat like your before because I couldnt take it either. These people thing the backstreet boys are fuckin big? WTF is that? I thing everyone should ignore these posts so they just simply get bumped off the pages.


EVERYONE! STOP REPLYING TO USELESS THREADS EVEN THOUGH IT GIVES YOU KARMA, ITS MAKING THE BOARD LESS THAN WHAT IT SHOULD BE!!!!!!!!! THESE STUPID PEOPLE WILL GET THE PICTURE AND THEY WILL STOP DOING IT!!!!!!

 

[Golden_Muscle]

Also, if your not educated about steroids and you have never taken steroids dont post threads on this board! Use the search or do some research elsewhere.

 

[RussianBro]

You delete one post because its off topic and 2 pop up wondering why it was deleted, stating their right to free speah...blah blah blah.

In this sentence Zyg is replying to my reply on post that was started by DaMan (triple threat) and was deleted.
Right for free speach is BS. Nobody ever mentioned that. Unless you are referring to someone's else response.
Even though I support this board (yeas, Zyg, I do), I find it entertaining to log on and find that posts that have to do with supplements get DELETED, not MOVED as others do.
At the other hand I find amusing to see numerous posts that have NOTHING to do with AAS ("Fat man files law suite," blah, blah, blah).
I think you have to define your policy first how those posts are managed (deleted or moved), then you fairly delet them or move.
Anyhow, Zyg, just for clarification... I am NOT mad at that post being deleted. There is something more important going on than that deleted post.
take care, bro...

 

[needsize]

RussianBro, I dont think Zyg was referring to you in particular. I've seen a ton of threads by guys complaining that their perfectly good threads were moved or deleted. I understand that the anabolic forum gets more traffic than the others, so guys want to post stuff here. But at the same time, Elite has more forums on more topics that any other board I've been to, so there is a place for those non AAS related topics.

 

[Victorian guy]

DAMN BLOODY RIGHT!!!

This board should ONLY be about anabolics...yes, brothers, some of us can't get enough of the same questions about dbol, etc, or another 'what is the longest you stayed on' threads and get really upset over something like a steroid-related but not exactly serious thread.

Now...stay tuned for my upcoming thread "Amazing transformation".....strictly anabolics related, and 100 PERCENT factual!

 

[Zyglamail]

In this sentence Zyg is replying to my reply on post that was started by DaMan (triple threat) and was deleted.
Right for free speach is BS. Nobody ever mentioned that. Unless you are referring to someone's else response.
Even though I support this board (yeas, Zyg, I do), I find it entertaining to log on and find that posts that have to do with supplements get DELETED, not MOVED as others do.
At the other hand I find amusing to see numerous posts that have NOTHING to do with AAS ("Fat man files law suite," blah, blah, blah).
I think you have to define your policy first how those posts are managed (deleted or moved), then you fairly delet them or move.
Anyhow, Zyg, just for clarification... I am NOT mad at that post being deleted. There is something more important going on than that deleted post.
take care, bro...

I wasnt referring specifically to you and as Needsize pointed out it happens all the time. In your case though your post should have been on the suppliment board NOT the AAS board and I think everyone will agree.

As for the thread you bring up however, there are things involved that you have no knowledge of and as the TOS of this site states George and/or his representatives can basically do as we see fit with any post. Even if you dont have any respect for me, you should at least have respect for all the solid bro's that come here and share their knowledge. This respect is done by keeping things on topic and NOT cluttering the board with questions as to why a mod decided to do what they did with a post. If you have a question regarding why something was moved, please have the decency and respect for the other board members to send PM's.

 

[RussianBro]

Even if you dont have any respect for me, you should at least have respect for all the solid bro's that come here and share their knowledge.

Zyg, I respect a LOT of bros on this board, including YOU. YOU haven't done anything to offend me or piss me off. I wouldn't have supported this board if that wouldn't have been the fact.
You may find it funny, but when you don't care about particular people, you sipmly ignore them. When you care about someone, you tell them that something bothers you. That's my logic I've been taught sence little.
In regards of PMs. I guess that is why I PMed you first to find out what happened.

Any situation like this (little crisis) is always a good thing. Cause any of us can make new changes that will help us improve existing systems of order...

Anyhow, Zyg. FYI... You are not on my black list...

 

[extysog]

agree with needlesize and just about the only mod i see lately is Zyg, karma to both, not that zyg needs it. BUT deleting threads equals less activity, less activity looks like a dead board. Who visits a dead board....NO ONE, which means no one reads the pop ups every 5 seconds and no one buys the latest greatest book / article on worthless information....get the picture. but i'm not one to complain i just don't read the shit.......

my 2 cents...

 

[kronk]

I will start to be a bit more restrictive in what I let slide and I would like the rest of you who would like to see this place rise to its former glory to start giving out negative karma for off topic posts. Hopefully with our combined effort we can slowly turn the topic of conversation largely back to what this forum is for.

I agree and will go the same.

 

[King_of_Spades]

Great post needsize.

Needsize has touched on a very important point. Unfortunately, its been brought up several times before with ZERO results. The problem is, this important post will drown amongst the bullshit posts just like all the other good posts and be forgotten before anything can be done. In a couple days it will be below a hundred posts asking about the same damn redundant crap that fill the boards every day.

 

[Zyglamail]

As some of you may have noticed I have been trying to clean things up a bit. In doing so it has simply caused more useless threads asking why threads were moved. I was called disrespectfull for not notifying them why the off topic posts were moved. That in itself I find rather ironic since by posting off topic threads you in essence disrespect all the mods AND the other members of this forum yet these people still feel they deserve the respect of a PM explaining why the off topic post was removed. Am I the only one who can see the hypocrisy in that?

The end result is if a post is blatently off topic I will move it to the appropriate forum and leave a redirect. When a post is moved I was under the impression a PM was sent to the author, if thats not the case I appologize for my oversight. However, you can likely determine why it was moved and if moved to another forum its because it was off topic for the original forum it was in. When I delete a post I will usually notify the author why unless the post was so rediculous or a source post in which case the auther in my opinion doesnt deserve to be notified.

 

[THE BOUNCER]

As some of you may have noticed I have been trying to clean things up a bit. In doing so it has simply caused more useless threads asking why threads were moved. I was called disrespectfull for not notifying them why the off topic posts were moved. That in itself I find rather ironic since by posting off topic threads you in essence disrespect all the mods AND the other members of this forum yet these people still feel they deserve the respect of a PM explaining why the off topic post was removed. Am I the only one who can see the hypocrisy in that?

The end result is if a post is blatently off topic I will move it to the appropriate forum and leave a redirect. When a post is moved I was under the impression a PM was sent to the author, if thats not the case I appologize for my oversight. However, you can likely determine why it was moved and if moved to another forum its because it was off topic for the original forum it was in. When I delete a post I will usually notify the author why unless the post was so rediculous or a source post in which case the auther in my opinion doesnt deserve to be notified.

i agree with you 100%. i think johnboy maybe drunk or something as he usually dosen't do this type of thing.

 

[Zyglamail]

Thanks for the support Bouncer, sometimes the whole MOD thing just doesnt seem worth it because everything ya do you seem to have someone bitching at you. I will be offline from sunday till tuesday, should be a very much needed break from things.

 

[THE BOUNCER]

Thanks for the support Bouncer, sometimes the whole MOD thing just doesnt seem worth it because everything ya do you seem to have someone bitching at you. I will be offline from sunday till tuesday, should be a very much needed break from things.

ya bro, relax and enjoy your little vacation. i must say that you and Quad do a great job here, as for the rest well....

 

[needsize]

Thanks for the support Bouncer, sometimes the whole MOD thing just doesnt seem worth it because everything ya do you seem to have someone bitching at you. I will be offline from sunday till tuesday, should be a very much needed break from things.

I hear ya but I hope you realize that for every punk bitch that complains about what you do, there are 100's of us that really appreciate it!

 

[rm2738]

Actually, I know this is the "Anabolic Discussion Board," but at the bottom right below you click on the link to go to the boar it does say..... "A forum for anything related to bodybuilding." I do agree that some posts are BS and nonesense, but there are a lot of legit questions out there that fall under this category.

 

[POPANDOPALO71]

FOR RUSSIANBRO

Bratan prover' PM please !

 

[Nathan]

That's why I don't show up much anymore - instead I waste my time on other boards. IT's boring here now, sorry. Don't get me wrong, Il ike this melodrama but please, I'm tired of the same old shit and not learning anything new. I enjoy telling peeps about my experiences and mistakes but it's boring if I get NOTHING back. S'up Needsize?

 

[needsize]

I see a lot of moved threads tonight, great job mods...