Affy86 said:
Needtogetaas/Nathan I am about to start a cycle of the following And I could really use your help here.
Testmax 450mg per ml consisting of
200mg testosterone Enanthate
150mg testosterone Cypionate
100mg testosterone Propionate
and
Deca 300 per ml consisting of
300mg Nandrolone Undeconate
My friend tells me I am to take 1ml of test and 1 ml of deca on Monday and the same again on Friday. I do not want to settle with what he says as that would mean per week I am injecting myself with 900mg of test and 600mg of deca. Unless you say otherwise of course and think this is ok?
I have never used forums or anything like that before but the last few weeks I have been doing a lot of research before laying out the perfect plan to accommodate what I am about to do.
I am coming across too many different plans for the cycle itself and the PCT and after reading your posts I think you are the right person to speak to.
I am a 26 year old Male going on 27 this April. If you need anymore stats on myself please do ask and I will provide those.
So far I will be doing a 12 week cycle. I think I need to start HCG on the 3rd week of my cycle. I also think that on the 10th week I will need to stop the deca but continue the test for a further 2 weeks. A week after my last test injection I start to take 50mg of Chlomid twice a day for 30 days.
All I am asking for is if you think that is ok and if I have finally got it right? I am so confused and I just want to do some proper research before taking someone's word for it. The friend in question is looking really good compared to how he was about 2 months ago so I definitely want to do this cycle but properly with some sound advice from yourself please. It would be greatly appreciated.
It is based on one of your posts I have omitted Nolvadex from my PCT.
Thanks!
My friend I am glad you have been doing your research and have come to me for help. Your cycle is all wrong and has many flaws in it.
1. You should not run deca for a first cycle but if you learn how to do it right , and have some one to walk you through shit ( and do all they tell you) you will be fine. Its when you decide not to listen that you get your self into trouble.
2. Always run test past the deca 2-3 weeks( looks like you got this one though)
3. I do not advocate using clomid or nolva for pct and even less when a Progestrin is used during the cycle.
4. Your on cycle support and your pct is very week and is not even close to what you would need to recover from this cycle and have little sides.
1-12 For you I would take 1/2ml of your blend Monday and Thursday
1-10 Deca 300mg Once a week Wesnday is fine
1-10 N2guard full does every day spread out
1-12 Examastane/Aromasin 12.5mg every other day
4-8 hcg 500ius twice a week
8-12 hcgenerate 5 caps every day
12-16 phytoserm-347 1 cap am and pm
12-18 forma-stanzol 5 pumps am and pm (suicide aromatase inhibitor)
10-18 Cabralone/dostinex .5mg every 3 days
16-20 bridge 3 caps every day
You will want to run a ai like armasin during the cycle to prevent gyno . You will also want to have some letro on hand and also some dostinex/cabralone because deca can cause some problems like high progesterone and prolatin and dos/cab counteracts this. So run cab/dos in pct and have enough on hand to use during the cycle if needed.
You may also want to run N2guard during the entire cycle this lowers bloat by helping to drop of water what and protects every major organ in the body. It also has a androgen receptor up regulator, liver protection, and a Muti Vitamin in it . Then it also protects against high blood pressure and high cholesterol. Pretty much your all in one health support supplement for the steroid user and health is number 1 right? All you will need in
You need to run the forma-stanzol for pct after deca because this lowers estrogen and progesterone something nolva and or clomid will not do. It also has phytoserm that work like clomid and nolva. The other products for pct will get you back to normal in no time and save you from feeling like crap and losing your sex drive and motivation. I like to add Need2slin into pct after deca to help get back some of the nutrition retention lost after the cycle but this is also optional. IMO doing things the best way you can is the best option. What good is a cycle if it fuckes you all up or you lost all your guys.
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/calling-out-needtogetaas-733165.html
Hate on it if you want but forma-stanzol works for pct!!! <---- read the two above threads to learn about this for pct
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