Q&A With Needtogetaas

[Ifonly]

Ok estrogens and progestogens are important to mammary gland growth, however they do not create gyno in the absence of anterior pituitary hormones . So to be honest neither estrogen alone nor estrogen plus progesterone can sustain breast development without other factors being involved, like GH or IGF-1, as seen in studies when they have administration estrogen and GH to hypophysectomized and oophorectomized female rats, which in the end showed breast ductal development. The GH effects on ductal growth are made through stimulation of IGF-1. This is demonstrated by studies of estrogen and GH administration to IGF-1 knockout rats that showed significantly decreased mammary development when compared to age-matched IGF-1- intact controls. Combined estrogen and IGF-1 treatment in these IGF-1 knockout rats restored mammary growth. In addition, Walden et al. demonstrated that GH-stimulated production of IGF-1 mRNA in the mammary gland itself, suggesting that IGF-1 production in the stromal compartment of the mammary gland acts locally to grow breast. again other data indicates that estrogen promotes GH secretion and raises GH levels, stimulating the production of IGF-1, which works with with estrogen to induce ductal development.

Like estrogen, progesterone has minimal effects in breast development without concomitant anterior pituitary hormones; again indicating that progesterone interacts closely with pituitary hormones. Studies have also shown this to be factual.

Prolactin is another anterior pituitary hormone integral to breast development. Prolactin is not only secreted by the pituitary gland but may be produced in normal mammary tissue epithelial cells and breast tumors. Prolactin stimulates epithelial cell proliferation only in the presence of estrogen and enhances lobulo-alveolar differentiation only with concomitant progesterone.

Gynecomastia is extremely complicated and honestly I do not know every last thing there is to know about it. I know a lot and I am learning more every day. I can find the information and I can understand it. But the causes of it are vast and far reaching into many topics even outside of the use of steroids its still complicated.

In your case clomid 25mg every day and dostinex .5mg every other day should handle the problem my friend. Please remember to come back with your feed back and results. Because its always good for others to see things first hand. Even if they see my advice seeing it in action trumps all right.
be sure you are not using the forma higher than 5 pumps am and pm as well.

Ok. Sounds a plan. Ill get on that.
Could I use toremifene or some other serm. Because the emotional sides I have had with clomid (25mg/day) were unreal!!!! Real fucking bad. Dnt won't to experience that again.
Many thanks bud!

 

[needtogetaas]

My friends I am still doing Q&A and I will get to every question asked in this thread right now. However I am moving the thread over here..Sign up if you do not have an account and be sure to click the email we send you to activate the account. I would love to have you as a member of the N2BM Family... Come on bye.

http://needtobuildmuscle.net/forum/f29/steroid-q-needtogetaas-19811.html

 

[needtogetaas]

Ok. Sounds a plan. Ill get on that.
Could I use toremifene or some other serm. Because the emotional sides I have had with clomid (25mg/day) were unreal!!!! Real fucking bad. Dnt won't to experience that again.
Many thanks bud!

Yes you can use toremifene..

 

[needtogetaas]

Long day for me guys sorry I did not get to a lot of the questions here and still have a pile of pm's too. I had to talk to a lot of people on the phone today, lot of business meetings and so on so it was a hard day to try and get out here and help. Tomorrow I got one writing job I need to bang out quick and than I'll be here on the forums in full force. KILL THAT SHIT!!!!!!!


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[needtogetaas]

If you don't mind, I'd like to continue the line of questions about dosing/duration for the supps and ancillaries. There are plenty of threads here about the best length of cycles and how much of which AAS compounds to take, but the supps and ancillaries often get overlooked.

From what I understand:

Gear - Continuous
N2Slin - Continuous
Unleashed - Continuous
DAA - 8 weeks (last four of cycle through PCT)
N2Guard - All through most cycles
Post-Cycle - During PCT
HCGen - Varies dramatically depending on how/when being used

There are at least two others I am unsure about (will likely be more but these come to mind at the moment):

Forma - I've heard many say that this should only be used for a certain period of time and the directions on the bottle say to use for up to 10 weeks, but I saw a thread recently in which you said you use it for up to three months. How long can/should it be used an if used for extended time does it need any other supps to maintain its effectiveness?

Bridge - I have no experience with this product at all. From what I understand there are at least two uses for it: (1) to run after PCT until start of next cycle; or (2) to run double dosed as part of the 3 week mini-PCT Dylan recommends after a SARMs triple stack cycle. That the best/most effective uses for the product?

Lets keep it to one question at a time maybe two lol. And move it over here to this thread my friend.. Steroid Q&A with needtogetaas thanks.

 

[needtogetaas]

come over to this thread with your questions my friends

Steroid Q&A with needtogetaas

 

[needtogetaas]

Opening this back up for a bit. Thanks guys keep them coming.

 

[sssafa3]

hey bro how are you?
you remembered i talked to you about high blood pressure on cycle before?
well i bought my cycle of andriol and anavar as i told you and i did blood test before i start the cycle.
and again estradiol is high and also prolactin. i dont know why cause my last cycle was gh which i stopped it after short time due to the blood pressure issues. it was 6 months ago.i went to endo dr. and he told me to do again and didnt offer any drugs. i mention i take ritalin for short times but i dont take it a long time now.
here are my new blood test:
ESR 6.00 MM/HOUR ( 2.00- 20.00) (.*.......)

WBC 5.90 K/UL ( 4.00- 10.00) (..*......)

NEUTROPHILS 3.30 K/UL ( 1.80- 6.60) (..*......)

NEUTROPHILS % 56.20 % ( 46.00- 68.00) (...*.....)

LYMPHOCYTES 1.90 K/UL ( 1.10- 3.50) (..*......)

LYMPHOCYTES % 33.10 % ( 15.00- 45.00) (....*....)

MONOCYTES 0.50 K/UL ( 0.08- 0.90) (....*....)

MONOCYTES % 9.00 % ( 2.00- 9.00) (........*)

EOSINOPHILS 0.10 K/UL ( 0.00- 0.60) (.*.......)

EOSINOPHILS % 1.50 % ( 0.00- 6.00) (.*.......)

BASOPHILS 0.00 K/UL ( 0.00- 0.15)

BASOPHILS % 0.20 % ( 0.00- 1.50) (*........)

RBC 5.81 M/UL ( 4.30- 6.00) (.......*.)

HEMOGLOBIN 16.80 G/DL ( 13.50- 17.50) (......*..)

HEMATOCRIT 49.30 % ( 38.00- 50.00) (.......*.)

MCV 84.90 FL ( 80.00- 98.00) (.*.......)

MCH 29.00 PG ( 27.00- 33.00) (..*......)

MCHC 34.10 G/DL ( 32.00- 35.50) (....*....)

PLATELETS 261.00 K/UL ( 150.00- 400.00) (...*.....)

MPV 8.50 FL ( 6.50- 11.50) (...*.....)

RDW 12.90 % ( 11.00- 16.00) (..*......)

ESTRADIOL(E2) 258.55 PMOL/L ( 20.00- 250.00) (.........)*

(FOLLICULAR PHASE 70-900 PMOL/L

MID-cycle PHASE 140-1900 PMOL/L

LUTEAL PHASE 70-1000 PMOL/L

POSTMENOPAUSAL <150 PMOL/L

FSH 3.27 MIU/ML ( 1.20- 16.00) (*........)

FOLLICULAR PHASE 3.0-20 MIUML

MID-cycle 4.5-26 MIU/ML

LUTEAL PHASE 1.1-14 MIU/ML

POSTMENOPAUSAL 6-150 MIU/ML

LH 9.76 MIU/ML ( 1.10- 9.00) (.........)*

FOLLICULAR PHASE 2.0-11 MIU/ML

MID-cycle 12-105 MIU/ML

LUTEAL PHASE 0.9-13 MIU/ML

POSTMENOPAUSAL 10-65 MIU/ML

PROGESTERONE 2.61 NMOL/L ( 0.00- 1.00) (.........)*

FOLLICULAR PHASE 0-1.0 NMOL/L

LUTEAL PHASE 3.8-51 NMOL/L

POSTMENOPAUSAL 0-1.0 NMOL/L

PROLACTIN 745.46 M/UL ( 50.00- 380.00) (.........)*

FREE T4 18.77 PMOL/L ( 11.50- 22.70) (.....*...)

testosterone 29.37 NMOL/L ( 5.80- 30.40) (........*)

FREE T3 5.54 PMOL/L ( 3.50- 6.50) (.....*...)

TSH 5.35 UIU/ML ( 0.35- 5.50) (........*)

VITAMIN b12 719.00 PG/ML ( 211.00- 911.00) (......*..)

 

[needtogetaas]

Needtogetaas/Nathan I am about to start a cycle of the following And I could really use your help here.

Testmax 450mg per ml consisting of
200mg testosterone Enanthate
150mg testosterone Cypionate
100mg testosterone Propionate
and
Deca 300 per ml consisting of
300mg Nandrolone Undeconate

My friend tells me I am to take 1ml of test and 1 ml of deca on Monday and the same again on Friday. I do not want to settle with what he says as that would mean per week I am injecting myself with 900mg of test and 600mg of deca. Unless you say otherwise of course and think this is ok?

I have never used forums or anything like that before but the last few weeks I have been doing a lot of research before laying out the perfect plan to accommodate what I am about to do.

I am coming across too many different plans for the cycle itself and the PCT and after reading your posts I think you are the right person to speak to.

I am a 26 year old Male going on 27 this April. If you need anymore stats on myself please do ask and I will provide those.

So far I will be doing a 12 week cycle. I think I need to start HCG on the 3rd week of my cycle. I also think that on the 10th week I will need to stop the deca but continue the test for a further 2 weeks. A week after my last test injection I start to take 50mg of Chlomid twice a day for 30 days.

All I am asking for is if you think that is ok and if I have finally got it right? I am so confused and I just want to do some proper research before taking someone's word for it. The friend in question is looking really good compared to how he was about 2 months ago so I definitely want to do this cycle but properly with some sound advice from yourself please. It would be greatly appreciated.

It is based on one of your posts I have omitted Nolvadex from my PCT.

Thanks!

My friend I am glad you have been doing your research and have come to me for help. Your cycle is all wrong and has many flaws in it.

1. You should not run deca for a first cycle but if you learn how to do it right , and have some one to walk you through shit ( and do all they tell you) you will be fine. Its when you decide not to listen that you get your self into trouble.

2. Always run test past the deca 2-3 weeks( looks like you got this one though)

3. I do not advocate using clomid or nolva for pct and even less when a Progestrin is used during the cycle.

4. Your on cycle support and your pct is very week and is not even close to what you would need to recover from this cycle and have little sides.

1-12 For you I would take 1/2ml of your blend Monday and Thursday
1-10 Deca 300mg Once a week Wesnday is fine
1-10 N2guard full does every day spread out
1-12 Examastane/Aromasin 12.5mg every other day
4-8 hcg 500ius twice a week
8-12 hcgenerate 5 caps every day
12-16 phytoserm-347 1 cap am and pm
12-18 forma-stanzol 5 pumps am and pm (suicide aromatase inhibitor)
10-18 Cabralone/dostinex .5mg every 3 days
16-20 bridge 3 caps every day


You will want to run a ai like armasin during the cycle to prevent gyno . You will also want to have some letro on hand and also some dostinex/cabralone because deca can cause some problems like high progesterone and prolatin and dos/cab counteracts this. So run cab/dos in pct and have enough on hand to use during the cycle if needed.

You may also want to run N2guard during the entire cycle this lowers bloat by helping to drop of water what and protects every major organ in the body. It also has a androgen receptor up regulator, liver protection, and a Muti Vitamin in it . Then it also protects against high blood pressure and high cholesterol. Pretty much your all in one health support supplement for the steroid user and health is number 1 right? All you will need in

You need to run the forma-stanzol for pct after deca because this lowers estrogen and progesterone something nolva and or clomid will not do. It also has phytoserm that work like clomid and nolva. The other products for pct will get you back to normal in no time and save you from feeling like crap and losing your sex drive and motivation. I like to add Need2slin into pct after deca to help get back some of the nutrition retention lost after the cycle but this is also optional. IMO doing things the best way you can is the best option. What good is a cycle if it fuckes you all up or you lost all your guys. http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/calling-out-needtogetaas-733165.html
Hate on it if you want but forma-stanzol works for pct!!! <---- read the two above threads to learn about this for pct

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[Affy86]

Needtogetaas/Nathan,

You are a legend for helping me out thanks again. Hope you don't mind the next few questions.
1. What would you recommend if I said I am to take Deca out of my cycle and would I still achieve a good enough gain?
2. In regards to "Examastane/Aromasin" and "Cabralone/dostinex" does that mean one or the other or do you mean both or is that what they are called?
3. When would I know that the Letro I would have on hand would need to be utilised?
D. (I hate the number - bad luck) You mentioned need2slin when and how long would I take this for
5. The last question - I have a full time job working 40+ hours a week and I live in the UK. Would I be able to successfully fit all this in and would your suppliers links you mentioned deliver to the UK?

My friend as mentioned before I am a busy man but eager to get this goal. I am willing to follow a respected gent as yourself to ensure I achieve the best possible results but at the same time preventing any side effects along with being able to prevent any gain losses. I am willing to keep up my training and a good diet after this cycle or I am wasting my time and money. You are 100% right if your going to do something do it the best way you can!

Once again needtogetaas/Nathan all your help is greatly appreciated!