Pubertal gyno on cycle, Expert help needed!

[emat0]

Hey yo i have weird problem. I'm on test-E cycle, and im doing bloodworks every 6 weeks, first one was done after one month ant there they are.

Test 57,9 range 2,49 - 8,36
E2 18,77 range 7,63 - 42,6

Problem is that i have pubertal gynecomastia and im running 250 mg E4D of test, 12,5 mg aromasin ED, 10 mg tamoxifen ED, proviron for libido 25 mg ED. And well. without any changes in my cycle dosages i started to get weird felling in my nipple with gyno. It's not visible or anything but there is small lump inside from puberty, nipples looks fine

And what i fell is some kind of "Pressure" in my nipple, its not pain, it might be little sensitive i would say ? like im felling it a little when it rubs my t-shirt but its not pain, i just fell itt touching it a little and its discomfort overall.

So i decided to take another bloodwork but i can do it in 2 weeks from now and my question is what shall i Do till then.
Prolactin might be issue? I don't have cabaser becuase its test only cycle, i started mega dosing B6 and zinc and situation got a little better but still i got this discomfort. Anyone experienced might help me ?

 

[stevesmi]

how old were you when you first got gyno? how old are you now? is this your first cycle?

you should always get rid of the gyno first before using steroids, otherwise it will flare back up anyway. i would stop the test now and get on an anti-gyno stack to get things under control.. but it is hard to give great advice without some more info

 

[emat0]

i did not hand "Gynecomastia" medical case when its looking like cone, it was more like small lump which was only visible throughout mammograph and i had it since like 16 year old.
I'm on my parents insurance im 21 years old studying IT so i will get it operated in like 2 years from now. I don't want to stop testosterone because i fell like i reached my genetic limits and testosterone only cycle is safest thing i can run while having all protection on hand.

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ you didn't reach your genetic potential at 21 I assure you.

so you are just going to stay on test forever now? I'm not sure why you think it is the safest thing you can run.. this is WRONG. it will shut your HPTA down and the longer you stay on the harder it will be to ever recover. I hope you reconsider making a huge mistake and this gyno scares some sense into you.

also gyno surgery does not always cure the issue permanently.. there has been tons of guys who have had the surgery and the gyno came back. they have to get the gland removed entirely

 

[emat0]

pinning myself for the rest of my life is not that bad though, considering the fact how you fell ON. ofcourse i will come OFF but after age of 30/40 im staying ON forever for sure haha, that's my decision and no one's gonna die for me so no one gonna tell me how to live hah . Yeah i know how it works, surgery is quite expensive but the worst part of it is that you are unable to workout for like 2 weeks or more. That's why i want to take counter-measures untill i get a job

 

[Jay Scott]

Genetic potential at the age of 21, haha.

But its highly understandable why you want to juice. As for the gyno question, I wouldnt worry as its not visible and you can get that lump removed when the time comes.

 

[stevesmi]

pinning myself for the rest of my life is not that bad though, considering the fact how you fell ON. ofcourse i will come OFF but after age of 30/40 im staying ON forever for sure haha, that's my decision and no one's gonna die for me so no one gonna tell me how to live hah . Yeah i know how it works, surgery is quite expensive but the worst part of it is that you are unable to workout for like 2 weeks or more. That's why i want to take counter-measures untill i get a job

why would you want to pin the rest of your life when your body as a male already produces hormones naturally for free ?

at the very least cycle steroids on and off.. 10 weeks on, 20 weeks off.. at least this way your HPTA will have a chance at recovering

also don't have the attitude of "its my life, nobody tells me what to do" first off you came on here for advice, second you are getting advice from guys like me who have been in the game longer than you been alive. you should listen to the older crowds advice and use it as a tool, instead of having that poor attitude. when i was your age i ate up as much advice as i could from the older dudes, not all of it was right.. but i listened and i saved myself a lot of grief.

 

[muskate]

I am not here to judge but this what I personally recommend instead of staying on year round is:

[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]1. Run your cycle. [/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]2. After your cycle run a good pct protocol such as the perfect PCT: http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/[/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]3. After the PCT protocol, run a SARMS bridge - such as the SARMS triple stack: http://www.evolutionary.org/the-SARMS-triple-stack-protocol[/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]4. After the triple stack, run a mini PCT. 4 weeks of the following:[/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]clomid at 25mg/day[/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]nolvadex at 20mg/day[/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]HCGenerate ES at 5 capsules/day[/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]n2guard at 3 capsules/day[/FONT]
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]5. Then wait 3-4 weeks, ideally get blood work done to make sure everything is in the normal range and start your next cycle. [/FONT]
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[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]With doing 1-5 you will continue growing off cycle and your natural testosterone production won't be suppressed. It is a healthier route all around. [/FONT]

 

[Medic911]

Just a quick hijack, come someone inbox me the perfect PTC plan please?
Evo is blocked at work and I am offshore for 14 days.

 

[MasonicBodybuilder]

Just get rid of the gyno before going on again. Much easier to get rid of it first. If you cycle it will just get worse.