Pro's and Vets needed Last call !

[mono_1]

Sup

Stats
214 lbs
6'
bf 13.8%
age 32
hitting my groups almost twice a week (6 day's a week can't get enough of it)
workout times are 5 am and at lunch
food is clean 3200 to 4000 cal.
protein 270 to 320
in the gym for about 7 months or so working out for the past 10 years.

i can go into detail if needed i track my food intake and log my workouts
(tracking food for 3 weeks but have been eating like a horse 6 meals a day
just started loging my workouts to help me reach my goal)

my buddy was heavy into bb 10 year's strong he was 6'2 289 bf 10 %
the last 4 years he has been doing the ufc fighting now he is at 145 lbs not on gear anymore witch is cool he has a degree in sport nutrition

tried to do a cycle a few years ago but working out of town doing constuction smashed that 3rd week into it

1st real cycle

he sugested that i run this cycle seems heavy to me and long
sus 250 for 10 days straight (run out my 10 single 1amp)
day 5 start deca 200mg for 10 days straight (run out my 10 ml bottle)
wk 3 start test cyp 600 mg wk for 6 wks (run out my 20 ml bottle)
wk 9 empty
wk 10 winny m/w/f 50 mg for 6.5 wks (run out my 20ml bottle)
wk 10 deca m/w/f 200mg (run out my 10 ml bottle)

for pct i have Clomid Aifm Nolad

would realy like your guy's input thank you
Mono

 

[bilter]

Sup

Stats
214 lbs
6'
bf 13.8%
age 32
hitting my groups almost twice a week (6 day's a week can't get enough of it)
workout times are 5 am and at lunch
food is clean 3200 to 4000 cal.
protein 270 to 320
in the gym for about 7 months or so working out for the past 10 years.

i can go into detail if needed i track my food intake and log my workouts
(tracking food for 3 weeks but have been eating like a horse 6 meals a day
just started loging my workouts to help me reach my goal)

my buddy was heavy into bb 10 year's strong he was 6'2 289 bf 10 %
the last 4 years he has been doing the ufc fighting now he is at 145 lbs not on gear anymore witch is cool he has a degree in sport nutrition

tried to do a cycle a few years ago but working out of town doing constuction smashed that 3rd week into it

1st real cycle

he sugested that i run this cycle seems heavy to me and long
sus 250 for 10 days straight (run out my 10 single 1amp)
day 5 start deca 200mg for 10 days straight (run out my 10 ml bottle)
wk 3 start test cyp 600 mg wk for 6 wks (run out my 20 ml bottle)
wk 9 empty
wk 10 winny m/w/f 50 mg for 6.5 wks (run out my 20ml bottle)
wk 10 deca m/w/f 200mg (run out my 10 ml bottle)

for pct i have Clomid Aifm Nolad

would realy like your guy's input thank you
Mono

so let me get this right, he is saying to do 250mg PD of sus for 10 days (insane) followed (start at D5) deca 200mg PD for 10 days (insane) then test C 600PW?

That is fucked up!!
Is this your first cycle? If yes why not test C 500mg PW with proper PCT......simple and very effective.

 

[mono_1]

i've done a lot of reading and i want to make sure that i get the most out of my first cycle

thats why i'm asking

 

[Makavelli]

First off you say your cals are between 3200 and 4K? That's a difference of 800 cals a day! That's a lot. Better find out exactly where you are. Otherwise you won't know where to adjust.

Now onto the cycle. Without going over board that is one of the dumbest cycles I've seen in a long time. And I've seen a lot of them.

First cycles should be test and something like EQ or deca. Around 400-500 mgs each. They should be run from 10-16 weeks.

 

[Ulter]

I'm still trying to figure out how your friend went from 289 to 145 pounds.
He's giving you bad advice on how to cycle.
Just run 1000mg of test for 8 to 10 weeks. Use and AI, like AIFM, throughout the cycle and PCT.

 

[drrman]

I'm still trying to figure out how your friend went from 289 to 145 pounds.
He's giving you bad advice on how to cycle.
Just run 1000mg of test for 8 to 10 weeks. Use and AI, like AIFM, throughout the cycle and PCT.

NO SHIT, i was wondering the same damn thing. I see NO way a guy who was 289 could even be on the frame of a 145lb guy.

I think this guy is feeding you a line of shit bro, NO WAY he was 289 10 years ago...........i call those guys in the gym the "usedtobees".....they all "used to be" 250 and lean or the "used to" bench 500 etc.

no wah this guy lost 50% of his bodyweight........no way he was that large and lean.

 

[CO B-man]

NO SHIT, i was wondering the same damn thing. I see NO way a guy who was 289 could even be on the frame of a 145lb guy.

I think this guy is feeding you a line of shit bro, NO WAY he was 289 10 years ago...........i call those guys in the gym the "usedtobees".....they all "used to be" 250 and lean or the "used to" bench 500 etc.

no wah this guy lost 50% of his bodyweight........no way he was that large and lean.

Exactly what I was wondering. And how is that Nolad for PCT?

Personally this thread wreaks of a young kid that did very little research came into contact with a couple of vials and is trying to figure out how to use them

 

[neverenuf]

Exactly what I was wondering. And how is that Nolad for PCT?

Personally this thread wreaks of a young kid that did very little research came into contact with a couple of vials and is trying to figure out how to use them

me too! i couldnt comprehend anything after reading that...and i went from a fat ass 305 to 190 after 2 years, without being anorexic i could never hit 145lbs...

somethings fckd up

 

[mono_1]

i'm at work so i'm typing fast and his weight was 289 to 249 thanks for the flaming flaming jk
and it's nolvadex for during and or for pct

he did this cycle but from the reading i've done it seemed to be alot and long so thats why i'm asking
sorry for the spelling

And Ulter thanks for the info i've seen you post that guys don't use enough on their first cycles so i'm glad you posted.

 

[Makavelli]

NO SHIT, i was wondering the same damn thing. I see NO way a guy who was 289 could even be on the frame of a 145lb guy.

I think this guy is feeding you a line of shit bro, NO WAY he was 289 10 years ago...........i call those guys in the gym the "usedtobees".....they all "used to be" 250 and lean or the "used to" bench 500 etc.

no wah this guy lost 50% of his bodyweight........no way he was that large and lean.

Yeah I love those "usedtobees" too! I swear every old dude in my gym used to have a physique just like mine and was just as strong...

 

[bw1]

First off you say your cals are between 3200 and 4K? That's a difference of 800 cals a day! That's a lot. Better find out exactly where you are. Otherwise you won't know where to adjust.

Now onto the cycle. Without going over board that is one of the dumbest cycles I've seen in a long time. And I've seen a lot of them.
First cycles should be test and something like EQ or deca. Around 400-500 mgs each. They should be run from 10-16 weeks.

Man! I don't even know how they came up with that.

 

[drrman]

Yeah I love those "usedtobees" too! I swear every old dude in my gym used to have a physique just like mine and was just as strong...

Isn't it the truth though....i hear it everywhere i go, co workers, even some family member....."man back in the day i used to be a hoss" all that shit....lol


anyways to the guy who started the post,

Ulter gave you some sound advice bro

 

[PeterPelco]

I'm still trying to figure out how your friend went from 289 to 145 pounds.
He's giving you bad advice on how to cycle.
Just run 1000mg of test for 8 to 10 weeks. Use and AI, like AIFM, throughout the cycle and PCT.

Agreed!

 

[mono_1]

Ulter looks like everyone agrees with you sounds good i don't want to spend anymore $$
i have 20 ml of cyp 200mg
and 10ml of sus 250
could i run sus 250 infront of the cyp to get the 10 wk cycle
wk 1 and 2 sus 250 m/thur
wk 3 start cyp at 600 mg till gone runs out about wk 9

and save 20 ml of deca
20 ml winny for a later cycle

 

[drrman]

You only have 5500mg test total bro, so most you can run is 550mg/week if you are going to run it 10 weeks.

i thought you were going with ulters advice and running 1000mg/week?

 

[mono_1]

it sounds solid i just did not want to spend any more $$ so i wanted an opinion no big deal just asking

 

[drrman]

it sounds solid i just did not want to spend any more $$ so i wanted an opinion no big deal just asking

i wasn't yelling bro, just pointing it out.

if you are dead set on using what you have then run 2cc's of cyp per week and 1 sust a week, that will give you 10 weeks total

i had a typo in my last post, you have 6500mg total, not 5500mg

that wouldn't be a bad stack. If it were me i'd run the deca in there with it though, you already have it. run 1.5cc/week deca, thats 450mg, will be a nice combo

 

[Makavelli]

Man! I don't even know how they came up with that.

Yeah I know. How do you design something like that? With LSD I guess...

 

[mono_1]

I know you wasn't i just want to try and use what i have and not spend no more cash
the deca i have is 200mg so 1.5 cc isn't that 300mg a wk

and if so how would you run it

being the sus cyp and deca?


and it did sound over board so thats why i asked

 

[drrman]

I know you wasn't i just want to try and use what i have and not spend no more cash
the deca i have is 200mg so 1.5 cc isn't that 300mg a wk

and if so how would you run it

being the sus cyp and deca?


and it did sound over board so thats why i asked

if the deca is 200mg/ml just run 2cc's a week along with the cyp and sust as i told you in the earlier post

 

[NURSEPIMP]

If it were me i'd run the deca in there with it though, you already have it. run 1.5cc/week deca, thats 450mg, will be a nice combo

I would go with that on top of the test . Sounds solid with what you have to use.

-NP

 

[mono_1]

bump

 

[NURSEPIMP]

I think you were given the best options already..

If you are going to only use what you have then you are set here:

if you are dead set on using what you have then run 2cc's of cyp per week and 1 sust a week, that will give you 10 weeks total

i had a typo in my last post, you have 6500mg total, not 5500mg

that wouldn't be a bad stack. If it were me i'd run the deca in there with it though, you already have it. run 1.5cc/week deca, thats 450mg, will be a nice combo

-NP

 

[mono_1]

so it would go
1-10 400 mg cyp
1-10 400 mg deca
1-10 250 mg sus 250

aifm tru cycle nolv if needed = saw so peeps say that nolv isn't good to take with deca?
clomid start 3rd week after last inj 50 mg ed for 3 weeks run aifm w/clomid

 

[NURSEPIMP]

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=516272

that thread talks about the issues with progetin and Nolva ect...

Good luck bro, should be good stuff..

-NP

 

[mono_1]

Thanks
Mono

 

[Makavelli]

so it would go
1-10 400 mg cyp
1-10 400 mg deca
1-10 250 mg sus 250

aifm tru cycle nolv if needed = saw so peeps say that nolv isn't good to take with deca?
clomid start 3rd week after last inj 50 mg ed for 3 weeks run aifm w/clomid

You don't need to use sust if you're already using cyp. Test is test!

 

[mono_1]

so if i drop off the sus should i use the winny at the end of my cycle

i'm so back and forth on my first cycle

I know i should run 400mg of cyp
and what about deca 200 mg a 2 to 1 cycle or 1 to 1

 

[c3bodybuilding]

I'm still trying to figure out how your friend went from 289 to 145 pounds.
He's giving you bad advice on how to cycle.
Just run 1000mg of test for 8 to 10 weeks. Use and AI, like AIFM, throughout the cycle and PCT.

LMAO @ trying to figure out about the friend

 

[NURSEPIMP]

LOL
he hit the 1 instead of the 2

-NP

 

[mono_1]

yup typo error