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prohormones...how close are they

They're very close. In fact, a lot of the so called "pro hormones" are legal designer steroids and can put on serious muscle

Helladrol is my favorite. It converts to Tbol in a small amount and produces similar gains to it, as well as sides.

What sides are we talking about here? I have never, ever gotten sides from Tbol. I have shred fat, and packed on lean mass with it, but never got sides. I always felt very good on it. If you get sides from Helladrol, just buy Tbol.
 
The sides from Tbol and hella are very similar and are normally very mild. They're common but not everyone's experience is the same. Back/calf pumps, elevated BP, liver toxicity, lipid strain, suppression/shutdown, even gyno and lethargy and some cases. These are no brainers. Ancillaries and cycle support like forma, n2guard, Tudca and hcgen is a must. As long as those are covered, your experience with these will be a positive one.
 
The sides from Tbol and hella are very similar and are normally very mild. They're common but not everyone's experience is the same. Back/calf pumps, elevated BP, liver toxicity, lipid strain, suppression/shutdown, even gyno and lethargy and some cases. These are no brainers. Ancillaries and cycle support like forma, n2guard, Tudca and hcgen is a must. As long as those are covered, your experience with these will be a positive one.

Thanks J.. ill have all those on deck. Although I cant use forma, I have a infant and cant take that chance so ill substitute Aromasin. Got Tudca on deck as well w/N2guard... im even thinking of having test stack #17 in PCT along with everything else

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Im stacking Katana with the Helladrol after I run this triple stack.. cant wait

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When do you decide if you should go up in dosage of helladrol... Right now I am at the end if week 2 taking 75mg a day
 
When do you decide if you should go up in dosage of helladrol... Right now I am at the end if week 2 taking 75mg a day

If you aren't experiencing negative sides, you can up the dose. I normally do 75/75/100/100/125/125. If you aren't liking the sides at 125mg, you can always back it down again.
 
So helladrol and katanadrol could be shipped to Australia ? No illegal substances in there, our customs are very strict :(

I honestly don't know.. that would be a question to ask among your other australians on here or mr supps customer support. one thing is for sure though they would refund you if it did get taken.
 
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