Prohormones are steroids

[Bill Llewellyn]

One of the only ones that seems to aromatize is the P-plex compound witch gives big water gains.This is the active ingredient:17a-Methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol – 15 mg

It is chemically not possible for that compound to aromatize. Its A-ring will not allow for this without significant reorganization first, which does not seem likely to occur in the body. It may have inherent estrogenic or progestational activity though.

 

[Just Add Muscle]

It is chemically not possible for that compound to aromatize. Its A-ring will not allow for this without significant reorganization first, which does not seem likely to occur in the body. It may have inherent estrogenic or progestational activity though.

Something causes it to retain water though.I have ran it by itself and every one seems to retain water from it similar to the wet sloppy gains from Methandrostenolone.

 

[Bill Llewellyn]

Something causes it to retain water though.I have ran it by itself and every one seems to retain water from it similar to the wet sloppy gains from Methandrostenolone.

If a compound has inherent estrogenic or progestational activity, it could do this without physcially converting (aromatiizing) to estrogen.

Anadrol is another example of this (estrogenic without aromatizing).

 

[Just Add Muscle]

If a compound has inherent estrogenic or progestational activity, it could do this without physcially converting (aromatiizing) to estrogen.

Anadrol is another example of this (estrogenic without aromatizing).

Awesome knowledge,thank you for clarifying this for me Bill.

 

[nateo1979]

If a compound has inherent estrogenic or progestational activity, it could do this without physcially converting (aromatiizing) to estrogen.

Anadrol is another example of this (estrogenic without aromatizing).

Bill If androstenedione and the nors would have been methylated (C-17) would they have been just as effective as superdrol, halodrol, p-plex, etc.?

 

[1500]

Have you ever taken Pheraplex or Superdrol?

yep! p-plex, epistane, superdrol and most recently cyclo tren (its the worst so far for burning up my nips) dont know why.

 

[dabuffguy]

I would love for my body to react to these PH's as well as some of you guys are stating. Comparable to anadrol? d-bol? I wish.

I'm gonna have to agree with this. I'm on cyclotren and RPN Havoc right now, and my strength and mass gains aren't half what var or tbol did for me. Still, I am satisfied with the results I am getting. Very satisfied.

 

[wrestlemania100]

I can guarantee I can get as good if not better results from a bottle of Pheravol-v or P-plex as any one can get from a bottle of dbol.With out the legal drama and the worries.It all depends on what you want to achieve.if you want dry hard Muscle,Rockhard formulations Methylfreak or RPN Havoc will give you easy 8-12 lbs of clean muscle and plenty of strength.Any Superdrol clone will give you that or a little more with insane strength and vascularity but more sides.pheravol or P-plex will give you even more gains than possibly all of them with a good percentage being water.

so what pro hormone would u reccomend in terms of dry gains?

 

[the_alcatraz]

Absolutely not. Some of these synthetics are exceedingly potent mg for mg, more so than most prescribed orals. They tend to not aromatize though, so are not the most ideal bulking agents to use alone. They tend to behave more like anavar or winstrol than testosterone.

Remember though guys, these are potent orals and also present significant cardiovascular strain, especially as the # of cycles escalates.

Thanks for the info bro. Your views are very well respected in my books.

 

[Just Add Muscle]

I'm gonna have to agree with this. I'm on cyclotren and RPN Havoc right now, and my strength and mass gains aren't half what var or tbol did for me. Still, I am satisfied with the results I am getting. Very satisfied.

Cyclotren and Havoc are not like Var or Tbol.Although on Cyclotren alone my strength has been retarded and it actually freaked me out on the bench a few days back.If you want tbol like results run H-drol.Superdrol will give you more strength hands down than all of them with the exception of maybe P-plex but can give rough sides to some.