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primo w/out test?

kidd73

kidd73

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Here's a debatable question for the vets around here. Have you ever run primo w/out test, and if so, how was it?
My next cycle is going to include primo, but I haven't decided with or without test (leaning heavily toward test). I've researched and concluded it's best with test, but I've read a little about people running it solo w/ good results.

So if you have run a primo only cycle, a test/primo cycle, let's hear from you. OK...what the hell...whether you have or haven't but have an opinion let's hear it.
 
I'd like to see what people say also. My next is going to have primo. But I'm going to use some test also. What dosage are you thinking about?
 
i have run straight primo while getting ready for a show and had nice results. Ran my clen and t3 combo along with it. Great bf drop and hardening results. threw in some tren at the end...
 
400mg Primo with a 250mg test e base is my next cycle. Oh, and 30mg d-bol for starters.

Nelson has posted many times that it is a waste to run primo at anything less than 400mg a week.
 
^^ That's exactly what I was thinking. (Except Test would be 300mg)

I was planning on using some Schering - I'm assuming 400 is a respectable dose?
 
centy said:
I'd like to see what people say also. My next is going to have primo. But I'm going to use some test also. What dosage are you thinking about?
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400 mg per for sure. I'd really like to stay away from any bloat so I'm considering test prop @ 50 mg eod. 350 mg every 2 weeks.
 
night train said:
i have run straight primo while getting ready for a show and had nice results. Ran my clen and t3 combo along with it. Great bf drop and hardening results. threw in some tren at the end...
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No offense, but this makes no sense! You ran Primo, T3, clen and Tren! That isn't straight primo lol
 
Chocolate_Thunder said:
400mg Primo with a 250mg test e base is my next cycle. Oh, and 30mg d-bol for starters.

Nelson has posted many times that it is a waste to run primo at anything less than 400mg a week.
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Yeah I think most see best results starting at 500mg wk.
 
Straight primo is good to bridge as mentioned or it would be a good addition if you want something very mild not to shut you down. Recovery from 400mg of primo a week should be easy as hell.
 
Chocolate_Thunder said:
400mg Primo with a 250mg test e base is my next cycle. Oh, and 30mg d-bol for starters.

Nelson has posted many times that it is a waste to run primo at anything less than 400mg a week.
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I think i have also heard him say that you can yeild nice gains with only 200mgs of Primo EW. I think i seen him say 100mgs E3D not too long ago i might be wrong though. Nelson?
 
Coupla things.

Primo would not be a good bridge since it isn't androgenic enough to replace natural test but will suppress natural test.

As far as I know, Arnold didn't use deca. That was some made up shit someone wrote.

Primo will work at any dosage but since the effects are due to direct anabolism the results will be very subtle, if not barely noticable until you get up to around 400 mgs. That's where it seems to show AS LONG AS YOU TAKE IN ENOUGH PROTEIN> That is key with Primo.

I also think it's a good idea to run some androgen to kick it in more but you don;t need much. And extra 250 of test is enough to make really good gains.

Anyone who says they don't make gains on primo isn;t training hard enough. Don't expect puffy swolen size. Primo actually reduces water weight! What you get is solid muscle. But that has to be built.
 
I ran 400mg/week for 16 weeks of primo. Added var for the last 8 weeks.

Gained about 14 lbs. and dropped BF% from 16% to 10%

It's been about 3 months since and I'm still about 12 lbs. over.

Haven't lost much strength gains. It's the recovery post-workout now that I notice the big difference.

At around the 12-16 week period of the cycle I did get really ripped, to the point where people at my work KNEW I was on something. The breakouts of huge pimples also didn't help my case.

But it's cool though. I'll never run primo again. I can't stand having the Himalayas on my face.

I've ran var and t-bol cycles only before the primo/var combo and I never broke out from those cycles.

I'll tell you though, if there is a "shutdown" or "crash" with primo, then it's either really late or I must be one of the very few that hasn't experienced it yet. I'm serious, since my last injection, my military press and curls have actually INCREASED in weight. Bench went down a bit but not much.

In all honesty, and I'll probably get burnt for this, but I ONLY used 2 weeks of nolva for PCT. That's it.

I've had my bloodwork done and doc said everything is normal.

So yeah, the ONLY really bad aspect of primo in my case is the ACNE breakouts that made me a laughingstock in the workplace.

Unfortunately, I'm not willing to go through that again. They've subsided a bit but my skin is still not the same as it was before this particular cycle.
 
vinced80 said:
In all honesty, and I'll probably get burnt for this, but I ONLY used 2 weeks of nolva for PCT. That's it.
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I'll burn you for it -- but not for the reason you think. Since var doesn't aromatize and primo is anti estrogenic you didn't need the nolva at all. If anything, it may have hindered recovery.
 
I hear what you're sayin bro. I was figuring that smaller EOD shots would be easier than less frequent but larger injects - I'm looking at about 7+ml of oil per week.
 
I am curious about that as well. All the Primo that I have seem is 100mg/1ml so at 400mgs/week that would be 4 fricken mls/week! How the heck would you do that? 2mls 2x's/week? And if you add another compound like Prop, shit, you'll been pinning everday practically, right? Can you get away with pinnning Primo twice/week and throwing in something like Sus250 once(250ml) or twice (500ml)/week? That much test is probably not needed right?
 
I'm doing about 500mg Primo and 250mg Test E per week right now. I do EOD's combined in the same syringe
to keep the injects slightly below 2ml and I don't mind injecting at all. It breaks down to 150mgs Primo and 75mgs test EOD. Nelson said Arnold used to do 100mg shots of Primo ED pre-contest which is 700mg/wk.
 
I was looking at a Tren/Primo cycle for some hardening and strength... So I'm interested in this thread as well...

I saw this thread was a couple months old, so the bro's that were on, what did they think when all done with their cycles?
 
centy said:
^^ That's exactly what I was thinking. (Except Test would be 300mg)

I was planning on using some Schering - I'm assuming 400 is a respectable dose?
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Here's a copy & paste from my reply above.

it´s a pretty weak steroid but actually stronger than Masteron in both regards. I don´t know anyone who has run both compounds at the same dose. We are probably justified in speculating that you´d probably get similar results from either of them, when you consider the fact that you are getting quite a bit less actual drug and more ester when you choose injectable Primobolan (which has the very long Enanthate ester attached to it) over Masteron (which has the very short propionate ester attached to it). In truth, I think part of the reason many Primobolan users have been disappointed is that they failed to use enough of it, for long enough. From it´s chemical structure and anabolic:androgenic rating, we can assume it is at least as effective as Masteron, on an equal Mg for mg basis. However, due to its ester (in the injectable version), it needs to be run for at least 12 weeks to see the full benefits from it. 400-600 is ideal.

RADAR
 
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good god? could you imagine if satch were to see this thread? primprimoprimo. i personally think primo is a waste of money. there are other compounds out there that can produce the same for less and with better results.
 
bigtravis said:
good god? could you imagine if satch were to see this thread? primprimoprimo. i personally think primo is a waste of money. there are other compounds out there that can produce the same for less and with better results.
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Yep! Like Masterdon, I ran Primo one time and wasn't impressed with it.Not enough bang for the buck!


RADAR
 
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