Pre contest cycle

[Victor Chen]

Going to have a BB contest
Here's my 4th..or maybe 5th cycle.


Test c week 1~10 (250 mg eod)
Dbl week 1~5 (50 mg ed)
Npp week 1~8 (150 mg eod)
Tren e week 9~14 (100 mg eod)
Test p week 11~16 (200 mg eod)
Tren a week 15~16 (50 mg ed)
Winny week 11~16 (70 mg ed)


@Anti balls astrophy & fast recovery for PCT
Hcg week 8~15 (250 iu e3d)
week 16 (800 iu eod)
@PCT
Clomid week 17~19
Nolva week 17~20


@Purposes
Test c........base
Dbol...........strenghth & mass
Npp............strenghth & mass & cut
Tren e........same as Npp
Test p........base, less water
Tren a........same as tren e, but less water
Winny........vascularity , cuts & definition


Any idea would be appreciated.

 

[stevesmi]

you aren't going to recover from such a cycle with a 3-4 week SERM only pct.

if that is similar to what you have ran before i bet your HPTA is already trashed.. have you ran blood work?

 

[Victor Chen]

1st cycle, methyltest,winny. oral only.
2nd cycle, test c, winny.
3rd, sustanon, tbol, winny.
4th, test c, a5p, test p, anavar.

never ran tren or npp before.

I got someone to adjust it for me as below:

Week 1~10 Test c 500mg weekly (
Wk 1-4 Test p 100mg eod
Week 11~14 TP 100 mg eod
Week 8~16 Tren a 50 ed
Week 8~16 Mast 100 mg eod

 

[muskate]

Check out this video I made on tren and pre-contest cutting cycles -> https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/video-trenbolone-explained-47719.html

The main thing missing from your cycle is support supplements.
1. An AI like aromasin to keep estrogen in the low-normal range
2. An anti-prolactin drug like cabergoline to keep prolactin in the low-normal range
3. Cardarine to increase fat loss, endurance and prevent tren related side effects like tren cough

Cardarine isn't talked about much as a support for a cycle with tren but it is fantastic for preventing tren related side effects. Tren is notorious for negatively impacting endurance and causing insulin resistance. Cardarine helps prevent that immensely.

I would also add in a good liver aid supplement like n2guard from n2bm.com when using the dbol and winstrol because they are liver toxic oral steroids.

Second - your PCT needs a complete overhaul. Drop the HCG and run the perfect PCT protocol after your cycle -> https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/perfect-pct-simplified!-49252.html

The perfect PCT is arguably the best PCT protocol you can run. It is comprised of the SERMS clomid and nolvadex, the AI aromasin, HCGenerate ES (a good natural testosterone booster), N2guard (a liver/organ detox supplement) and the SARMS ostarine and cardarine.

 

[muskate]

1st cycle, methyltest,winny. oral only.
2nd cycle, test c, winny.
3rd, sustanon, tbol, winny.
4th, test c, a5p, test p, anavar.

never ran tren or npp before.

I got someone to adjust it for me as below:

Week 1~10 Test c 500mg weekly (
Wk 1-4 Test p 100mg eod
Week 11~14 TP 100 mg eod
Week 8~16 Tren a 50 ed
Week 8~16 Mast 100 mg eod

This looks MUCH better. Add in the support supplements I recommend and run the perfect PCT protocol after your cycle and you are good to go.

 

[Victor Chen]

forgot to mention, I have letro with me, before I take 0.625mg eod to prevent estro issue.

 

[Victor Chen]

oh and I also have liv52 and silymarin.

 

[MasonicBodybuilder]

The main thing would be the PCT for me. The cycle is pretty intense and recovery will be tough so you really want to have a thorough PCT. I recommend this: https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/perfect-pct-simplified!-49252.html