Post Cycle T-Levels

[buck23]

About three months ago I finished a nine week cycle of Deca 300-400mg a week and a 5 week cycle of Winstrol 40-50mg ed. Followed of course by 4 weeks of clomid. I recently went in and got my blood tested for everything and everything was good exept t levels, free and total. I mean they were pathetically low like 77 on the total. I should probably mention that I'm 30 yrs and this was my first cycle. I suppose my question is if I should be overly concerned at this point about this. I know Deca shuts you down but is this extreme. The doctor wants me to go back next week and repeat because he can't believe it by looking at me. BTW my friend, who is ten years older, did the same cycle and he just came back low as well. Any advice about what I should be thinking or doing would be appreciated. Should I go on replacement therapy and does that carry risks as well?

Thanks in advance.

 

[supertech69]

I'd say give it a few more weeks, sometimes it can take a little while even after clomid. You may want to concider HCG next time if clomid alone isn't working that well. What were your doses of clomid for the 4 weeks?

 

[buck23]

Just the standard doses 300, 100, 50...4 weeks

 

[Silverback316]

Just give it some time man deca can really shut you down. Perhaps giving HCG a shot here to boost things up is worth a shot. Just tell the doc that you want to wait a bit longer if he wants to prescribe you test because that won't permanatley solve the problem.

 

[Jim SC]

symptoms?

Do you have any symptoms of low T-levels?? Depression? No wood? Gaining fat?

Look at the other post about when Estrogen is the dominant steroid in males real quick........do you have any of these symptoms?

If not, your doc is gunna know something is up, and the only way he can treat you is if you tell him you did deca and winny. deca definately shuts you down. reseach some natural test boosters. try some tribulus maybe. then try HCG. test replacement therapy does have it's problems; I would wait it out for another few months

 

[SCOTTY-TWO-HOTTY]

Its definately the Deca that's causing a problem in returning to normal Test production. The Nandrolone metabolite, Nortestosterone, will remain in your system for over a year. Thus delaying a return to homeostasis.

Test replacement therapy will only "mask" the real problem... and cause a bigger problem in getting your HTPA back on board.

I'd run 500IU of HCG/ED for 10-20 days, with Nolva concurrently at 20mg/ED. Follow that with a Clomid regimen of one month. You better get on this quick Bro. Right now, the dominant hormones in your body are Estrogen and Cortisol. You will look and feel terrible, if you don't already.

 

[buck23]

Thanks for the replys. Here's the thing, I really don't have many of the symptoms that one would have with low test levels. Sure I get tired sometimes but who doesn't. My wood is good, not losing mass, if anything people are telling me I look better. Going back to the doc on tuesday and he's going to repeat the test and add LH and FSH to the test to see where the source of the shortage is coming from. Let me ask you this do doctors or maybe even endocrinologists use things like HCG for men. Are they even educated in the ways many people in here get their HTPA up and running? If I did hormone replacement will that hinder my natural production from starting up, I think so. Finally is it possible that these levels are just normal for me since I'm relatively asymptomatic? I don't know but knowing what I know now I'll never do Deca again. It was my first cycle so I was basically listening to the advice of so-called veterans. As a matter of fact with all the risks why would anyone do Deca? There jsut are so many other and better options.