Police beating in Irvine CA

[p0ink]

btw why would someone wear one of those stupid uggly chains ?

better to choke them with.

 

[Citruscide]

Like P0ink said,

Someone can beat the crap out of people, do all sorts of horrible things and then the cops beat him around a little and is 'Ohhhh... poor guy he got beat up' -- WHAT?! If I had a medal I'd give it to cops like that... hell, If I knocked a cop out and 10 cops were coming, and I go "Oh, ok, ... I give up" -- I'd EXPECT to get at least 3-5 good solid hits by them... and not bitch about it...

C

 

[manny78]

Ok I saw the video but that stupid tourist only pressed the "Play" button when it was at his advantage. I would like to see what happened before. How much you guys bet this dude tried to act like some P.Diddy or NWA ? lol

 

[TheProject]

oh please. I'm sure any reasonable person watching this video will say what sort of threat the suspect posed after being detained in handcuffs. lol.

This "cop" is history. Deal with it.

Yeah, a suspect in handcuffs is completely harmless.

 

[RyanH]

oh please. I'm sure that when AIDS came out any reasonable person would have said the fagboys created it considering the diproportionate number of gays that were dying from it.

Are those people still reasonable?

And we forgot you were the resident expert on everthing including policework.

I'm simply a proponent of our Constitution, something you could learn from. The police are not privileged to use excessive force in detaining a suspect, just as police are not privileged to detain a suspect for a disproportionate amount of time w/o probable cause. Nor, are they allowed to use confessions as substantive evidence without reading a suspect's Miranda warnings first. Premise: there are restrictions even police must adhere to, police are not above the law.

But, those from your radical posse seek to attack our Constitution, denying it the respect it deserves. For example, Bush has already initiated the attack on our Constitution by seeking to prohibit confidential communications (a constitutional privilege) between an attorney and his/her client. Bush's followers want to continue that unAmerican legacy; congratulations on being one of those followers.

You're analogy to AIDS also stinks since assumptions as to who created AIDS were based on ignorance, whereas assumptions in the present case are based on, well, FACTS. Or, has the video been tampered with?

 

[the nature boy]

one thing that looked excessive is that the guy was pushed up against the car and cuffed, and some cop punched him in the face.

That is excessive.

 

[RyanH]

one thing that looked excessive is that the guy was pushed up against the car and cuffed, and some cop punched him in the face.

That is excessive.

obvious isn't it?

Project, of course, a suspect in handcuffs is not always completely harmless, which is why you look to the particular circumstances: was the suspect resisting, how many cops were at the scene, etc. This particular circumstance does not show that REASONABLE force was used.

 

[TheProject]

Project, of course, a suspect in handcuffs is not always completely harmless, which is why you look to the particular circumstances: was the suspect resisting, how many cops were at the scene, etc. This particular circumstance does not show that REASONABLE force was used.

I haven't seen the video, so I don't have an informed opinion. Your previous post seemed to imply that once the cuffs are on, every suspect is going to come along quietly.

Having heard stories from a couple of cops, I know it doesn't always work that way.

Around here, there have been several suspects who've had their heads planted into counters well after they were cuffed and at the station because they decided it would be a good idea to cause trouble again.

 

[the nature boy]

my point is this, I wouldn't make much light of what happened prior to the punch in the face, but the punch itself was too much. He was pressed up against the car, his face was pressed up against the car, and he got punched in the chops.

They could have maced him IMO.

 

[RyanH]

Ryanh you don't know anything about me or my "radical posse." (sounds like an '80's skateboard movie huh?) I didn't even know I have a "Radical Posse," but it sounds cool and me and my friends are going to call ourselves that from now on when we go clubbing.

And yes I agree cops need to adhere to the rules like the rest of us.

But I disagree with you that all the "facts" have been presented in this case. The kid could have been resisting. Something imperceptible. A silent video tape that shows a partial clip from a distanced viewpoint hardly constitues all the FACTS necessary to come to a correct conclusion. You're a lawyer, you should know that.

Assuming arguendo, that the suspect was resisting arrest: Is a punch to the face necessary to detain the victim?

note the word victim, heh heh.