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Yea this site is good for research. I've read many threads from other posters. There was a great one which described the basic exercises and set up a plan for beginners.
Which types of foods do you suggest are the best? I've heard that Tuna, chicken breast, lean turkey meat are all good. Brown rice, oats, whole wheat bread, green veggies are all considered good too. What else should I add to my diet?
Which types of foods do you suggest are the best? I've heard that Tuna, chicken breast, lean turkey meat are all good. Brown rice, oats, whole wheat bread, green veggies are all considered good too. What else should I add to my diet?
Cucumber_Jones
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Keeping a positive nitrogen balance can be tricky. Involves eating mucho protein. But that will get you where you are going.clash said:
Hey, is it possible for anyone to help me make some sort of a meal plan. Remember, I'm in school so It has to be something parctical. As much as I would love to, I can't really cook during my lunch and there are many foods I probably won't be able to eat.
Anyways, from what I've read, Oats sound like part of a good breakfast. How about some egg whites? Maybe fruits? And how many eggs get too dangerous because of the colesterol?
For lunch, How about a chicekn sandwich in whole wheat bread? I'll make my own chicken breast, cut it into slices and put it into the bread with some lettuce?
At around 2 when I get home, what should I have? More protein?
I'll probably work out at around 4. Should I have something right before it and something right after? Help?
Anyways, from what I've read, Oats sound like part of a good breakfast. How about some egg whites? Maybe fruits? And how many eggs get too dangerous because of the colesterol?
For lunch, How about a chicekn sandwich in whole wheat bread? I'll make my own chicken breast, cut it into slices and put it into the bread with some lettuce?
At around 2 when I get home, what should I have? More protein?
I'll probably work out at around 4. Should I have something right before it and something right after? Help?
I have a shake before & after each workout. The one before has more carbs for fueling the workout. The one after is just protein, 'cause it's usually about 1/2 hr before supper..clash said:Hey, is it possible for anyone to help me make some sort of a meal plan. Remember, I'm in school so It has to be something parctical. As much as I would love to, I can't really cook during my lunch and there are many foods I probably won't be able to eat.
I cook my foods, about 2-3 days at a time. B.S. Chicken, or diced roast beef in a skillet with Olive Oil & Spices. Boil a little brown rice. Split over 3 meals in plastic containers & just grab for lunches on the way out the door.
Anyways, from what I've read, Oats sound like part of a good breakfast. How about some egg whites? Maybe fruits? And how many eggs get too dangerous because of the colesterol?
I don't think dietary cholesterol is an issue any more, but limit the amount of whole eggs per day, due to the fat.
For lunch, How about a chicekn sandwich in whole wheat bread? I'll make my own chicken breast, cut it into slices and put it into the bread with some lettuce?
That works too. Try using canned Tuna a coupla days instead of Chicken.
At around 2 when I get home, what should I have? More protein? Protein shake.
I'll probably work out at around 4. Should I have something right before it and something right after? Help?
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Also, really good resources for the beginner are Body for Life (book) by Bill Phillips and Burn the Fat, Feed the Muscle (e-book) by Tom Venuto. Both have detailed nutrition and training plans, with Venuto telling you a bunch on how to tweak it.
Best source for diets in detail - read logs. I'm not sure about the guys area, but the Women's Board has lots of logs with very detailed diets. Be aware, however, that the diet for a 6'5" 230lb guy on a bulk or a 5'2" 135lb woman on a cut will be guidelines only in TYPE of food to eat unless you've got the same goals, train the same, weigh the same and supplement identically (oh yeah, and are their identical twin . .
) You'll need to be able to set your own up soon, so best to start that way.
Women's Forum stickies do offer some detailed diet plans, esp. with the Shadow Plan.
Best source for diets in detail - read logs. I'm not sure about the guys area, but the Women's Board has lots of logs with very detailed diets. Be aware, however, that the diet for a 6'5" 230lb guy on a bulk or a 5'2" 135lb woman on a cut will be guidelines only in TYPE of food to eat unless you've got the same goals, train the same, weigh the same and supplement identically (oh yeah, and are their identical twin . .
) You'll need to be able to set your own up soon, so best to start that way.Women's Forum stickies do offer some detailed diet plans, esp. with the Shadow Plan.
Jimbo15
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These guys are giving some good advice. I used to be fat in middles school, started lifting when I got into high school. I now have the same waist size I did when I was in 6th grade, but taller and leaner now.
As for training and diet: eat lean proteins, green veggies, whole grain carbs-in limited amounts. Make portion sizes small, eat something every 2.5-3 hours with 16oz of water, should be about 6 meals a day. Dont do cardio. Sure you'd be a lean little guy, but look at a distance runners muscle structure. Not appealing. Do cuircut workouts, interval sprint workouts, etc. Workout at school before your walk home.
As for training and diet: eat lean proteins, green veggies, whole grain carbs-in limited amounts. Make portion sizes small, eat something every 2.5-3 hours with 16oz of water, should be about 6 meals a day. Dont do cardio. Sure you'd be a lean little guy, but look at a distance runners muscle structure. Not appealing. Do cuircut workouts, interval sprint workouts, etc. Workout at school before your walk home.
yea, eat 6 even spaced meals (I'd stray way from the 10x your bodyweight in calories at your age, though..seems way to low)
If you lift 3-4 x week and walk home from school everyday, id say you should be at least eating 2,200 calories if not more at your age. eat clean foods (oats, potatoes, yams, vegetables, some fruit is ok, egg whites, chicken, lean turkey, even lean beef would be ok)
Like everyone said above, stray away from simple carbs and bad fats if you can. Do not avoid fat in general, though. It is very important to get some healthy fats (nuts, fish oil, olive oil) in order to keep your body efficient.
it boils down to a very simple concept once you get a good diet in check. I'm certainly not going to take the time to make you a diet, this board is filled iwth tons of them so look around.
eat clean, lift hard, and live life
If you lift 3-4 x week and walk home from school everyday, id say you should be at least eating 2,200 calories if not more at your age. eat clean foods (oats, potatoes, yams, vegetables, some fruit is ok, egg whites, chicken, lean turkey, even lean beef would be ok)
Like everyone said above, stray away from simple carbs and bad fats if you can. Do not avoid fat in general, though. It is very important to get some healthy fats (nuts, fish oil, olive oil) in order to keep your body efficient.
it boils down to a very simple concept once you get a good diet in check. I'm certainly not going to take the time to make you a diet, this board is filled iwth tons of them so look around.
eat clean, lift hard, and live life
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