Planning my first cycle - opinions?

[KEE123]

Sup guys, just wanted to share with you a cycle i plan on doing in a couple months time what do you guys think?

Week 1 - 16
test e - 500mg a week

Week 8 - 16
tbol 60-100mg each day

Week 8- 16
100mg anavar each day

I will use pharma grade armoasin at 12.5mg starting 1 week into my first pin and carry on using throughout PCT

Double strength Liv.52 ( liver protection ) for when i start my orals

Finasteride at 1.25mg each day

PCT -
Nolvadex
clomid

( haven't yet researched in depth enough with PCT doses yet so if anyone has any suggestions before i decide on something let me know

nolvadex will be something like -
40/40/20/20

 

[zmyj88]

Why tbol and var out of curiosity?

Some stats would be nice too

 

[bigorse]

Why tbol and var out of curiosity?

Some stats would be nice too

i was wondering that too. no need got 2 orals in a first cycle esp. at the same time.

 

[zmyj88]

My point, liv 52 notwithstanding, to you're not gonna know which is giving you which results

 

[bigorse]

My point, liv 52 notwithstanding, to you're not gonna know which is giving you which results

that right there Is the reason for simple first cycles. test with a dbol kicker is a nice first cycle

 

[KEE123]

Why tbol and var out of curiosity?

Some stats would be nice too

I wanted to build some lean mass but at the same time hardening up, thats why i thought of adding the var, although now that you've mentioned that it doesn't seem the best idea.

 

[KEE123]

Stats :
20 years old
been training for about 3 years
168lbs with roughly 13% bf
5'11

 

[Saiyan7]

At 20 you should have some high test levels. And at 168 you sound pretty skinny.

How is your diet. Honestly it sounds like you need food more than you need aas.

 

[KEE123]

not that skinny, been bulking for a while, my weight could be well more than 168lbs as that was from a while back, hate weighing myself but i've attached a photo so you can get a look at my shape.

 

[bigorse]

good condition but you have heaaaps of room to grow natty trust me. if you cant gain natty a cycle wont help much

 

[KEE123]

I Could get a little bigger if i kept with being natural but throughout the past 3 years of training I have been cutting trying to get shredded and all the muscle i put on i burnt off due to not watching my nutrition and literally dropping everything too low to quick, every year of training it gets harder and harder to put on muscle thats why I wanted to speed the process up a little

 

[bigorse]

I Could get a little bigger if i kept with being natural but throughout the past 3 years of training I have been cutting trying to get shredded and all the muscle i put on i burnt off due to not watching my nutrition and literally dropping everything too low to quick, every year of training it gets harder and harder to put on muscle thats why I wanted to speed the process up a little

you need to learn to diet properly then...

 

[RADAR]

Steroids help only so much you need to learn how to diet, and at 20 your body is producing pleanty of test.
I suggest waiting until you're 25 and concentrate on building a good foundation right now.