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(PICS) Noob going on first cycle

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I am completely new to lifting. I am 22, 5 10, 180. I have eaten junk and only drank soda my whole life and now drink only water and clean food. I have my diet nailed thanks to my personal trainer i hired, and I am doing compound exercises mostly 3 days a week.

So diet and nutrition is spot on now. As you can see, I am a skinny fat. the gut is gross, like im pregnant...



I just starting lifting when I hired my PT 2 weeks ago. I am starting a 14 week test e only cycle at 600 mg for 14 weeks. followed by pct. Do you think I will be able to bulk and still lose a lot of BF? I heard begginers lose a lot of bf and still gain muscle thanks to body recomp.
 
I can't see your pics bro but from what you've said the best advice is don't cycle! Keep training until you get to at least 15% body fat, if you've only just started lifting you'll make excellent progress naturally. Seriously unless you're in good physical condition you're only endangering your health if you juice now, besides, gear works best on muscles that have been well trained. Besides at your age you've plenty of natural test, don't go messing with your hormones just yet, steroids aren't a short cut.

Ok that's my 0.02 but I'm pretty sure most people here would agree with me :)
 
I completely agree. We can't see your pics but if you don't have boobs already, you will.
Wait a year at least and get rid of your gut.
And your first cycle shouldn't be 600mg
It should be closer to 300 or 400.
You work up to 600 so it is still effective later.
 
first off kudos for having the balls to post a pic, good job on changing your diet but it takes years to build a base before juicing. I lifted 13 years before touching steroids.

looking at your pics you have zero base to work with. this has disaster looking all over it. also yes the belly is gross and isn't gonna go away from steroids.. it could get worse though.. I would consider a detox program for the next month or two, you could have some sort of blockage.. thats NOT NORMAL to have that.

basically I have no idea where you got the steroid idea from but you just don't need them..
 
first off kudos for having the balls to post a pic, good job on changing your diet but it takes years to build a base before juicing. I lifted 13 years before touching steroids.

looking at your pics you have zero base to work with. this has disaster looking all over it. also yes the belly is gross and isn't gonna go away from steroids.. it could get worse though.. I would consider a detox program for the next month or two, you could have some sort of blockage.. thats NOT NORMAL to have that.

basically I have no idea where you got the steroid idea from but you just don't need them..

I have feeling their is something wrong....my whole body is like 13% bf but my stomach is like 25%. How the fuck is that possible....
 
Wow strange
Test or any kind of steroids isn't for you.
Train your ass off, eat plenty of good food an get some whey protein and creatine.
Do this and you will get excellent results.
Read up on training and nutrition as much as you can. Steroids won't do anything for you right now
 
I completely agree. We can't see your pics but if you don't have boobs already, you will.
Wait a year at least and get rid of your gut.
And your first cycle shouldn't be 600mg
It should be closer to 300 or 400.
You work up to 600 so it is still effective later.

Ya. I will be doing keto for 3 months. That should kill the gut, and get my whole bf down to around 13%

Then will do my first cycle -test @ 400 for 14 weeks

Then Ill wait 4 months and do my second cycle - test e 300mg/tren e 200 mg
 
^^^ keto is great short term but keep in mind when you re-introduce cals after you need to slowly do it. otherwise you will gain everything back and more after as your body starts storing quickly.

A LOT of people fail on keto for that reason.

all the more reason to leave the steroids alone for a while and get your diet and workouts online.

I would see both a GOOD gastro doctor and also a GOOD holistic doc.. you may have a blockage or something very odd going on.. or you could also have to do a strong detox program. years of bad diet is not gonna be fixed overnight, this is gonna take some time but you are still young. set a goal to use steroids at maybe 26. from now until then dedicate the next 4 years to diet and exercise. need to hit the gym more than 3X per week if you are serious about building muscle. read the 3 day split routine in my signature below and try to hit the gym 4-5X per week instead
 
Ya. I will be doing keto for 3 months. That should kill the gut, and get my whole bf down to around 13%

Then will do my first cycle -test @ 400 for 14 weeks

Then Ill wait 4 months and do my second cycle - test e 300mg/tren e 200 mg

Your not ready in even 3 months mate I wait a lot longer you've only JUST started training and dieting. Tren for a second cycle is an absolute terrible idea for you aswell its only for the advance mate wud Wana have a lot more cycles under your belt then just one before u jump on tren. Do some research before you start Fucking with your body could do you damage
 
Your not ready in even 3 months mate I wait a lot longer you've only JUST started training and dieting. Tren for a second cycle is an absolute terrible idea for you aswell its only for the advance mate wud Wana have a lot more cycles under your belt then just one before u jump on tren. Do some research before you start Fucking with your body could do you damage

I heard tren is very fat burning and muscle building, seems like a good 2nd cut stack???
 
OP I just looked at your pics, there is definitely something more than a little fat going on with your stomach, it looks pooched out like you're suffering from Kwashiorkor, (a form of malnutrition that happens when there's not enough protein in the diet. You may have seen kids in Africa with this condition, it's incredibly rare in developed countries.) I agree with Steve, you need to see a gastroenterologist about that.
 
OP I just looked at your pics, there is definitely something more than a little fat going on with your stomach, it looks pooched out like you're suffering from Kwashiorkor, (a form of malnutrition that happens when there's not enough protein in the diet. You may have seen kids in Africa with this condition, it's incredibly rare in developed countries.) I agree with Steve, you need to see a gastroenterologist about that.

I pretty much drank (2) 2 liters of soda every day and ate frozen pizzas only for the last 10 years of my life. no water hardly ever. Could that have caused it?
 
I pretty much drank (2) 2 liters of soda every day and ate frozen pizzas only for the last 10 years of my life. no water hardly ever. Could that have caused it?

yes as I said years of abuse on your body isn't gonna be fixed overnight.. you need to see a both a gastro and a holistic doc... a gastro is not gonna put you on a detox, but a holistic doc will.

combine western and eastern medicine to help you.

steroids WILL MAKE IT WORSE. and there is no such thing as putting on muscle and losing fat.. steroids aren't magic pills. you still are not understanding that.
 
yes as I said years of abuse on your body isn't gonna be fixed overnight.. you need to see a both a gastro and a holistic doc... a gastro is not gonna put you on a detox, but a holistic doc will.

combine western and eastern medicine to help you.

steroids WILL MAKE IT WORSE. and there is no such thing as putting on muscle and losing fat.. steroids aren't magic pills. you still are not understanding that.


what is this "detox"? What does it do? How do you do it?
 
I pretty much drank (2) 2 liters of soda every day and ate frozen pizzas only for the last 10 years of my life. no water hardly ever. Could that have caused it?

I couldn't say bro I'm not a doctor, I mean when those kids in Africa get it, it's because they're starving, there literally is NO food about, let alone protein rich foods. Sodas can bloat your stomach making it stick out more than it should but this is usually due to the gas and goes down after you burp.. Seriously bro, see a doc about that. It could be serious.

This might interest you.
http://www.livestrong.com/article/187219-carbonated-water-side-effects
 
OP I just looked at your pics, there is definitely something more than a little fat going on with your stomach, it looks pooched out like you're suffering from Kwashiorkor, (a form of malnutrition that happens when there's not enough protein in the diet. You may have seen kids in Africa with this condition, it's incredibly rare in developed countries.) I agree with Steve, you need to see a gastroenterologist about that.

yup and part of the reason his stomach is out like that could be organ size issues. and with that the liver gets enlarged.. we are talking major risk running any type of AAS.
 
what is this "detox"? What does it do? How do you do it?

it flushes your body out.

there are ways to do it like going into the sauna, getting a massage and drinking tons of water, etc... but in your case you need something more aggressive. if you can afford steroids you can afford to get a detox done.
 
it flushes your body out.

there are ways to do it like going into the sauna, getting a massage and drinking tons of water, etc... but in your case you need something more aggressive. if you can afford steroids you can afford to get a detox done.

I have no insurance. How much would it cost for a doc to diagnose me and how much will be medicine?
 
I have no insurance. How much would it cost for a doc to diagnose me and how much will be medicine?

haha no idea man. but if you can afford steroids i think you can afford to see a doctor.

worst case just don't pay the bill.

also if you are 22 you should already be covered on your parents insurance till you are 26.
 
This obviously has to be a joke...

why? I prob has really low natty test. I am just going to do my test cycle and see what happens. I need a solid base of muscle to have a chance of burning the belly fat off. Thinking about even combing test/tren for my first cycle since tren is a metabolism booster and fat burner + lean mass gainer.

I really have nothing to lose. I cant take looking at myself anymore. I am just going to do it. starting my cycle next week. I am still going to see a doctor about the detoxing
 
Do you realize you could cause serious damage to your body. I ran a short cycle when I was 19 like an idiot with no supports or pct luckily I stopped after 5 weeks but I went to my doc and my shit was all over the place. Since then it was a focus on diet and exercise until now and I'm 25 listen to the guys here they are just trying to help and make sure you don't hurt yourself. Especially with tren man did you read any of the posts here on that and it's side effects? Diet and exercise man save the gear for later
 
IMO I wouldn't run any aas for at least a couple years. Get incredibly healthy first!! Get your bf to 11% and reach your max genetic weight. Don't just take the easy way out that's how you f up your body.
Try natural test boosters if anything. Unleashed and hcgenerate. Try a detox called flor essence from the vitamin shoppe. It works great. Eat well, sleep well, train hard.
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its hard with steroids to die even if you don't run them correctly. HPTA suppression/shutdown is likely, strained kidney's/heart health is likely.. however in your case if you do have an enlarged liver causing that belly problem you fall into that group that I can safely say can possibly die from steroid use.

I just wanted you to be aware of that.. obviously you aren't gonna listen because you beleive that steroids are gonna transform your body like magic. but if I didn't tell you that if/when something bad happens to you atleast I could live with myself.
 
why? I prob has really low natty test. I am just going to do my test cycle and see what happens. I need a solid base of muscle to have a chance of burning the belly fat off. Thinking about even combing test/tren for my first cycle since tren is a metabolism booster and fat burner + lean mass gainer.

I really have nothing to lose. I cant take looking at myself anymore. I am just going to do it. starting my cycle next week. I am still going to see a doctor about the detoxing

I know what it's like to feel helpless and that you have nothing to lose. 7 or so years ago I was 135 pounds and in a very similar position. I was skinny, depressed and it seemed like it would take forever to get in the sort of shape or have the body I needed to be happy. I had access to AAS but I listened to people giving me the same advice you're getting now.

I started lifting heavy (heavy to me, not to most people) and eating right. I highly recommend learning how to do olympic style lifts and good full-body lifts like power cleans, deadlifts, squats, etc.. Your PT is probably already showing you these and if not, ask him/her.

Guess what happened? My body started to change, my energy levels started to change, my image of myself and self-esteem sky rocketed. And that was only after a few months.

And you're absolutely right, your natural test levels are probably low. But I can almost guarantee that your levels are not low because of genetics but because of your horrific diet and lack of exercise and weight training. You've only been exercising and weight training for a couple weeks.

Work with your PT, eat right, lift, HAVE DISCIPLINE, and then come back in only 120 days and tell us that you don't feel better. Tell us that you aren't making progress and that you aren't getting any stronger.

I am willing to put money on it that if you take a blood test now, which you can do for $44.99, and test yourself again after eating clean and working your ass off in the gym doing power lifts, that your test levels increase among other measurements of overall health.

You've been treating your body like shit for 10 years. What do you expect to happen? Luckily for all of us, the human body is AMAZINGLY adaptable and can rapidly recover when we start doing what we are supposed to do.

The point is, you need to learn how to discipline yourself now. You need to learn how to do the proper lifts the proper way and eat right. Because without those core skills you will never get much from AAS. The other point is, it's okay to feel shitty. But you don't have to stay that way and steroids aren't going to fix it.

Seriously, go work your ass off, listen to what Steve has told you and see the proper doctors, put on some weight, and then come back and talk abut AAS and you may get a much different response. Or you may decide that you're making such RIDICULOUS GAINS NATURALLY that you're going to hold off so you don't stunt your natural potential.
 
why? I prob has really low natty test. I am just going to do my test cycle and see what happens. I need a solid base of muscle to have a chance of burning the belly fat off. Thinking about even combing test/tren for my first cycle since tren is a metabolism booster and fat burner + lean mass gainer.

I really have nothing to lose. I cant take looking at myself anymore. I am just going to do it. starting my cycle next week. I am still going to see a doctor about the detoxing

Bro, you actually have A LOT to loose.. Number one, and meaning no offense by this, but your obviously down about your physical appearance, which is perfectly fine. Not one motha fucker on here can say that they have never been depressed about the way they look at some point in time..even thinking about running tren for a first time is a huge no no! think your upset the way you look now?? google prolactine related gynecomastia.. if you dont know what your doing, that could happen to you!! AAS is NOT something too fool around with man..it could seriously fuck you up beyond measure! Ive been doing cycle for over two years now and still havent touched tren!

trust me, i was in the same boat you are.. shitty diet, lazy as fuck, and wanted a cheap way out..thought " hey! ill do some juice and ill look like these guys!" boy was i wrong! After spending a shit ton of money on gear, using it for about twelve weeks, guess what it got me!? not a damn thing because i didnt know what i was doing! i got my ass reamed by numers of guys on forums because i made post like this and cycled recklessly and against there recommendations..

ok look at it this way.. a man who is in good shape natty jumps on juice with everything to a T... he gets amazing results because he introduced something new into his body.. once you start lifting correctly and eating clean, the same thing will happen to you..i promise you!! yea, you stomach area does need to be checked out and could possibly be a medical condition, but hey.. once its fixed.. your on your way to success brotha!! if you need any help with anything, your more than welcome to pm me with any questions,and im sure i speak for alot of members here as well.. and if i dont know the answer, ill ask someone who does know the answer.. we are all here to help each other and the last thing we want is someone getting hurt while running recklessly.. this is your body and life were talking about here.. you only get one, so yea.. you actually do have something to loose.. take it from someone who has been in your shoes before.. build a base first.. after all, Rome wasnt built in a day..
first and formost.. just like steve said, if you can afford aas, than you can afford to go see a doc.. get yourself healthy first.. you gotta crawl before you can walk bro..
 
why? I prob has really low natty test. I am just going to do my test cycle and see what happens. I need a solid base of muscle to have a chance of burning the belly fat off. Thinking about even combing test/tren for my first cycle since tren is a metabolism booster and fat burner + lean mass gainer.

I really have nothing to lose. I cant take looking at myself anymore. I am just going to do it. starting my cycle next week. I am still going to see a doctor about the detoxing

You need to listen before you hurt your self.. aas is not for you and tren is one of the most harsh steroids up there and the sides can be unbearable. Your unfit not healthy DON'T RUN STEROIDS!!!
 
Dude if u've got this many people that are experienced at what they are doing, telling u not to do something then don't. Lol its pretty easy decision for u. Get ur health checked, start a solid training program, get good at lifting weights, and then re-assess ur situation. U've got a bad hand of cards, why go all in? Keep us posted on what the doc says.
 
I did more research on your condition. I came up with possible cancer or cyst in your stomach. you need to get that checked out.. I cannot for the life of me understand how you can have that problem and never visited a doctor... it doesn't seem to be plausible.. a major lack of awareness of your own body telling you something is wrong.
 
Please tell me you are not serious. Bro steve is right on. That's a medical condition not fat. Please get medical attention.

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You have nuts putting yourself out there like that. But listen to these guys please. AAS could exasperate your problem. Your diet completely ruined you. Processed foods are the worst thing to happen to humanity since small pox... no joke. Frozen pizza and soda are the absolute worst things you can put into your body. You are correct about having low testosterone. Hormones require real foods to be produced. That diet has ruined EVERY SYSTEM IN YOUR BODY. EVERYTHING. You probably have a slough of other problems that have yet to manifest symptoms, or you just don't notice anymore.

I have good news for you however. The human body is an incredible thing, and you are young so there is hope.

The bad news: You have to make a lifestyle change. Sounds like you are already on your way, do what your trainer tells you. Study nutrition and exercise religiously. No more video games, get a real job... one that gives you health insurance. And don't bs yourself , McDonalds will give health insurance to full time employees. Get outdoor hobbies, play rec sports, read books.

In time you will be ready to cycle, but you have some work to do to heal your body and I'm sure much bigger problems to deal with at the moment.

Get squared away before you take the plunge, or you will net nothing from the experience. Good luck.
 
I'm 39, fat as hell (329 lbs) and just started working out....actually, I can't even lift weights yet because my joints are all screwed up. I have to use those band things like grandma has to use for therapy. I spent most of my life trying to find an easy way out of my weight problem. All this to say, you could be just like me if you don't slow down and listen to these guys.

I have a feeling your PT gave you this really, really bad info. If i'm right, the guy/girl doesn't know crap at best, or is a drug pusher. I hope i'm wrong...bottom line, the folks on here know what they are talking about. Listen to them!!!

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Frozen pizza and soda only for 10 years. I cant imagine all the other garbage you ate. Tons of chips too right....?
You have been poisoning you body for 10years. Ever get fucking blood work done? I bet your lipid profile and cbc is seriously fucked up.

Go ahead and do your cycle and become a statistic. Another poster boy for the media to talk about how steroids kill people. If you choose not to listen to the ungodly wealth of knowledge and common sense that you have access to here then you deserve whatever happens to you. Whatever that makes me.
 
I have a feeling your PT gave you this really, really bad info. If i'm right, the guy/girl doesn't know crap at best, or is a drug pusher. I hope i'm wrong...

Good point fat guy.

Fire the piss out of that PT if he recommended u go on steroids for some serious reasons. And he's dumb as shit if he didn't discuss the tummy issue with u. I'd be tempted to tell his boss he pushed them on u just drive the point home to him (ofc if this is the case) b/c he's why steroids get such a bad rap.
 
I don't think he cares to listen anymore and since u don't care to listen and If u think ur test is low try some Hc generate or unleashed
Or transaderm.
 
Bro I just was able to see the pics I would def go to the doc you look like my brother he ate tons of crap and had a pooched out gut turned out it was a major intestinal blockage and left unchecked that tuff gets serious
 
#1 bro if you are that depressed and down about how you look, steroid will likely only make it worse. It's not magic and won't transform you. If you run the cycle then most likely you won't transform how you want, and depending on how healthy you run the cycle, the mental effects of juice may only make the depression worse once you get off and realize you have a really long way to go.

#2 if your diet has been horrific as you say it is, you need a while of perfect dieting so your body can detox. You need to drink tons of water. Eat clean. This alone will make you feel so much better because of the nutrition, and that fact that you have control over something. You can put your mind to something difficult and get it done. Sticking to a strict diet is rough, but once you get in that groove you truly feel accomplished.

#3 get some good quality cardio sessions in. It's gonna help you cut fat, but will also help your lifts. You will have more energy and endurance which will cause you to lift more. Your core will be strengthened which will help you lift more.

#4 come to terms with yourself and the situation you are in. The only person who can fix it is you. Make getting fit somewhat of an obsession. Stop thinking I can't get in shape without some artificial aids. Think 'I will get in shape and I will not stop until I get where I want to be.' set your goals at realistic intervals so that you are reaching them and not getting discouraged.

Now I know you will do what you feel you need to do, but I hope you take everyone's advice. I know you feel you may be in a dark place, but the light is always there you just have to strive and work for it. Good luck bro. PM me if you need any help
 
Hey bro, good on you for posting pics man. Takes balls and shows your serious. Def don't touch gear man and get your stomach looked at by a doctor as suggested. Good news you have come to the right place to get that body you want. Firstly I have seen more fail PT's then I have seen good ones by far. Post up your diet and training schedule that you have been given and let us all have a look at it and go from there. Do that and you will be heading to where you want to be man and at quicker rate than you probably think possible. Sharky an Aus loan shark was in the media a while back who uses steroids and he said this ''If you're chasing an image that's always slightly out of reach when you're 20, how are you going to cope in your 50s? Worse still, imagine how you're going to look.'' So basically when I think about this and relate it too myself who is still chasing that dream body like you is not to become obsessed to the point that it makes it me unhappy but let it motivate you to get to where you want to be and remember at some point looks have to fade so be happy with who you are. He also speaks about the death of a friend who was abusing steroids. So please listen to all the good bros here and don't risk your health and help us help you by doing what I and the boys here suggested.
 
Good point fat guy.

Fire the piss out of that PT if he recommended u go on steroids for some serious reasons. And he's dumb as shit if he didn't discuss the tummy issue with u. I'd be tempted to tell his boss he pushed them on u just drive the point home to him (ofc if this is the case) b/c he's why steroids get such a bad rap.

Well he didnt tell me to take them specifically he just told me that they can do wonders for your body if i had them so i looked and found some online.
 
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Well it does wonders, no one is arguing against it. But for that u need years of experience and mentally and physically. Dedication to work hard, it's a lifestyle u have to choose.
You can't just hit a gym for 2-3 months and juice with expectation to grow up.
You should focus more on ur condition and see a doctor.
Forget the juice
 
Well it does wonders, no one is arguing against it. But for that u need years of experience and mentally and physically. Dedication to work hard, it's a lifestyle u have to choose.
You can't just hit a gym for 2-3 months and juice with expectation to grow up.
You should focus more on ur condition and see a doctor.
Forget the juice



I read about the "liver detox" online. A lot of people did it with great results. It involves salt and olive oil. I am going to do this tommorow. I have been drinking water only for awhile, but not very much. I will do this liver detox and drink 1.5 gallons a day for 2 weeks, then i will take pics in 2 weeks and share with you guys. thanks for all the advice i appreciate it!
 
Why don't u just go and see a doctor?
You might have a condition which could not be resolved with natural therapies.
 
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Dude i have over 40 yrs in this field, Steroids are not going to loose fat how you look starts in the kitchen, I work at a hospital and you need to see a Doc ASAP that stomach area looks life threating.
 
Dude i have over 40 yrs in this field, Steroids are not going to loose fat how you look starts in the kitchen, I work at a hospital and you need to see a Doc ASAP that stomach area looks life threating.

God you guys have me scared now. My stomach has been this way since i was like 18 and dont feel anything. I am just gonna go to the doc asap you guys got me worried. better safe than sorry.
 
Where do i go? I dont have a doctor. Do I go to the hospital? Or do I look for a certain kind of doctor? Please help thanks
 
Damn bro u have balls even posting pictures of yourself looking like that!! Your taking the right steps tho bro, u have to start Some where just lift hard and eat as good as you can and the results will come, u have to be patient but once u start seeing results you'll be hooked for life there is no better feeling in the world then watching your body change and your ego get boosted... Good luck bro

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Go to your local hospital. Go to the ER ward. They will take you right in, without insurance.They will take all your general info an bill you in the mail. I wouldn't care about the bill right now bro. Get yourself checked out. Good luck man.
 
Go to your local hospital. Go to the ER ward. They will take you right in, without insurance.They will take all your general info an bill you in the mail. I wouldn't care about the bill right now bro. Get yourself checked out. Good luck man.

Last time I went to the er i had a slight pain in my forearm. Went in. Waited for an hour for the doc to help. Doc massaged my forarm for 5 mins and said "I can't tell what the problem is". Then he gave me a number to call another doc.


then I get a $350 bill the next week. $350 for a fuckin 5 minute massage and no help. I can only imagine the cost for this. I bet them will have to do an x ray of something. prob thousands. I make $600 a week but cannot afford if its that much....
 
Do you know any doctors or have any family friends that are doctors?

See if a general practictioner will just do a quick referral for u. Do some up front research and help him give u some possibilites for gastro, nutrional, etc.

Also see if you can find a medical type forum or even something more specialized for ur issue. It's probably out there. Almost every health problem i've ever had, i've figured it out or narrowed it down to a couple possibilities using google.
 
u r a stuuborn kid... u can afford to juice but u cant afford to see a doc.... u have been like that for 5 yrs??? and u still havent been smart enough to have it checked out?? go to a free clinic... go to the county hospital... who cares what the bill is.. u r covered until u are 26 under the new laws
 
man you look like a diseased animal in nature on those pics.. all white real tiny bones and some weird beer gut... go and do full body tests before its too late...
 
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