Physique Altering Exercises Poll

[ErikZ]

Guys, vote up for the exercises which you believe has the most dramatic effect on general physique once they are implemented.
My vote goes for Deadlifts (yup, sorry squat fans).
Cheers,
Have a great weekend

 

[SgtSlaughter]

I vote "other"... as the public poll will show...

I belive it's a combination of things, you can't pinpoint it to simply one lift. Unless you had untrained athletes all with exact same stats and exact metabolisms, ect, ect... blah blah and had them do one lift each and get good at it, then take pics.

I say squat, deadlifts, and bench will have a significant physique changing potential when coupled with a good solid diet for growth.

 

[H_T_]

my whole week is centered around how much effort i can put into SQ or DL. everything else is just fluff.

 

[Cynical Simian]

I belive it's a combination of things, you can't pinpoint it to simply one lift. Unless you had untrained athletes all with exact same stats and exact metabolisms, ect, ect... blah blah and had them do one lift each and get good at it, then take pics.

+1

I'm abstaining from this vote.

 

[al420]

+1

I'm abstaining from this vote.

It says Bicep Curls.....

 

[Powerbuilder333]

The deadlift covers it all, and is the ultimate indicator of total body strength.

 

[anotherbutters]

You don't have 'eating' as an option.

 

[SgtSlaughter]

tweakle... is that how you've achieved uber- swoleness?

 

[al420]

You don't have 'eating' as an option.

...and I don't see a mention of a Swiss Ball anywhere

 

[crazycarwes]

Oly lifts.

 

[Guinness5.0]

I'm torn fetween DL and Squat. Squats hit the quads harder, and they are the biggest muscle group in the body. But deads hit more groups. Tough call. I can't decide.

 

[Longhorn85]

I'll throw in a vote for military press. Looking at the question, it is about physique altering, not strength, so I picked this one.

When a person develops a wicked set of delts it is very visible to even non-weight trainers. In a shirt, a tank, on the beach. Combined with tight abs makes for a good V shape.

 

[gjohnson5]

I would say neither squats or deadlifting. I would say the rowing would hit all muscle groups of the body

 

[Guinness5.0]

I would say neither squats or deadlifting. I would say the rowing would hit all muscle groups of the body

Makes sense. I never thought you were very bright.

 

[gjohnson5]

When you loiter in an idiot farm , I guess noone would appear that bright

Makes sense. I never thought you were very bright.

 

[Guinness5.0]

When you loiter in an idiot farm , I guess noone would appear that bright

You, good sir, are the ripest fruit on the vine of stupidity.

Rows over squats and DL's? I'd like to see that choice defended.

 

[gjohnson5]

yep , that idiot farm is taking it's toll... Asking for rowing information on in a weight lifting forum makes a whole lot of sense as well. The effects must be rubbing off..... Anyway, having tried competitive rowing myself , I know that it is difficult

Makes sense.

You, good sir, are the ripest fruit on the vine of stupidity.

Rows over squats and DL's? I'd like to see that choice defended.

Anyway
http://www.googobits.com/articles/2774-rowing-machines--a-cardio-workout-and-competitive-fun.html

 

[Guinness5.0]

I think it's clear that the thrust of the discussion is weighlifting exercises, not cardio. This is the weightlifting forum, after all. Granted, the subject header does not spell it out for you but the poll choices should have made it clear as day.

The farm analogy backfired heartily on you. You would do best by exiting this discussion gracefully before the superiority of my wit overwhelms you further. Or you could bloom another gem such as:

Asking for rowing information on in a weight lifting forum makes a whole lot of sense as well.

I missed the part where anyone asked about rowing, other than the freeweight version.

 

[gjohnson5]

LOL!!!!

If you want to call rowing 100% cardio for the sake of a failed argument , then I guess that's on you.

The title of this discussion says "physique altering exercises" So to step into the idiot farm with you, how do you come to the conclusion that the only physique altering exercises are anaerobic making the screwy assumption that rowing is 100% cardio???

That superior wit is really helping you

I think it's clear that the thrust of the discussion is weighlifting exercises, not cardio. This is the weightlifting forum, after all. Granted, the subject header does not spell it out for you but the poll choices should have made it clear as day.

The farm analogy backfired heartily on you. You would do best by exiting this discussion gracefully before the superiority of my wit overwhelms you further. Or you could bloom another gem such as:

I missed the part where anyone asked about rowing, other than the freeweight version.

 

[gjohnson5]

This is like arguing with someone with Alzheimers. You contradict everything you say just trying to make an argument

Rows over squats and DL's? I'd like to see that choice defended.

I missed the part where anyone asked about rowing, other than the freeweight version.

 

[Guinness5.0]

Reading comprehension is not your thing. Low ACT scores, eh?

We are in the 'Weight Training and Weight Lifting sponsored by D-Blade.com' forum, and not the 'Whatever the Hell Topic Gjohnson5 Wants to Twist the Conversation In To Because He Bought a Flashy Title For Himself' forum.

If you can find one mention of the rowing you speak of as a weight lifting exercise, I'd like to see it.

Keep digging, pal. The bottom's getting closer.

 

[gjohnson5]

Anyway to step out of the idiot farm...

I picked rowing BECAUSE it has an aerobic element (a large part of it) and an anaerobic element. In terms of physique altering effectiveness (making the assumption you mean positive results) , if you are eating way above your metabolic rate and you are resting alot between sets , squats and deadlift WON'T be the most effective exercise. If squats are done with lower weight, higher reps and little rest between sets, then squats can become very intense. But that would make squats more aerobic woulnd't it???

 

[medical]

Extreme long-distance running! That shit will alter the HELL out of your physique!

 

[gjohnson5]

Dude , you just need to accept the fact that threads don't always get posted in the correct forum , instead of continuing this nonsense...

Reading comprehension is not your thing. Low ACT scores, eh?

We are in the 'Weight Training and Weight Lifting sponsored by D-Blade.com' forum, and not the 'Whatever the Hell Topic Gjohnson5 Wants to Twist the Conversation In To Because He Bought a Flashy Title For Himself' forum.

If you can find one mention of the rowing you speak of as a weight lifting exercise, I'd like to see it.

Keep digging, pal. The bottom's getting closer.

 

[Guinness5.0]

Show me where this poll/thread is intended to mean anything other than weight lifting. I'll save you the trouble -you can't.

 

[Guinness5.0]

Dude , you just need to accept the fact that threads don't always get posted in the correct forum , instead of continuing this nonsense...

A poll about weight lifting exercises in the weight training forum seems appropriate to me. What other forum would be a better match for this thread???

 

[gjohnson5]

I agree , it really depends on what you mean by physique altering. The goals of the athlete may be to be 350lb while ignoring bodyfat....

Extreme long-distance running! That shit will alter the HELL out of your physique!

 

[gjohnson5]

God what a waste of my time dealign with this....

If the goal of the athlete is t obe a powerlifter , then this could have been posted in the powerlifting board

If the goal of the athlete is fat burning then this could have been in the cardio board.

If the goal of the athlete is to be better at his sport , then this could be in the sports forum

It's just idiotic to assume that "physique altering exercises" means only weight lifting.

A poll about weight lifting exercises in the weight training forum seems appropriate to me. What other forum would be a better match for this thread???

 

[Guinness5.0]

It's just idiotic to assume that "physique altering exercises" means only weight lifting.

There is no assumption. Please review the choices listed in the poll. Then admit that you were wrong. There -- doesn't that feel better? It's freeing, isn't it?

You will not win this argument. You are clearly wrong; it's plain to see. Re-read this thread and it may sink in to that little walnut-sized brain that's rattling around in your skull.

Keep up the arguing. It's rather comical to see your stupidity on display. I've never seen anything quite like it (other than waynelucky on bodybuilding.com, of course).

 

[Island Son]

Squat. My pants don't fit anymore, but all the shirts are fine.

 

[al420]

If you are eating way above your metabolic rate and you are resting alot between sets , squats and deadlift WON'T be the most effective exercise. If squats are done with lower weight, higher reps and little rest between sets, then squats can become very intense. But that would make squats more aerobic woulnd't it???

I just puked, cried a little, and now I am going to take a nap.

 

[crazycarwes]

Squat. My pants don't fit anymore, but all the shirts are fine.

Hahaha from incorporating the oly lifts my pants nor shirts fit anymore. But that is more from obscene food intake more than the excercise choice.

 

[gjohnson5]

LOL , I've found that these pancreatin pills really break down food fast. I think this is the most potent pancreatin on the market.

http://www.epinions.com/pr-Sports_Nutrition-Twinlab_Pancreatin

I eat 2 of these pills and some GNC betaine hydrochloride pills with a full meal and the meal is broken down in like 20 minutes


I would definitly do that if you eat a meal before squat day

I just puked, cried a little, and now I am going to take a nap.

 

[NJL52]

Either Bicep ISOs or Tricep push downs. I do them 3 times a week and my arms look like Superman.

 

[youngguns]

wrist curls

 

[enigma4dub]

LOL!!!!! The only thing missing from this thread is an Anthrax Invasion smackdown, errrr.... lone trooper . It seems like the intended question in this pole is a loaded one. However, if forced to make a choice I understand G5's dilemma.

Most of us understand caloric surplus and frequency, along with progression in the big lifts, is the key to developing a powerful physique. If asked to pick one lift and only one lift I THINK THE CONSENSUS IS OLY SQUATS.

With everything I've said as a prerequisite, I'd like to add that I am a big time backer of overhead lifting. The effect its had on my upper body is quite obvious. This doesnt mean I pick this over the other excercises. Only that I believe overhead shouldnt be neglected and for that matter neither should pulling from the floor or squating.

 

[gjohnson5]

Well , If I'm a powerlifter I might say clean and jerk....
But this was my point. I don't believe there is a one size fits all answer to the question.

LOL!!!!! The only thing missing from this thread is an Anthrax Invasion smackdown, errrr.... lone trooper . It seems like the intended question in this pole is a loaded one. However, if forced to make a choice I understand G5's dilemma.

Most of us understand caloric surplus and frequency, along with progression in the big lifts, is the key to developing a powerful physique. If asked to pick one lift and only one lift I THINK THE CONSENSUS IS OLY SQUATS.

With everything I've said as a prerequisite, I'd like to add that I am a big time backer of overhead lifting. The effect its had on my upper body is quite obvious. This doesnt mean I pick this over the other excercises. Only that I believe overhead shouldnt be neglected and for that matter neither should pulling from the floor or squating.

 

[Cynical Simian]

Well , If I'm a powerlifter I might say clean and jerk....

C&J is an Olympic lift, not one of the contested PL lifts.

 

[gjohnson5]

It does have an "other" choice up there...

C&J is an Olympic lift, not one of the contested PL lifts.

 

[Cynical Simian]

It does have an "other" choice up there...

I was referring to the "if I'm a powerlifter" part of your post, not the poll.

 

[anotherbutters]

lol at gjohnson being owned twice in one thread.

 

[Guinness5.0]

lol at gjohnson being owned twice in one thread.

gjohnson post = gjohnson pwn'd.

He's hit bottom and is starting to dig

 

[al420]

I was referring to the "if I'm a powerlifter" part of your post, not the poll.

Which he is deff. not

 

[Protobuilder]

Hey! You guys are having fun w/out me. I didn't click on this thread b/c I hate polls but this one is pretty entertaining. I'd have to agree w/ the poster who said extreme distance running. Definitely the most transforming weight training exercise. LoL

 

[ErikZ]

Guys, I forgot to mention that food intake and all the other variables remain the same

 

[Assertive Guy]

I go with chins and pull-ups. They are what give the 'wings' and 'V-taper' look, and for someone who started out tiny, they are what count.

 

[silver_shadow]

wow this thread drifted toiletwards rather soon.

i'll go for deads... simply because there isn't a WEIGHTLIFTING exercise amongst those listed (excluding "others" lol) that involves more muscle groups than deads - hence potential intensity (amount of weight moved in a single rep) and hence effect on the physique.

AND, another awesom thing about deads is if you use low weight for many reps, lowering time between sets and rep tempo, then you have an excellent cardio workout too.

PS: where is legion kreinak alias tommy t alias anthrax invasion alias lone trooper

 

[mekannik]

I'll throw in a vote for military press. Looking at the question, it is about physique altering, not strength, so I picked this one.

When a person develops a wicked set of delts it is very visible to even non-weight trainers. In a shirt, a tank, on the beach. Combined with tight abs makes for a good V shape.

Hate to agree with a conservative Republican - but he has a point. Even in a shirt, broad shoulders with well developed delts stand out. The appearance of strength is magnified by the shoulder girdle.

Back development is nice to have, but is harder to appreciate unless the person does not have a shirt on or has oly lift built traps.

 

[ErikZ]

Maybe this thread wasn't a good idea after all... right silver
"You cannot give Silver_shadow K before spreading bla bla bla"

 

[Cynical Simian]

Maybe this thread wasn't a good idea after all... right silver

Didn't sarge and I make this point back on page 1?

 

[ErikZ]

CS, cut me some slack man... I thought it would be an entertaining, constructive thread
You know me, I am not the one who usually start crappy threads... am I?

 

[coolcolj]

good mornings for me, man they will work some miracles to the whole backside of your body

if you could do narrow stance goodmorning with 500lbs for reps, I'd bet you'd be freakishly explosive and strong

 

[mad_monkey59]

I would say neither squats or deadlifting. I would say the rowing would hit all muscle groups of the body

An interesting choice.

Exercise is a rather ambiguous word as it can be applied in many contexts; lifts would have been better. If one decides to take this particular path then by far the most physique altering exercise is eating; eating will have a bigger impact on your physique then any other single cardio or compound movement. Furthermore, if one does not eat, any amount of rowing, squating and long distance running will be a waste of time similar to that of having to reply to such an ambiguous and opaque thread.

Let us give GJohnson the benefit of the doubt that his intention was to infact play devils advocate and make people pay more attention to the wording of the question, as opposed to a letting the discussion sink into a squat Vs Deadlifting thread; which - lets face it - was a matter of time.

However, since the thread is indeed in the Weightlifting area, then it is far enough to say that the term 'exercise' is meant in a 'lifting' context over any other. I which case we would do well to recognise this, rather then letting the thread turn into a rather pretentious, and pointless point scoring opportunity.

My vote goes to Squats, in my opinion they form the core of any 'physique changing' routine.

 

[B0ARDIN087]

is this a sticky, its on teh first page and yet it hasnt been responded to in two years. But Im going to say deadlift for me...
when i started deadlifting within one month my bi's grew, my back grew, my legs grew, my ass grew, abs grew, traps EXPLODED, delts grew, I mean i didnt even realize that i used half of the muscles that grew.... but my body REALLY responded to having to deadlift alot of weight, wierd but awesome....


squats helped my lower body but i believe upper body makes ur physique look alot more different then lower body to the average person.

 

[girmarcus]

Cleans the most powerful, full body workout in the gym, hence why you rarely see anyone doing them

 

[girmarcus]

There are different types of cleans however "hang cleans" are the best, if you just do this everyother day you will get strong, fast and ripped

 

[ExtraMile]

90 degree rowing will give you an overall thick back, bigger shoulders, thick forearms and big biceps, it will strengthen your core which if your cut will make your abs bigger/more defined, it will also give you better hip and glute stability....

 

[the_alcatraz]

lol....this was bumped by a poll vote

 

[AEKDB]

Since this thread is alive again...

Cleans are good but, given someone who trains like a BB or a power-lifter (i.e., not a pro), heavy snatch training will likely have the largest impact.