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f this thread, I got suckered too.

I would have been on top of it, then samoth and I would make engineering/physics jokes.
 
FUCK YOU JUICED MULLET!
A CONVERSATION WITH MYSELF ON PHYSICS JUST TO ANNOY YOU

OK, lets see M theory, postulates that all matter and energy is composed of excruciatingly minute filaments called strings and membranous entities called branes. If such objects exist, then every point in our apparently four-dimensional universe is a tiny volume with six or seven extra dimensions.

Ehh... depends on reference frame.. points and volumes are different... I'm not sure how they define the "limit", or if they are even close to it. There comes a point where a point cannot be a volume, yet many classify volumes as points for simplifications in the mathematics.

Those volumes are so small, the theory holds, that 10 trillion trillion of them could fit into the space occupied by a single atom. Unfortunately, that tininess would make these dimensions undetectable with current methods.

They would never be detectable, much like we could never detect some theorized particles with current model accelerators, as they would take the energy equivalant of a Dyson Sphere.

a few years aago theorists came up somesort ofa bold proposal. Perhaps some of those extra dimensions weren't so tightly confined. Given that no experimental evidence precluded the possibility, an extra dimension might be even as relatively huge as a millimeter in radius, or roughly the size of a poppy seed, right
well in this new hypothesis not theory :) of so-called large extra dimensions resides a possible solution to a long-standing puzzle: Why is gravity so much weaker than the other forces? it was in the hypothesis that raises the crazy possibility of wee black holes like right here around us or near . It's all a matter of how minutely scientists examine gravity.

Bringing black hole theory into it... black holes radiate. We can detect that radiation.

electromagnetism and the weak and strong forces are comparable in strength to each other, they are as much more powerful than gravity as a mountain is larger than one of those fantastically teeny extra dimensions of string theory.

It's a matter of defining "strength". There's a variable -- I forget what it is -- that is different for each force, and can compare relative strengths. But relatively speaking in different relative terms, gravity is considered the strongest force -- but also the weakest. LOL. EM, strong, and weak nuclear forces are worthless at an inch apart -- not strong. But gravity, though not strong in general, is not worthless at an inch -- it's strong. Meh. You get the idea.

so to bridge that gap say that not only are there large extra dimensions but that gravity is the only force that permeates all the dimensions. Consequently, gravity is not really so weak," that we feel it so weakly because gravity actually lives in many dimensions. . . . Gravity is diluted by this enormous extra space that we don't feel.

Conversely, at length scales not much smaller than the poppy-seed-span of the proposed, relatively large extra dimensions, gravity would operate at a strength comparable to those of the other forces,
In other words, gravity would become a real brute within those very confined boundaries of the extra dimensions. That enormously amplified strength—normally hidden to our four-dimensional view—could scrunch matter and energy into minuscule black holes.

I think the larger-sized thing wouldn't hold, for 1) a mm diameter would radiate or otherwise give evidence of it's existance, 2) in terms of particle physics, something so monsterous as a mm diameter would never, never, NEVER be able to be detected by the HUGEST, most biggest largest giganticest accelerators in the whole universe, lol. That's almost at energy levels within the first second of the big bang, and even the highest Dyson-classification of sentient beings couldn't generate the energy needed to create that kind of stuff in a lab.

IT's interesting, though, I've never ehard that one. Unfortunetly, anything on this subject getting down to our level is really obfuscated and lacking it's true fundamentals.

That's why it's hard to discuss the subject at this level, because we don't have the knowledge or ability to express or argue the fundamentals of the theories, as they are so far hidden beneath the masses of mathematics comprehendable by only the best of the best. The theory you just stated could have substantial truths to it, but they couldn't express them in laymens terms, so it gets lost in the translation. Likewise, I can only argue what I know on the level it's been presented to me -- not in it's comprehensive entirety.
 
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When considering the behaviour of a howitzer:

A mathematician will be able to calculate where the shell will land.

A physicist will be able to explain how the shell gets there.

An engineer will stand there and try to catch it.



:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:



:cow:
 
BrothaBill said:
FUCK YOU JUICED MULLET!
A CONVERSATION WITH MYSELF ON PHYSICS JUST TO ANNOY YOU

OK, lets see M theory, postulates that all matter and energy is composed of excruciatingly minute filaments called strings and membranous entities called branes. If such objects exist, then every point in our apparently four-dimensional universe is a tiny volume with six or seven extra dimensions.

Ehh... depends on reference frame.. points and volumes are different... I'm not sure how they define the "limit", or if they are even close to it. There comes a point where a point cannot be a volume, yet many classify volumes as points for simplifications in the mathematics.

Those volumes are so small, the theory holds, that 10 trillion trillion of them could fit into the space occupied by a single atom. Unfortunately, that tininess would make these dimensions undetectable with current methods.

They would never be detectable, much like we could never detect some theorized particles with current model accelerators, as they would take the energy equivalant of a Dyson Sphere.

a few years aago theorists came up somesort ofa bold proposal. Perhaps some of those extra dimensions weren't so tightly confined. Given that no experimental evidence precluded the possibility, an extra dimension might be even as relatively huge as a millimeter in radius, or roughly the size of a poppy seed, right
well in this new hypothesis not theory :) of so-called large extra dimensions resides a possible solution to a long-standing puzzle: Why is gravity so much weaker than the other forces? it was in the hypothesis that raises the crazy possibility of wee black holes like right here around us or near . It's all a matter of how minutely scientists examine gravity.

Bringing black hole theory into it... black holes radiate. We can detect that radiation.

electromagnetism and the weak and strong forces are comparable in strength to each other, they are as much more powerful than gravity as a mountain is larger than one of those fantastically teeny extra dimensions of string theory.

It's a matter of defining "strength". There's a variable -- I forget what it is -- that is different for each force, and can compare relative strengths. But relatively speaking in different relative terms, gravity is considered the strongest force -- but also the weakest. LOL. EM, strong, and weak nuclear forces are worthless at an inch apart -- not strong. But gravity, though not strong in general, is not worthless at an inch -- it's strong. Meh. You get the idea.

so to bridge that gap say that not only are there large extra dimensions but that gravity is the only force that permeates all the dimensions. Consequently, gravity is not really so weak," that we feel it so weakly because gravity actually lives in many dimensions. . . . Gravity is diluted by this enormous extra space that we don't feel.

Conversely, at length scales not much smaller than the poppy-seed-span of the proposed, relatively large extra dimensions, gravity would operate at a strength comparable to those of the other forces,
In other words, gravity would become a real brute within those very confined boundaries of the extra dimensions. That enormously amplified strength—normally hidden to our four-dimensional view—could scrunch matter and energy into minuscule black holes.

I think the larger-sized thing wouldn't hold, for 1) a mm diameter would radiate or otherwise give evidence of it's existance, 2) in terms of particle physics, something so monsterous as a mm diameter would never, never, NEVER be able to be detected by the HUGEST, most biggest largest giganticest accelerators in the whole universe, lol. That's almost at energy levels within the first second of the big bang, and even the highest Dyson-classification of sentient beings couldn't generate the energy needed to create that kind of stuff in a lab.

IT's interesting, though, I've never ehard that one. Unfortunetly, anything on this subject getting down to our level is really obfuscated and lacking it's true fundamentals.

That's why it's hard to discuss the subject at this level, because we don't have the knowledge or ability to express or argue the fundamentals of the theories, as they are so far hidden beneath the masses of mathematics comprehendable by only the best of the best. The theory you just stated could have substantial truths to it, but they couldn't express them in laymens terms, so it gets lost in the translation. Likewise, I can only argue what I know on the level it's been presented to me -- not in it's comprehensive entirety.

:cow:[/QUOTE]


i took some LSD, DXM, Neurogenex, did three lines, and took some conserta.

i still dont understand that.
 
juicedmohawk said:
i took some LSD, DXM, Neurogenex, did three lines, and took some conserta.

i still dont understand that.


Up the Conserta. Make sure lines are pure, at least 98%. Smoke about two or three hits of DMT, making sure to hold it in for 45-60 seconds. Add 150 mg Adderal IR, via insufflation. Make sure to have nolvadex on hand just in case.
 
What is the difference between a physicist, an engineer, and a mathematician?

If an engineer walks into a room and sees a fire in the middle and a bucket of water in the corner, he takes the bucket of water and pours it on the fire and puts it out.

If a physicist walks into a room and sees a fire in the middle and a bucket of water in the corner, he takes the bucket of water and pours it eloquently around the fire and lets the fire put itself out.

If a mathematician walks into a room and sees a fire in the middle and a bucket of water in the corner, he convinces himself there is a solution and leaves.
 
A psychologist makes an experiment with a mathematician and a physicist. He puts a good-looking, naked woman in a bed in one corner of the room and the mathematician on a chair in another one, and tells him: 'I´ll half the distance between you and the woman every five minutes, and you´re not allowed to stand up.' the mathematician runs away, yelling: 'in that case, I´ll never get to this woman!'. After that, the psychologist takes the physicist and tells him the plan. The physicist starts grinning. the psychologist asks him: 'but you´ll never get to this woman?', the physicists tells him: 'sure, but for all practical things this is a good approximation.'
 
The Board of Trustees, not convinced by the performance in a previous joke,
decides to test the Profs. again. First they take a Math Prof. and put him
in a room. Now, the room contains a table and three metal spheres about the
size of softballs. They tell him to do whatever he want with the balls and
the table in one hour. After an hour, he comes out and the Trustees look in
and the balls are arranges in a triangle at the center of the table.

Next, they give the same test to a Physics Prof. After an hour, they look
in, and the balls are stacked one on top of the other in the center of the
table.

Finally, the give the test to an Engineering Prof. After an hour, they look
in and one of the balls is broken, one is missing, and he's carrying the
third out in his lunchbox.



Engineers getting pwned here, lol.
 
Engg's continuing to get pwned... lol...


In some foreign country a priest, a lawyer and an engineer are about to be guillotined. The priest puts his head on the block, they pull the rope and nothing happens -- he declares that he's been saved by divine intervention -- so he's let go. The lawyer is put on the block, and again the rope doesn't release the blade, he claims he can't be executed twice for the same crime and he is set free too. They grab the engineer and shove his head into the guillotine, he looks up at the release mechanism and says, "Wait a minute, I see your problem......"
 
samoth said:
Up the Conserta. Make sure lines are pure, at least 98%. Smoke about two or three hits of DMT, making sure to hold it in for 45-60 seconds. Add 150 mg Adderal IR, via insufflation. Make sure to have nolvadex on hand just in case.


No Brothabill, hold the Adderal and go straight to the DXM and Shrooms, THEN after 1.5 hours, take the DMT (Dimethyltryptaline) that you extracted from the mimosa hostilis rootbark. Use a DMT pipe and inhale deeply and then hold it in, do all with in a minute so that super tolerance doesnt affect your receptors.
Add a can of nitrous from a whip cream can, then take the Adderal and wash it down with a big glass of homebrewed ayahuasca. Meet the string and brain aliens on Plateau Sigma, past the fourth plateau
 
UA_Iron said:
The physicist starts grinning. the psychologist asks him: 'but you´ll never get to this woman?', the physicists tells him: 'sure, but for all practical things this is a good approximation.'


lol, how true.



:cow:
 
A neutron walks into a bar; he asks the bartender, 'How much for a beer?' The bartender looks at him, and says 'For you, no charge.'

There is this farmer who is having problems with his chickens. All of the sudden, they are all getting very sick and he doesn't know what is wrong with them. After trying all conventional means, he calls a biologist, a chemist, and a physicist to see if they can figure out what is wrong. So the biologist looks at the chickens, examines them a bit, and says he has no clue what could be wrong with them. Then the chemist takes some tests and makes some measurements, but he can't come to any conclusions either. So the physicist tries. He stands there and looks at the chickens for a long time without touching them or anything. Then all of the sudden he starts scribbling away in a notebook. Finally, after several gruesome calculations, he exclaims, 'I've got it! But it only works for spherical chickens in a vacuum.'

Q: Two cats are on a roof. Which slides off first?
A: The one with the smaller mew

What is mind? No matter.
What is matter? Never mind.
 
samoth said:
Engg's continuing to get pwned... lol...


In some foreign country a priest, a lawyer and an engineer are about to be guillotined. The priest puts his head on the block, they pull the rope and nothing happens -- he declares that he's been saved by divine intervention -- so he's let go. The lawyer is put on the block, and again the rope doesn't release the blade, he claims he can't be executed twice for the same crime and he is set free too. They grab the engineer and shove his head into the guillotine, he looks up at the release mechanism and says, "Wait a minute, I see your problem......"


Geez 4:10 for both posts, SamoteBB, are you in the computer lab again
 
BrothaBill said:
No Brothabill, hold the Adderal and go straight to the DXM and Shrooms, THEN after 1.5 hours, take the DMT (Dimethyltryptaline) that you extracted from the mimosa hostilis rootbark. Use a DMT pipe and inhale deeply and then hold it in, do all with in a minute so that super tolerance doesnt affect your receptors.
Add a can of nitrous from a whip cream can, then take the Adderal and wash it down with a big glass of homebrewed ayahuasca. Meet the string and brain aliens on Plateau Sigma, past the fourth plateau

Remember Samoth, eat LOTS of red meat, drink alcohol, lots of Tamasic foods. Try to get grounded. The quotidian banality of three dimensions can be a sane human's best friend.
 
UA_Iron said:
A neutron walks into a bar; he asks the bartender, 'How much for a beer?' The bartender looks at him, and says 'For you, no charge.'


Two neutrinoes go thru a bar...
 
engineers will rule the world

we'll ask the engineering math people for math questions and the engineering physics people for physics questions.

There's no need for plain math or physics majors anymore.
 
samoth said:
Remember Samoth, eat LOTS of red meat, drink alcohol, lots of Tamasic foods. Try to get grounded. The quotidian banality of three dimensions can be a sane human's best friend.


Yes, BrothaBill, its all included in the rest of the steps of your herbal tea

Drink it up, retch...

9. Retch some more.

10. Try to regain your composure and balance after dry-heaving.

11. Lie back and listen to some didgeridoo music.
Begin to think you're dying, being devoured to the clean-picked bone by a school of rainbow piranhas, submerged in the hell-realms suffering brutal tortures and repeated dismemberment at the teeth and claws of the blood-dripping minions of Lord Yama and various ferocious Mezoamerican deities like Tezcatlipoca simultaneously.

12. Experience a complete and utter ontological meltdown at the face of imminent death. Recognize if the 'huasca kills you now you'll be caught in one of the hell-bardos for a minor eternity due to your accumulated bad karma. Keep repeating your name to remind yourself that you have a body. Shower repeatedly to wash away the overwhelming forces of evil fighting over your soul ĂŁ in between rounds of projectile diarrhea. Marvel at just how full of shit you are.

13. Panic, but try to remind yourself that time is your ally, even though each moment seems like an eternity of suffering. Remember that"this too shall pass." Believe this with the greatest skepticism.
Continue this way for several hours, wondering all along if you'll actually be able to come out of the hell-worlds intact.

14. Wake up the following morning, swearing off psychedelics for at least a very long while, still fearful of inadvertently re-invoking this terrifying state of consciousness.

15. Go to bed the following night and reexperience this realm of consciousness during the hypnagogic state and nearly die of fright that you'll wind up in an ontological cul-de-sac someplace, dribbling down your chin until your time is up.

16. Eat LOTS of red meat, drink alcohol, lots of Tamasic foods. Try to get grounded. The quotidian banality of three dimensions can be a sane human's best friend.

17. Finally, several weeks later, look back on the experience without feeling a lingering sense of terror.
Begin to regain some perspective. Consider trying 'la purga' again under the supervision of a very experienced shaman able to help those less experienced to finally conquer these treacherous realms (as must ultimately be done). One must go into the breach again to be fully cured.

18. Maintain a VERY HEALTHY respect for the Vine of the Soul, recognizing that it can kill, regardless of what they say about tryptamine neurotoxicity. The tryptamines won't kill you; the heart-stoppage from unmitigated terror can, though.
 
UA_Iron said:
engineers will rule the world

we'll ask the engineering math people for math questions and the engineering physics people for physics questions.

There's no need for plain math or physics majors anymore.


Just wait, the theorists are gonna come and kick your ass one day!!
 
samoth said:
Just wait, the theorists are gonna come and kick your ass one day!!

thats only theoretical

lets get some more practicality in this discussion.
 
BrothaBill said:
FUCK YOU JUICED MULLET!
A CONVERSATION WITH MYSELF ON PHYSICS JUST TO ANNOY YOU

OK, lets see M theory, postulates that all matter and energy is composed of excruciatingly minute filaments called strings and membranous entities called branes. If such objects exist, then every point in our apparently four-dimensional universe is a tiny volume with six or seven extra dimensions.

Ehh... depends on reference frame.. points and volumes are different... I'm not sure how they define the "limit", or if they are even close to it. There comes a point where a point cannot be a volume, yet many classify volumes as points for simplifications in the mathematics.

Those volumes are so small, the theory holds, that 10 trillion trillion of them could fit into the space occupied by a single atom. Unfortunately, that tininess would make these dimensions undetectable with current methods.

They would never be detectable, much like we could never detect some theorized particles with current model accelerators, as they would take the energy equivalant of a Dyson Sphere.

a few years aago theorists came up somesort ofa bold proposal. Perhaps some of those extra dimensions weren't so tightly confined. Given that no experimental evidence precluded the possibility, an extra dimension might be even as relatively huge as a millimeter in radius, or roughly the size of a poppy seed, right
well in this new hypothesis not theory :) of so-called large extra dimensions resides a possible solution to a long-standing puzzle: Why is gravity so much weaker than the other forces? it was in the hypothesis that raises the crazy possibility of wee black holes like right here around us or near . It's all a matter of how minutely scientists examine gravity.

Bringing black hole theory into it... black holes radiate. We can detect that radiation.

electromagnetism and the weak and strong forces are comparable in strength to each other, they are as much more powerful than gravity as a mountain is larger than one of those fantastically teeny extra dimensions of string theory.

It's a matter of defining "strength". There's a variable -- I forget what it is -- that is different for each force, and can compare relative strengths. But relatively speaking in different relative terms, gravity is considered the strongest force -- but also the weakest. LOL. EM, strong, and weak nuclear forces are worthless at an inch apart -- not strong. But gravity, though not strong in general, is not worthless at an inch -- it's strong. Meh. You get the idea.

so to bridge that gap say that not only are there large extra dimensions but that gravity is the only force that permeates all the dimensions. Consequently, gravity is not really so weak," that we feel it so weakly because gravity actually lives in many dimensions. . . . Gravity is diluted by this enormous extra space that we don't feel.

Conversely, at length scales not much smaller than the poppy-seed-span of the proposed, relatively large extra dimensions, gravity would operate at a strength comparable to those of the other forces,
In other words, gravity would become a real brute within those very confined boundaries of the extra dimensions. That enormously amplified strength—normally hidden to our four-dimensional view—could scrunch matter and energy into minuscule black holes.

I think the larger-sized thing wouldn't hold, for 1) a mm diameter would radiate or otherwise give evidence of it's existance, 2) in terms of particle physics, something so monsterous as a mm diameter would never, never, NEVER be able to be detected by the HUGEST, most biggest largest giganticest accelerators in the whole universe, lol. That's almost at energy levels within the first second of the big bang, and even the highest Dyson-classification of sentient beings couldn't generate the energy needed to create that kind of stuff in a lab.

IT's interesting, though, I've never ehard that one. Unfortunetly, anything on this subject getting down to our level is really obfuscated and lacking it's true fundamentals.

That's why it's hard to discuss the subject at this level, because we don't have the knowledge or ability to express or argue the fundamentals of the theories, as they are so far hidden beneath the masses of mathematics comprehendable by only the best of the best. The theory you just stated could have substantial truths to it, but they couldn't express them in laymens terms, so it gets lost in the translation. Likewise, I can only argue what I know on the level it's been presented to me -- not in it's comprehensive entirety.

:cow:


Yeah, I hear ya on that, cant even come near proving any of that stuff.
Really a lot of that stuff that I talk about I am very weak to describe or to actually really recall. When I was in the string(or so I thought at the time) realm with the entities they told me alot of stuff and it had no basis with current research and experimental limits.

Just that meeting with these entities they told me secrets of the universe not as theories but as truths. This is how it works point of teaching the information with a whole lot confidence LOL. I mean I never really discussed or studied this stuff except for some classes in Univ. so I am somewhat limited in what current theory or limitations would prevent the understanding of it.

All I know really is what these "aliens" told me, although this case it was aliens, they were the strings and branes, they sentient, super intelligent creatures, yet very curious as to how I made it into their realm and seem to try and comfort and teach me everything. It all made sense at the time. Everything was just implanted into my head. Trillions of thoughts, I was learning at an exponential rate. Sadly, those thoughts didnt last long at all. And I can only remember this as general concepts with virtually all of the important details missing.

It wasnt so much as the knowledge gift that they were giving but also the experience. Like I said they were of the most beautiful color of green and they would stretch and there was this sound of them stretching and moving that Ive never heard before.

Well, of course this could all be a hallucination, but it seemed realer than realer as my cognitive function remained intact and I was taught things that I had never ever heard or studied before. WHich sorta is freaky that you can come up with new hypothesis just out of the air like what happened. Hell I forgot all of the important details just left with some peace as to that I learned the secrets of the universe.
Its been a long time since Ive gone to plateau sigma to have those experiences and who knows if Ill go back or even could go back. Perhaps thats it, my one shot to learn it all. LOL
I swear though, I was given fantastical ideas and explanations and if it was my brain creating this knowledge then, I guess Im pretty darn smart especially since its so far removed from my expertise.
Weird isnt JuicedMullet you piece of shit!!!



:cow:
 
samoth said:


OK, lets see M theory, postulates that all matter and energy is composed of excruciatingly minute filaments called strings and membranous entities called branes. If such objects exist, then every point in our apparently four-dimensional universe is a tiny volume with six or seven extra dimensions.


Ehh... depends on reference frame.. points and volumes are different... I'm not sure how they define the "limit", or if they are even close to it. There comes a point where a point cannot be a volume, yet many classify volumes as points for simplifications in the mathematics.

It may sound like science fiction, but the notion that we are living in a universe with extra, unseen dimensions has a long history in theoretical physics. Nearly 90 years ago, the Finnish physicist Gunnar Nordstrom introduced the idear of a fifth dimension as a way to better understand the then-new concept of four-dimensional space-time. A decade later, Swedish physicist Oskar Klein,,who drew on ideas from mathematician Theodor Kaluza of Germant..used the concept to unite the forces of electromagnetism and gravity within a single theory

The quest to unify the two forces became more complicated later in the century when scientists discovered two additional ones..the weak force, as you know governs the radioactive decay of atoms, and the strong force, which welds protons and neutrons into atomic nuclei.
Again as you know scientific interest in extra dimensions has surged as physicists developed what's now known as string theory. The M theory, postulates that all matter and energy is composed of excruciatingly minute filaments called strings and membranous entities called branes that I met and are a such highe power you cant imagine. For you, if such objects exist, then every point in our apparently four-dimensional universe is a tiny volume with six or seven extra dimensions


Those volumes are so small, the theory holds, that 10 trillion trillion of them could fit into the space occupied by a single atom. Unfortunately, that tininess would make these dimensions undetectable with current methods.

They would never be detectable, much like we could never detect some theorized particles with current model accelerators, as they would take the energy equivalant of a Dyson Sphere.

a few years aago theorists came up somesort ofa bold proposal. Perhaps some of those extra dimensions weren't so tightly confined. Given that no experimental evidence precluded the possibility, an extra dimension might be even as relatively huge as a millimeter in radius, or roughly the size of a poppy seed, right
well in this new hypothesis not theory of so-called large extra dimensions resides a possible solution to a long-standing puzzle: Why is gravity so much weaker than the other forces? it was in the hypothesis that raises the crazy possibility of wee black holes like right here around us or near . It's all a matter of how minutely scientists examine gravity.

Bringing black hole theory into it... black holes radiate. We can detect that radiation.

Think of a black hole. No one has ever observed one directly, but chances are that you envision some gargantuan jet-black entity that's far, far away and insatiably consuming any matter or light that comes near it. Now think of the possibitliy of extremely tiny, lightweight versions of these exotic objects could be forming right over our heads when ultra-high-energy particles, cosmic rays, from space strike atoms or molecules in the atmosphere. The newly created black holes would then quickly decay, harmlessly raining subatomic particles down onto our planet and ourselves.
If it turns out to be true, it should or might lol, really MIGHT be possible to mass-produce black holes in particle colliders.
Which would be revolutionary in that because the discovery of tiny, local black holes would confirm one the mostly out there ideas and hyposthesises that we live in a universe with detectable dimensions beyond the three of space and one of time to which we're accustomed err…youre and virtually everyone else is accustomed to, not me
I know its crazy but they should start initially by searching for the distinctive particle showers that any miniature black holes in the atmosphere would trigger.
If that don’t work, they should try and use that huge new supercollider that they are building and start working I think I read in 2007, don’t rembember where though err wait, google lol, Switzerland, actually is that operational now? it’s the Hadron Collider in Geneva.


electromagnetism and the weak and strong forces are comparable in strength to each other, they are as much more powerful than gravity as a mountain is larger than one of those fantastically teeny extra dimensions of string theory.

It's a matter of defining "strength". There's a variable -- I forget what it is -- that is different for each force, and can compare relative strengths. But relatively speaking in different relative terms, gravity is considered the strongest force -- but also the weakest. LOL. EM, strong, and weak nuclear forces are worthless at an inch apart -- not strong. But gravity, though not strong in general, is not worthless at an inch -- it's strong. Meh. You get the idea.


so to bridge that gap say that not only are there large extra dimensions but that gravity is the only force that permeates all the dimensions. Consequently, gravity is not really so weak," that we feel it so weakly because gravity actually lives in many dimensions. . . . Gravity is diluted by this enormous extra space that we don't feel.

Conversely, at length scales not much smaller than the poppy-seed-span of the proposed, relatively large extra dimensions, gravity would operate at a strength comparable to those of the other forces,
In other words, gravity would become a real brute within those very confined boundaries of the extra dimensions. That enormously amplified strength..normally hidden to our four-dimensional view..could scrunch matter and energy into minuscule black holes.

I think the larger-sized thing wouldn't hold, for 1) a mm diameter would radiate or otherwise give evidence of it's existance, 2) in terms of particle physics, something so monsterous as a mm diameter would never, never, NEVER be able to be detected by the HUGEST, most biggest largest giganticest accelerators in the whole universe, lol. That's almost at energy levels within the first second of the big bang, and even the highest Dyson-classification of sentient beings couldn't generate the energy needed to create that kind of stuff in a lab.


Well, the prob you are thinking is that the existence of large extra dimensions doesn't jibe with certain findings in experimental physics and cosmology but there are various tricks and dodges you can try to explain that stuff I admit its but it's really difficult as Im sure you’ll tell me lol for instance, experimenters have found no evidence that protons can spontaneously decay. Yet the theory of large extra dimensions implies that such disintegrations would have been detected already, a disagreement because extra dimensions allow particles to interact with each other in novel ways, proton decay is definitely not an issue Although the large-extra-dimensions hypothesis may not provide an exact fit to everything known in physics, it does about as well as other theories on the cutting edge of particle physics, you cant arge you with that

A rule of thumb in particle physics, energies correspond to sizes...the smaller the dimension to be probed by smashing particles together the higher are the accelerator energies required. But the mathematics of the large-extra-dimensions hypothesis doesn't dictate exactly what size the surplus dimensions must be. So, if lets say you chose a size that loosely corresponds to a collision energy—roughly, a trillion electron volts..that particle colliders are just beginning to reach.
Without that choice comes the tantalizing possibility that only a small increase in sensitivity of certain experiments, or a modest boost in the energy level of others, might unveil a startlingly different realm of physics from the one we now know. The possibilities are endless. Were going to be seeing all sorts of stuff including the frequency aliens.
If black holes are in fact produced in future colliders, that would mean they also have been relentlessly zipping in and out of existence in the atmosphere for billions of years.

Most would be wowed by creating black holes in a collider But the possibility that cosmic-ray detectors might beat the Large Hadron Collider to the punchm, cosmic rays would produce a few atmospheric black holes somewhere in Earth's atmosphere every minute, that's enough for a vast, new cosmic-ray detector called the (google)Pierre Auger Observatory, which is now under construction in Argentina, to detect tens of black holes each year. Also I think that existing neutrino observatories also could serve as atmospheric black hole detectors.
So really is there that much evidence that cosmic black holes exist, I know that there has been much speculation and most believe it but, they can only infer the objects' existence from such evidence as motions of nearby stars and gas and the presence of jets of matter or radiation. there looms the possibility,that gravitational ripples in the fabric of space-time itself caused by enormous astronomical black holes may be recorded in the next few years by gravity-wave detectors. I was told that by the frequency aliens as I was shown the future, or rather one possible future as I told you before of infinite realities based on each possibility, infinity begets infinity, but that’s a whole other discussion as you know of the limit of that. And I shown what infinity meant. It was very scary what it was and it was truly frightening as I thought Id never get out of it.





IT's interesting, though, I've never ehard that one. Unfortunetly, anything on this subject getting down to our level is really obfuscated and lacking it's true fundamentals.


That's why it's hard to discuss the subject at this level, because we don't have the knowledge or ability to express or argue the fundamentals of the theories, as they are so far hidden beneath the masses of mathematics comprehendable by only the best of the best. The theory you just stated could have substantial truths to it, but they couldn't express them in laymens terms, so it gets lost in the translation. Likewise, I can only argue what I know on the level it's been presented to me -- not in it's comprehensive entirety.

Microscopic black holes would betray their presence in a different way. Despite the reputations of black holes for not letting even light escape (hence their blackness), a quirk of quantum mechanics as you know causes them to emit so-called Hawking radiation, which makes them evaporate, scientists say. What's more, this radiation intensifies as an evaporating black hole shrinks.
While a typical astronomical black hole would give off little illumination and only slowly evaporate, a microscopic black hole about 1,000 times the mass of a proton would appear and then blast apart in just 10–27 seconds—that's one-billionth of one-billionth of one
 
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The question was raised: "If a man alone in the woods speaks, and his
wife cannot hear him, is he still wrong?"
I have considered this question in light of the principles of Modern
Physics and offer my thesis.
In the year 1900 Max Planck discovered that the energy of light is
quantified. In 1905 Albert Einstein used Planck's Constant to write the
theory of the Photoelectric Effect, that light behaves as a particle
when it comes to energy transfer. Louis de Broglie proposed that
particles can have a wave nature and this fact was later verified.
These discoveries led Neils Bohr to propose a radical theory of the
atom, which was partially successful in explaining the emission spectra
of the hydrogen atom. Neils Bohr was compelled to introduce the
Principle of "Complementarity," that light is both a particle and a
wave.
The modern theories were extended when Max Born showed that the
distribution of energy was a function of probability. Further, Warner
Heisenberg wrote the Principle of Uncertainty, which says that it is
impossible to determine the exact location of an electron and the vector
direction of its momentum at the same time.
This was followed with the master stroke penned by Erwin Schrodinger.
Using the "Psi function" of Quantum Mechanics, Schrodinger could map the
"wave field" of any particle, thus giving us a theoretical explanation
for the structure of an atom and the entire periodic table of the
elements.
The Quantum mechanics predicts that a wave of a single frequency would
stretch out to infinite proportions, the superposition of a narrow range
of frequencies produces a standing wave function which can be localized
to a much more precise location. Thus the electron and its position
within an atom becomes a cloud of probability.
From this I infer that there are such states as being right and being
wrong, within certain parameters of uncertainty. Applying the Psi
function, the more vague the statement of the man the greater the
probability of him being correct. The narrower and more specific his
utterance the greater the likelihood of his being wrong.
Also, the Principle of Complementarity assures us that if a man alone in
the woods speaks, and his wife can not hear him, he is BOTH right and
wrong until he comes out of the woods.
In the analogy of Schrodinger's Cat, the cat in the box is both dead and
alive until someone opens the lid. The act of observing the phenomenon
determines the outcome.
Thus, the inevitable conclusion is that it doesn't matter what the man
says only his wife can determine whether or not he is correct.
 
LOL, so there's a book called "Schrodinger's Rabbits" out now. They're takin this Schrodinger thing a bit too far. I should invest in a clothing line or something.


:cow:
 
all you fucking fucks. you can't phase me.

samote = poser

physics= made up

normal force = not really a force

the field = doesnt exist, only there to make equations make sense

strong force = yep, anothre thing we couldnt explain, had to make up a force for it

van der walls = see above

samote = :cow:
 
juicedmohawk said:
all you fucking fucks. you can't phase me, actually, yeah you can.

samote = more metal than you, or, alternately,
samote = alter, either way. But whose? Where's Nathan?

physics= not made up, STFU :doc: boy!

normal force = not really a force, WTF is "normal"?

the field = doesnt exist, only there to make equations make sense. Of course not, idiot, we're all a part of the ether. Duh.

strong force = yep, anothre thing we couldnt explain, had to make up a force for it. Strong force pwns the weak force.

van der walls = see above. WTF, if you don't know what this is, you must be a fucking chem major at a TTT.

samote = :cow:
juicypigentrails = :doc:



:cow:
 
samoth said:
:cow:
all you fucking fucks. you can't phase me, actually, yeah you can.

samote = more metal than you, or, alternately,
samote = alter, either way. But whose? Where's Nathan?

physics= not made up, STFU boy! you're right, Newton created the universe

normal force = not really a force, WTF is "normal"? the ''normal'' force

the field = doesnt exist, only there to make equations make sense. Of course not, idiot, we're all a part of the ether. Duh. my mistake, sigma plateau, here i come

strong force = yep, anothre thing we couldnt explain, had to make up a force for it. Strong force pwns the weak force.

van der walls = see above. WTF, if you don't know what this is, you must be a fucking chem major at a TTT. Like I said, made up to explain what was unexplainable at the time

samote = :doc:
juicypigentrails = :cow:

:qt:
 
can I get a rounf peg round hole here?
no BS about peg being larger tahn hole
got lube
 
juicedmohawk said:
Originally Posted by samoth

all you fucking fucks. you can't phase me, actually, yeah you can.

samote = more metal than you, or, alternately,
samote = alter, either way. But whose? Where's Nathan?

physics= not made up, STFU :doc: boy! you're right, Newton created the universe Who? People still talk about applehead boy?

normal force = not really a force, WTF is "normal"? the ''normal'' force what's "normal"? You mean orthogonal?

the field = doesnt exist, only there to make equations make sense. Of course not, idiot, we're all a part of the ether. Duh. my mistake, sigma plateau, here i come You're talking to the wrong alter, that's BB.

strong force = yep, anothre thing we couldnt explain, had to make up a force for it. Strong force pwns the weak force.

van der walls = see above. WTF, if you don't know what this is, you must be a fucking chem major at a TTT. Like I said, made up to explain what was unexplainable at the time.AT THE TIME! When, 1832? Go back to your TTT and suck on your mama's liddle buttermilk titties!

samote = :cow:
juicypigentrails = :qt: :rainbow:


I forgot what we were arging in the first place. Not that it matters or anything, FUCK YOU, JUICEDHAIRCUTNAME!!



:cow:
 
samoth said:
I forgot what we were arging in the first place. Not that it matters or anything, FUCK YOU, JUICEDHAIRCUTNAME!!



:cow:

hahaha.

Normal forces are a tool of convenience which makes it possible for us to use newtons laws.

Now stop being a douche and comply JUICEDHAIRCUTNAME or you will be brought down.
 
asik a quyestion
such as
tiem for MJ to disrobe,bathe and fondle
attach a formula
and ask for confirmation
samoth will interupt his studies and attack problem
 
4everhung said:
asik a quyestion
such as
tiem for MJ to disrobe,bathe and fondle
attach a formula
and ask for confirmation
samoth will interupt his studies and attack problem


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UA_Iron said:
hahaha.

Normal forces are a tool of convenience which makes it possible for us to use newtons laws.

Now stop being a douche and comply JUICEDHAIRCUTNAME or you will be brought down.


LOL@ tool of convenience!

kind of like the UA_Iron force: when UA_Iron enters the room, all girls are forced to leave in disgust.

Criteria for being a tool of convenience:

Tool = TRUE
Convenient= TRUE
 
juicedmohawk said:
LOL@ tool of convenience!

kind of like the UA_Iron force: when UA_Iron enters the room, all girls are forced to leave in disgust.

Criteria for being a tool of convenience:

Tool = TRUE
Convenient= TRUE

Got a girl coming over in 5 to get wasted with me, what have you got on that huh bitch!?
 
samoth said:
God DAMMIT!!


I forgot about this thread



and fell for it again :rolleyes:




:cow:

LOL, ours are always great, we had some good philosophical debates as you tried to pull it towards physics. Its funny, sharpens the mind, Id beat you if physics wasnt your specialty you cant touch me when it comes to the actual heart though and medicine lolol
 
samoth said:
When considering the behaviour of a howitzer:

A mathematician will be able to calculate where the shell will land.

A physicist will be able to explain how the shell gets there.

An engineer will stand there and try to catch it.



:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:



:cow:
a mechanical engineer,an electrical engineer and a civil engineer were discussing the nature of God.
the electrical engineer argued that God was most like an electrical engineer because of the electrical impulses involved with functioning the human body
the mechanical engineer argued that God was most likely a mechanical engineer due to the interworkings of the skeleton and musculature
finally the civil engineer pointed out that God was obviously a civil engineer because he placed a sewage pipe so close to a recreational area
 
I just totally slaughtered this test I had yesterday on Fourier Integrals, transforms, Laplace transforms and sine and cosine fourier series

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UA_Iron said:
I just totally slaughtered this test I had yesterday on Fourier Integrals, transforms, Laplace transforms and sine and cosine fourier series

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I have to bone up on the fast fourier analysis of Leftventricular so that I can actually see the calculations and so I can assess diastolic dysfunction in (filling pressure of the left ventricle) in assessing CHF(cardiac heart failure) so I can discuss it with him on an intelligent level, most docs dont use diastolic dysfxn, but he was chief of cardiology I think in, dang..I need to read his bio. Anyhow, Im rambling so I remember my studies this weekend, its to prepare a diastolic summary of CHF since its not a diagnosis but a symptom and how I will categorize my numbers as abnl or nl. THats what Im doing all weekend so that I can present it next week, no fourth off for me. I need to remember CHF is treated with betablockers for preload and diuretics for afterload to bring the BNP number down and the lil old ladies with swollen ankles in heart failure know how they should be treated. Abe Lincoln had CHF and Adolph Hitler had syphilis b/c of his heart murmur and enlarged aorta(syphlitic aortic aneurysm) wheww, train of thought still there. Long weekend a head writing this shit
 
luciasbrown said:
I have to bone up on the fast fourier analysis of Leftventricular so that I can actually see the calculations and so I can assess diastolic dysfunction in (filling pressure of the left ventricle) in assessing CHF(cardiac heart failure) so I can discuss it with him on an intelligent level, most docs dont use diastolic dysfxn, but he was chief of cardiology I think in, dang..I need to read his bio. Anyhow, Im rambling so I remember my studies this weekend, its to prepare a diastolic summary of CHF since its not a diagnosis but a symptom and how I will categorize my numbers as abnl or nl. THats what Im doing all weekend so that I can present it next week, no fourth off for me. I need to remember CHF is treated with betablockers for preload and diuretics for afterload to bring the BNP number down and the lil old ladies with swollen ankles in heart failure know how they should be treated. Abe Lincoln had CHF and Adolph Hitler had syphilis b/c of his heart murmur and enlarged aorta(syphlitic aortic aneurysm) wheww, train of thought still there. Long weekend a head writing this shit

they say hitler was a big fan of stimulants and amphetamines
 
UA_Iron said:
they say hitler was a big fan of stimulants and amphetamines

Drugs are bad mmkay, they dont work, he shoulda gone with the freaky metabolic advantage of the megabolus advantage that I suscribe to
 
Most high end Tektroniks and HP Storage oscilloscopes do fft's on the fly, you can do your ventricular analysis realtime.
 
Gambino said:
how many pocket protectors does samouth have?
btw, I first heard the word bolus used in anatomy and physiology to describe a "bolus" of feces as it passes the large intestine and out the anus.
Mega means fantastic, a million in latin or just large.
So to me, megabolus means a large, fantastic shit!!
 
redguru said:
Most high end Tektroniks and HP Storage oscilloscopes do fft's on the fly, you can do your ventricular analysis realtime.

lol, Ive never seen an old oscilloscope, I can see the ventricle on the screen using 2d ultrasound then take the filter and scales and gain way down and so your left with an E' number on the HP which is now owned by Phillips but I want to learn Dr O and strain rate like they have at GE, its all experimental stuff but should be the wave of the future. I just have to write it all out and present it this weekend and I just paid 300$ nextday air from amazon for some cardiology books so Im hoping I get that tomorrow. I want to have it all clear in my mind in one week on tissue doppler of myocardial cardiac tissue
 
luciasbrown said:
lol, Ive never seen an old oscilloscope, I can see the ventricle on the screen using 2d ultrasound then take the filter and scales and gain way down and so your left with an E' number on the HP which is now owned by Phillips but I want to learn Dr O and strain rate like they have at GE, its all experimental stuff but should be the wave of the future. I just have to write it all out and present it this weekend and I just paid 300$ nextday air from amazon for some cardiology books so Im hoping I get that tomorrow. I want to have it all clear in my mind in one week on tissue doppler of myocardial cardiac tissue

I need to get back into a lab or design environment. When in the field or manufacturing, every thing becomes tedium.
 
redguru said:
I need to get back into a lab or design environment. When in the field or manufacturing, every thing becomes tedium.

Im on the opposite end of the spectrum with patients and using science to help them extend their lives and find out whats going on with them. This is one of the books I ordered, hopefully I get it tomorrow next day air

Challenging Cases...
Every Friday morning for more than 10 years, world-renowned cardiology experts in the Echocardiography Laboratory at New York University Medical Center have continuously conferred over the week's cases, creating a unique record of the challenges they faced and advances made in a constantly evolving field. Now from this book you can gain a front-row perspective of those conferences to confront their most instructive, perplexing, and even bizarre cases.

Each case begins with a short clinical presentation and pertinent echocardiographic images, followed by multiple-choice questions on diagnosis and management. With every question answered, you delve further into subsequent questions, discussions, and confirming illustrations.

In this book you'll find—

92 of the most difficult and puzzling cases confronted by renowned experts.
More than 400 echocardiographic images, including 250 in full color, accompany the text to bring each case to life.
Each case stands on its own, allowing you to explore the book at your convenience cover-to-cover or in brief, random readings.
FREE CD-ROM INCLUDED—features images from the text plus special video clips associated with many cases!

This powerful and unusual book is designed to serve all who utilize echocardiography in daily practice and academia including anesthesiologists, internists, pediatricians, and intensivists at every stage of training and experience.


Intra-aortic Mass After Aortic Dissection Repair, 1
Change in Doppler Flow Pattern Following an Intervention, 3
Echo-free Space, 5
Myocardial Infarction With a New Murmur, 7
What Was the Procedure?, 9
A 27-Year-Old Patient With a Murmur, 11
Dyspnea on Exertion, 13
Progressive Dyspnea on Exertion, 15
Different Left Ventricular Gradients, 17
Concerned Mother, 19
Can You Interpret This Doppler Spectral Tracing?, 21
Weight Loss, 23
A Patient With an Asymptomatic Murmur, 26
Massive Cardiomegaly in an Asymptomatic Patient, 29
Shortness of Breath, 32
A 62-Year-Old Woman With Disseminated Intravascular Coagulation, 34
Shortness of Breath in a Patient With a Mitral Valve Prosthesis, 36
Transient Ischemic Attack Following Myocardial Infarction, 39
Heart Murmurs, 41
How Big Is the Left Atrium?, 43
Postoperative Transthoracic Echocardiogram, 46
A 48-Year-Old Man With Fever and Cough, 50
Shortness of Breath in a Previously Healthy Patient, 52
Attempt to Record Tricuspid Flow, 55
What's Wrong With This Mitral Valve?, 57
Systolic Aortic Regurgitation, 59
Lobster Claw, 61
Chronic Shortness of Breath, 63
Pleural Effusion and Abnormal Echo, 65
Oxygen Desaturation, 67
Why Is This Young Woman Short of Breath?, 69
Chest Pain, 71
Echo After Invasive Procedure, 73
Cardiogenic Shock, 75
Postoperative Echo, 77
Rheumatic Heart Disease, 81
Abnormal Blood Count, 85
Name This Structure, 87
Heart Murmur in an Elderly Patient, 88
Dyspnea in a Patient With Lymphoma, 90
Hypertension, 92
Name This Syndrome, 94
New Murmur, 96
Murmur After Valve Replacement, 98
Murmur After Aortic Valve Replacement, 100
Unusual Mitral Valve, 102
Unique Doppler Pattern, 104
More Than Meets the Eye, 106
Name This Mass, 109
The History Is Key, 111
Transesophageal Echocardiogram (TEE) During Procedure, 113
Malfunctioning Prosthetic Valve?, 115
Elderly Patient With Syncope, 117
Chest Pain in a Patient With Aortic Plaque, 119
Syncope and Murmur, 121
Enlarged Heart, 123
What Is the Left Ventricle Pressure?, 125
Elderly Patient With Abdominal Pain, 127
Edema, 129
Elderly Woman With Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease, 131
Murmur, 133
Hole in the Right Atrium?, 135
Where Is the Infection?, 138
Prosthetic Valve Disfunction?, 140
How Thin Can It Get?, 142
An Old Starr-Edwards Valve, 144
What Did You Bring Back From Nepal?, 147
Complications of Thymoma, 149
Bad Echo From Our Hospital, 153
Should You Ligate the Appendage?, 156
Transient Ischemic Attack After Valve Replacement, 158
Endocarditis, 161
High-Velocity Mitral Regurgitation, 163
Can You Name This Vessel?, 164
How Is This Mitral Regurgitation Different?, 166
Swollen Leg, 168
Is This What They Taught You in Medical School?, 170
Was It a Successful Operation?, 173
The Patient Who Fell From Her Bed, 176
Fever of Undetermined Origin, 178
Ascites, 181
Right Atrial Mass After Surgery, 183
I Had Surgery, 185
Transient Ischemic Attack One Month After Surgery, 187
Twenty-Four-Pound Weight Gain, 189
A Tough Decision, 191
Endocarditis with Shock, 194
Dyspnea in Pregnancy, 196
Pulmonary Artery Compression, 200
Cold Leg, 203
Maladie de Roger?, 207
Name This Space, 213
Index, 217
 
I've used an oscilliscope a lot...too much actually

goddamn they suck
 
This thread reminds of the answer to the kid who always asked why do we need to learn this math stuff when we grow up? lol, all of this physics is based on those math classes that we all hated when we grew up.
 
i still laugh everytime i read this

juiced is a good bro
 
Haven't seen Juicypigentrails around much lately...


BTW, Fowles & Cassiday's Analytical Mechanics text sucks.




:cow:
 
samoth said:
Haven't seen Juicypigentrails around much lately...


BTW, Fowles & Cassiday's Analytical Mechanics text sucks.




:cow:
i miss him, he's a good bro
 
juicedmohawk said:
lotsa good bros in this thread

Yeah man, its like our our own fraternity of insane geniuses on this thread. We should form a thinktank and start a company. Say fuck it and get together, brainstorm and try to take over the world. I bet we could. Science, medicine, physics to hightech, we got it covered. We'd just have to pick a business endeavor and then work nonstop to make it work with proper business models and logic. We'd be unstoppable! Whose with me, hoooooooooooooooo!! OVER, OVER, whose says its over??
WAS IT OVER WHEN THE GERMANS BOMBED PEARL HARBOR?? (forget it, he's on roll...)
NOTHING IS OVER UNTIL WE SAY ITS OVER... WHOSE WITH ME????........hoooooooo
 
BrothaBill said:
Yeah man, its like our our own fraternity of insane geniuses on this thread. We should form a thinktank and start a company. Say fuck it and get together, brainstorm and try to take over the world. I bet we could. Science, medicine, physics to hightech, we got it covered. We'd just have to pick a business endeavor and then work nonstop to make it work with proper business models and logic. We'd be unstoppable! Whose with me, hoooooooooooooooo!! OVER, OVER, whose says its over??
WAS IT OVER WHEN THE GERMANS BOMBED PEARL HARBOR?? (forget it, he's on roll...)
NOTHING IS OVER UNTIL WE SAY ITS OVER... WHOSE WITH ME????........hoooooooo

you get out of hand sometimes...

but I guess if I were in this group I'd be the one adding common sense?

Physics + Engineering = modeling shit with math and science.

engineering just happens to obtain solutions even if the math and science arent there.
 
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