I think you guys are really stereotyping trainers when you say they don't know what they are doing, and most can't even train themselves. I am trainer, and I consider myself to have a good body. I am 5'8 190 lb at 6% bf. I train my clients hard and heavy. I train some very fit people including a woman that will be competeing within the next 6 months. Bad trainers and fat clients are out there, but don't stereotype! I know you guys don't like it when the media stereotypes roid users for roid rage and other sides.
My two cents,
Pl8s