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A little history:
So I have done 10 and 6 month extended cycles before. Recovered with no issues. Took time though. This time wasn't a cycle. It was a blast and cruise. Started in march of last year with a simple cycle of 375mg test c wk. Test levels were 835 natty (yes really at 36yrs old).
During the cycle a little nagging old injury came up so I decided to drop to a 150mg wk cruise while I dealt with it. Being experienced and having done this shit for years I had no second thoughts about blasting and cruising. So It took a little longer than expected but I cruised for a few months. I was making such nice steady gains on the cruise I just left it alone at that for about 8 mos. Then I found out why lol. My Test C was heavily dosed. That 150mg wk was keeping my test levels at fucking 2450ng/dl. So this explained the creeping up palpitations I was getting. Elevated hemocrit, RBC ect. So I started asprin and dropped the test down to 105 mg wk and switched to sust. I immediately felt better. Stoppd asprin after a couple weeks. No more palps. Cruised a few moremonths and checked my test. It was at 1400 ng/dl. Not where I wanted it (1000ng/dl range) But better. Hemocrit and RBC were back in range. Cholesterol was 165. HDL was perfect and LDL was still lingering at 105. Not bad by any stretch but it should be lower. Triglycerides ware like 35. Virtually non existant. Only little thing annoying me is bilirubin creeping up every 90 day blood check. Has to be from the high RBC turnover.
So I do my last prop only cycle for 6 weeks and in week 5 I wreck my brachialis in both arms. I mean cant do anything with my arms period I fucked them up so bad.
So I have to take a month off. By this time I decide fuck it....I'm coming off everything.
Side note...right at the end of my cycle there I gave blood. They wouldn't let me give double red blood cells because they said my iron was sky high. That was pretty much the last straw for me coming off. But gave whole blood anyways which as you know helps get iron down. Will continue to give blood every 8 weeks.
PCT: So I let the sust clear my system for 3 weeks. (I was still on the 105mg wk during prop cycle) Then I do 10 days worth of 10 caps of Hcgenerate a day as a PRE PCT. Then I drop to 5 caps a day and add unleashed and post cycle and an adrenal gland support supplement.
Some people feel good during Pct because the test isn't out of their system. Trust me....I felt when the test really dropped out and everything bottomed out. Last half of the 10 days of 10 Hcgenerate a day and the first week after of Hcgenerate and unleashed I was dragging ass. I was a jekyl and hyde hair trigger asshole. Tired as hell, pissy....still in my month break for injury so I'm pissed that I cant train also.
Last week, which is 2 full weeks of PCT after the 10 day Hcgenerate blast I started to feel noticeably better. Not as tired or as hair trigger. Natural sensitivity in my cock is coming back that goes away with any exogenous test. Still not really in the mood to fuck but its getting better. If the wife wants to fuck it takes about 30 secongs of grabbing my shit to change my mood. Which aint bad considering the situation.
Monday I will be adding in DAA and Bridge to my PCT.
I get bloods done in a week or so and will be getting full everything...test, estrogen, full thyroid work up, cbc, metabolic, ect...
I expect the test to still be in the toilet but it will improve.
Training wise: The month off killed me. Being at the gym, training a couple other people but not being able to train myself didn't help my pissy attitude.
I've been training slowly again just chest/bi/tri stuff for the last 2-2.5 weeks. every 4-5 days. Trying to slowly acclimate the brachialis muscles to taking abuse again without getting them strained again. Has been going surprisingly well. First workout wasn't bad. 2nd and 3rd workouts were during that time when the test really bottomed out and were awful. Weak, painful achy workouts....yuck. Strength was still pretty impressive considering. This last week I had two chest days and two bi/tri workouts. The brachialis are cooperating with the abuse and my strength is way up as is my muscle stamina.
I posted another thread in training about the deads but I'll touch on it here quick.....; I havnt deadlifted in 6 weeks. last time was on cycle and I was doing 405 for triples. Not too impressive for a guy my size but considering I have only gotten into deads last year for the first time in 5 years it wasn't bad. I used to snatch grip rack pull 700+ but that was 09' .
last night I deadlifted. I pulled 405 for two singles. WTF.....??? First DL day in 6 weeks.....ass out on the test levels....no AAS for 6 weeks. I was fucking impressed to say the least. I probably could have done a few more too. But I know I'm gonna be sore so I let it be.
The thing that really pisses me off....My diet was spot on before on cycle... my diet is shit right now. I'm off the wagon for a much needed break for a bit before I get back into it seriously. I took a fucking month off with ZERO training....stopped AAS after 13 mos and I've only lost a half inch on my arms and almost nothing off my chest. My traps have lost that inflated look that you notice first about someone on AAS (well, if they have traps) but they are coming back up nicely. I have lost 20 lb in the last 6 weeks from laying off the diet and not training but I look the same. That means even with Aromasin I was holding an assload of water and it was mostly glycogen retention. Seems like a big waste. So at this point.....I'm actually excited to train natty for the first time in a very longtime and see what kind of gains I can make.
The next time I cycle which will be minimum of a year but up to maybe two.... it will not involve test. it will be probably var, masteron....stuff that will maybe only give a few pounds of lean gain in 8 weeks but have no water retention.
I will update as I go how I feel and bloods, training ect....
So I have done 10 and 6 month extended cycles before. Recovered with no issues. Took time though. This time wasn't a cycle. It was a blast and cruise. Started in march of last year with a simple cycle of 375mg test c wk. Test levels were 835 natty (yes really at 36yrs old).
During the cycle a little nagging old injury came up so I decided to drop to a 150mg wk cruise while I dealt with it. Being experienced and having done this shit for years I had no second thoughts about blasting and cruising. So It took a little longer than expected but I cruised for a few months. I was making such nice steady gains on the cruise I just left it alone at that for about 8 mos. Then I found out why lol. My Test C was heavily dosed. That 150mg wk was keeping my test levels at fucking 2450ng/dl. So this explained the creeping up palpitations I was getting. Elevated hemocrit, RBC ect. So I started asprin and dropped the test down to 105 mg wk and switched to sust. I immediately felt better. Stoppd asprin after a couple weeks. No more palps. Cruised a few moremonths and checked my test. It was at 1400 ng/dl. Not where I wanted it (1000ng/dl range) But better. Hemocrit and RBC were back in range. Cholesterol was 165. HDL was perfect and LDL was still lingering at 105. Not bad by any stretch but it should be lower. Triglycerides ware like 35. Virtually non existant. Only little thing annoying me is bilirubin creeping up every 90 day blood check. Has to be from the high RBC turnover.
So I do my last prop only cycle for 6 weeks and in week 5 I wreck my brachialis in both arms. I mean cant do anything with my arms period I fucked them up so bad.
So I have to take a month off. By this time I decide fuck it....I'm coming off everything.
Side note...right at the end of my cycle there I gave blood. They wouldn't let me give double red blood cells because they said my iron was sky high. That was pretty much the last straw for me coming off. But gave whole blood anyways which as you know helps get iron down. Will continue to give blood every 8 weeks.
PCT: So I let the sust clear my system for 3 weeks. (I was still on the 105mg wk during prop cycle) Then I do 10 days worth of 10 caps of Hcgenerate a day as a PRE PCT. Then I drop to 5 caps a day and add unleashed and post cycle and an adrenal gland support supplement.
Some people feel good during Pct because the test isn't out of their system. Trust me....I felt when the test really dropped out and everything bottomed out. Last half of the 10 days of 10 Hcgenerate a day and the first week after of Hcgenerate and unleashed I was dragging ass. I was a jekyl and hyde hair trigger asshole. Tired as hell, pissy....still in my month break for injury so I'm pissed that I cant train also.
Last week, which is 2 full weeks of PCT after the 10 day Hcgenerate blast I started to feel noticeably better. Not as tired or as hair trigger. Natural sensitivity in my cock is coming back that goes away with any exogenous test. Still not really in the mood to fuck but its getting better. If the wife wants to fuck it takes about 30 secongs of grabbing my shit to change my mood. Which aint bad considering the situation.
Monday I will be adding in DAA and Bridge to my PCT.
I get bloods done in a week or so and will be getting full everything...test, estrogen, full thyroid work up, cbc, metabolic, ect...
I expect the test to still be in the toilet but it will improve.
Training wise: The month off killed me. Being at the gym, training a couple other people but not being able to train myself didn't help my pissy attitude.
I've been training slowly again just chest/bi/tri stuff for the last 2-2.5 weeks. every 4-5 days. Trying to slowly acclimate the brachialis muscles to taking abuse again without getting them strained again. Has been going surprisingly well. First workout wasn't bad. 2nd and 3rd workouts were during that time when the test really bottomed out and were awful. Weak, painful achy workouts....yuck. Strength was still pretty impressive considering. This last week I had two chest days and two bi/tri workouts. The brachialis are cooperating with the abuse and my strength is way up as is my muscle stamina.
I posted another thread in training about the deads but I'll touch on it here quick.....; I havnt deadlifted in 6 weeks. last time was on cycle and I was doing 405 for triples. Not too impressive for a guy my size but considering I have only gotten into deads last year for the first time in 5 years it wasn't bad. I used to snatch grip rack pull 700+ but that was 09' .
last night I deadlifted. I pulled 405 for two singles. WTF.....??? First DL day in 6 weeks.....ass out on the test levels....no AAS for 6 weeks. I was fucking impressed to say the least. I probably could have done a few more too. But I know I'm gonna be sore so I let it be.
The thing that really pisses me off....My diet was spot on before on cycle... my diet is shit right now. I'm off the wagon for a much needed break for a bit before I get back into it seriously. I took a fucking month off with ZERO training....stopped AAS after 13 mos and I've only lost a half inch on my arms and almost nothing off my chest. My traps have lost that inflated look that you notice first about someone on AAS (well, if they have traps) but they are coming back up nicely. I have lost 20 lb in the last 6 weeks from laying off the diet and not training but I look the same. That means even with Aromasin I was holding an assload of water and it was mostly glycogen retention. Seems like a big waste. So at this point.....I'm actually excited to train natty for the first time in a very longtime and see what kind of gains I can make.
The next time I cycle which will be minimum of a year but up to maybe two.... it will not involve test. it will be probably var, masteron....stuff that will maybe only give a few pounds of lean gain in 8 weeks but have no water retention.
I will update as I go how I feel and bloods, training ect....
