PCT advice for sust/anavar cycle

[thirtyOTTsix]

Hey everyone, jus gettin ready to start a sust 250/anavar cycle n was lookin for some advice with my pct.

Im 25, 6'2" 195lbs, 9% body fat
-been workin out hard for years
Diet: consists largely of grilled chicken breast, egg whites, tuna, beans, and sweet potatoes with one "cheater meal" a day. Consuming about 240 g of protein a day.

Wk 1-10 Sust 250 @ 500/wk (2 pins each 250)
Wk 5-13 Anavar @ 80 mg/day
Wk 13-18 Nolva 40/40/20/20/20 EOD
Wk 13-18 HCGenerate for some natty test boost n whatnot

Im not gonna change compounds except to add somethin otc or switch out the HCGenerate with somethin else you may like better. I hav access to sust, anavar, n nolva so those are locked in place. I can get some arimidex but dnt kno if ill need it. Also i hav 20 mg nolva tabs, is that a good 5 wk plan with the nolva? All help is appreciated, thanks


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[thirtyOTTsix]

Any thoughts? I forgot to mention i will b using purus labs Organ Shield throughout (and hav been for a month leading up to this)

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[DEE151]

you need to get your hands on some clomid from chemicalneed.com
you allways shhould run the clom in your pct.

 

[strix75]

You shuld run some hcg in the cycle aswell to keep your balls. 500Iu twice a week

 

[thirtyOTTsix]

DEE151 thanks for the input, but what ive read says that nolva is stronger than clomid..why would i want both? Wouldnt nolva b sufficient for this cycle to keep gains?

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[thirtyOTTsix]

Also with the longer acting ester in sust, should i start my pct 2 wks or 3 wks after last pin?

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[DEE151]

wen i do my pct i run the clom and nolva together, but for me it works great.
i do it like this
clom 100/100/50/50mg
nolva 40/40/20/20mg

this is how i run my pct for 4wks.
i pick all my pct and AI and etc from chemicalneed

 

[Ecomp]

Man that is a high dosage of pct but hey I'm no one to knock what works for different people but that wud knock the shit out of me lol

 

[thirtyOTTsix]

Has anyone read this article bout PCT on isteroids.com ? he seems to hav done quite a bit of research and "sites" the entire article. Any thoughts of his pct and reasoning behind it?

http://www.isteroids.com/steroids/Post Cycle Threapy (PCT).html


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[Ecomp]

Has anyone read this article bout PCT on isteroids.com ? he seems to hav done quite a bit of research and "sites" the entire article. Any thoughts of his pct and reasoning behind it?

http://www.isteroids.com/steroids/Post Cycle Threapy (PCT).html


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That was an epic read but worth it there are so many different views on pct mainly on Nolva and mainly people slagging it on this site seems it's trial an error with your your body till you fond what works thanks for the link

 

[the.gladiator1987]

Anavar for 9 weeks seems like a lot from what I read especially on your cholesterol but you know your body best....I want to run a similar cycle soon (test/anavar)

 

[thirtyOTTsix]

@Ecomp
Glad u liked that article, thought it was very thorough..one of the best ive read

Any thoughts of whether to do in the anavar at the beginning or end of my cycle? .. jump start gains or hardened up at the end?

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[the.gladiator1987]

I would think to harden gains but at the same time, the anavar in the beginning would produce gains and then the test would be kicking in and adding on to those....I have done a lot of stuff toward the end of my cycle and every time i usually lose a lot of it. So I might say do it in the beginning

 

[thirtyOTTsix]

Interesting take gladiator, that's exactly why im so torn between what to do..anyone done what he suggests or didnt suggest and had nice success?

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[Mekat]

Im taking sust/EQ right now and let me tell u, its really annoying waiting for this shit to kick in. its best to forget u even took it lol.

i would say if ur looking to get the best of both worlds u should take the var as a kick start for 4 weeks, and then give ur body (especially the liver) a lil break from the oral, and then finish up the cycle with andother 4 weeks of var at the end.

you should also consider picking up some N2Guard just to be on the safe side, but the 4 week break between the anavar split should be enough to keep ur liver and cholesterol somewhat safe.

anyways good luck with the cycle bro, im prolly gonna run anavar for my next cycle, just wish it wasnt so damn expensive lol

 

[thirtyOTTsix]

@ Mekat

Dude i love that idea in theory for sure, but would that yield good overall results? Anyone out there done or heard anythin bout doin a split of 4 weeks var at beginning n 4 weeks at end bridging into pct? Sounds kick ass but is it practical?

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[Mekat]

I hear u bro, but the thing is that "good" results have a lot of other factors, such as, diet, training, supps etc. The way i layed out ur cycle would be the most practical way to do it considering the gear that u have and would yield the best overall results. Its very practical to run var as a kickstart for a couple of weeks and it's also practical to run it at the end for a couple of weeks to solidify ur gains.
But its not very practicle to run var for 9 weeks straight without giving ur body a break from it. U have to think more about ur overall health and wellbeing when planning a cycle. If ur running sust then u'll be happier if u kickstart with var coz u wont have to wait weeks for the sust to kick in. Then u stop the var and let the sust build on as much mass as possible. Then u harden up all ur gains with the var at the end.
Too much of anything is bad for u, thats why we go on forums like EF to research and ask questions so we dont have to find out first hand what could go wrong.
The most important thing is to be safe and be happy!

 

[Bidwelling]

I've always read to do var at the end. If u want to kick start a cycle try beast or Dbol. I do var at the end and it is beautiful way to add a rapid build up in Stregth on top of what u have gained already.

 

[the.gladiator1987]

Hey bidwelling what is your PCT for keeping your gains toward the end of your cycle? I would love to use orals to harden you up at the end but I always lose it.

 

[thirtyOTTsix]

@ Mekat

Great sound advice, much appreciated man

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[propain]

Breakfast -
Breakfast - protein shake with milk and oats. P(60g) C(60g) f(16g)
Shredded wheat with semi skimmed milk p(10g) c(37) f(3)
Bacon sandwich p(18) c(22) f(11)
Calories - 840

Lunch
mcchicken (14g) (40g) (16g)
small fries (4.4g) (39g) (11.3g)
individual pizza (20g) (46g) (18g)
protein bar (20g) (30g) (8g)
Calories 1256. THIS NEEDS CHANGING

Dinner
Grilled new york steak 8oz (48.5) (0g) (22.5)
calories : 685. (GOOD)

Snack pre workout- carb shake p(10) c(66) f(5)
Energy drink p(0) c(50) f(0)
Calories 420.

Dinner post workout- protein shake p(45) c(22) f(8)
8oz fillet steak potatoes and veg p(25) c(33) f(16)
Calories. (GOOD)

Snacks
plain bread: (3.1g) (14.6g) (1.4g)
Calories 78.4


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But listen guys, let's forget about my diet, I'm going to fix. I just want to know what do I take for my first cycle and for how long, and also I need to find out for the PCT.

Please be clear and patient with me, although I learn pretty fast. I just need someone to help build a plan and tell me where to get PCT online without being scammed. Also instructions would be appreciate, I'm even willing to help financially if you're local or by PayPal if you're not.

THANKS!

 

[Hunter30378]

most people I have talked to said clom is much better.... Those numbers seem pretty high. I'm not an expert just telling you what I have heard many times... I would also get arimidex and do .5mg eod. you are going to need an ai for this cycle. I am looking to do pretty much the same type of cycle in the next couple of months. Keep us posted to your results...