panaxosides for mass gains

[tylorDragon]

So these are suppose to be plant chemicals that are anabolic to humans, like "steroid glycosides and triterpene saponins", or so the marketing says.
Since you bros here know the real deal, I just want to know if anyone has tried panoxosides for mass gains before?
Some people online who used it before claim they added add 15-30lbs of muscle in a short period of time, my other question is if it causes any kind insomnia since it's found in the ginseng plant.

 

[muskate]

You're right, Ginseng is made up of ginsenosides, also called Panaxosides. There are 12 major panaxosides that are isolated, but it's hard to purify them. The molecules have low bioavailability due to both metabolism and poor intestinal absorption.

On paper, they look great but in a real world sense, you will notice from them what so ever. It's a marketing scam. They aren't absorbed by humans very well.

If you want something legal to increase muscle mass, SARMS are going to be your best option.

I explain what SARMS are in this video here -> http://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/new-video-sarms-explained-46877.html

A very common SARMS cycle is the SARMS triple stack. The triple stack is combination of S4 + ostarine + cardarine. http://www.evolutionary.org/the-SARMS-triple-stack-protocol
Cardarine is a great SARM for fat loss and endurance
Ostarine is a great SARM for recovery
S4 is a great SARM for strength gains
You get the best of everything by stacking the three together.


SARMS are only minimally suppressive of natural testosterone production so all that is needed as a mini PCT after a cycle of SARMS is a good natural testosterone booster like HCGenerate ES from n2bm.com.

 

[stevesmi]

nah bro, there are a lot of these things that pop up from now and then from supp companies trying to re-invent the wheel.. it doesn't work like that

 

[Jay Scott]

So these are suppose to be plant chemicals that are anabolic to humans, like "steroid glycosides and triterpene saponins", or so the marketing says.
Since you bros here know the real deal, I just want to know if anyone has tried panoxosides for mass gains before?
Some people online who used it before claim they added add 15-30lbs of muscle in a short period of time, my other question is if it causes any kind insomnia since it's found in the ginseng plant.

The highlighted part, especially the underlined, proved that this is nothing more but a marketing scam, trust me on this one

 

[MasonicBodybuilder]

Supplement companies are always trying to separate themselves from each other because the industry is so saturated. I would stick to the core supplements for mass like creatine and whey. If you want to step it up try SARMS. There is no way of adding 15-30lbs without a perfect diet, training, and steroid routine though. That is a ton of weight.

 

[Lev Butlerov]

This is yet another marketing scam - these figures are quite hard to achieve with steroids even, let alone some herbs....