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Hello all, this is my first post here so I will start with some info about me:
I'm twenty-eight and have been weight lifting steadily since I was eighteen. Last summer I did my first cycle which was just dbol, mainly taking no more than 40mg a day for eight weeks. I had a great explosion in strength and saw some quality size gains with very little (if any) bloat. I ended the cycle with tamoxifen for PCT and I kept all the strength I gained with this cycle. Although I didn't really gain as much size as I had hoped. BUT, even though I didn't feel like I gained much size, suddenly people were asking me if I was taking steroids, which seemed a bit odd to me, never heard that before I used.
So anyway, of course I am hooked. So I decide on a new cycle that consists of deca, 300 mg a week and 30 mg of dbol a day. I grabbed some oral winny too because I read that it is the best for combating possible sides from deca.
PLEASE don't berate me for doing a cycle without test. Trust me I have read it enough already and all I really see is people repeating the company line of "test as a base", while the people that respond with actual experience about a deca only cycle give nothing but good reviews.
I decided to start my dbol early because I wanted to see if i could elicit some gains--building off of what I gained last cycle before I start the injectible--plus I am very busy right now and was trying to wait for things to clear up before I commit.
So I have been taking 40 mg of dbol a week now for about two weeks. Like three days into my dosing I was curious how the winny would make me feel so I took 20mg. The next day at work I had some bad abdoiminal pain, mainly in the umbilical, and lower epigastric region of my abdomen. It felt like gas/bloating, but I wasn't farting or birping. I could eat fine and it didn't make the pain get any worse or better. The pain would go from being very mild to suddenly hurting so bad that I felt like I had to sit down.
Being that it was only three days in, I didn't think it was anything serious and it subsided after about 6 to 8 hours.
Now, almost two weeks later, I wake up with the same thing. And the odd thing is that I had been taking 10mg dbol before bed, but this night I did not. I had still used the winny a couple of times, never over 20 mg a day. Also I am taking milk thistle 300 mg a day, drink at least a gallon of water, and don't drink alcohol or take acetominophen. Honestly, I hardly drink any alcohol at all anymore, with steroids or not.
I was already seeing some strength increases, and was going to start injecting tomorrow (March 27), but now I am thinking that I should just drop everything and wait, maybe get my enzymes checked before proceeding.
The pain subsided after about 12 hours. I don't know what it is, but I know it is from my orals because I never had this before.
So can anybody offer me any advice on what it might be or what I should do?
Thank you much.
P.S. My dad was a raging alcoholic (he was a non-functioning alcoholic) and never had any liver issues that I heard of, although I am sure liver problems would have caught up to him eventually, he died at age 60. My point being that from a genetic perspective, I had assumed that I had a strong liver.
I'm twenty-eight and have been weight lifting steadily since I was eighteen. Last summer I did my first cycle which was just dbol, mainly taking no more than 40mg a day for eight weeks. I had a great explosion in strength and saw some quality size gains with very little (if any) bloat. I ended the cycle with tamoxifen for PCT and I kept all the strength I gained with this cycle. Although I didn't really gain as much size as I had hoped. BUT, even though I didn't feel like I gained much size, suddenly people were asking me if I was taking steroids, which seemed a bit odd to me, never heard that before I used.
So anyway, of course I am hooked. So I decide on a new cycle that consists of deca, 300 mg a week and 30 mg of dbol a day. I grabbed some oral winny too because I read that it is the best for combating possible sides from deca.
PLEASE don't berate me for doing a cycle without test. Trust me I have read it enough already and all I really see is people repeating the company line of "test as a base", while the people that respond with actual experience about a deca only cycle give nothing but good reviews.
I decided to start my dbol early because I wanted to see if i could elicit some gains--building off of what I gained last cycle before I start the injectible--plus I am very busy right now and was trying to wait for things to clear up before I commit.
So I have been taking 40 mg of dbol a week now for about two weeks. Like three days into my dosing I was curious how the winny would make me feel so I took 20mg. The next day at work I had some bad abdoiminal pain, mainly in the umbilical, and lower epigastric region of my abdomen. It felt like gas/bloating, but I wasn't farting or birping. I could eat fine and it didn't make the pain get any worse or better. The pain would go from being very mild to suddenly hurting so bad that I felt like I had to sit down.
Being that it was only three days in, I didn't think it was anything serious and it subsided after about 6 to 8 hours.
Now, almost two weeks later, I wake up with the same thing. And the odd thing is that I had been taking 10mg dbol before bed, but this night I did not. I had still used the winny a couple of times, never over 20 mg a day. Also I am taking milk thistle 300 mg a day, drink at least a gallon of water, and don't drink alcohol or take acetominophen. Honestly, I hardly drink any alcohol at all anymore, with steroids or not.
I was already seeing some strength increases, and was going to start injecting tomorrow (March 27), but now I am thinking that I should just drop everything and wait, maybe get my enzymes checked before proceeding.
The pain subsided after about 12 hours. I don't know what it is, but I know it is from my orals because I never had this before.
So can anybody offer me any advice on what it might be or what I should do?
Thank you much.
P.S. My dad was a raging alcoholic (he was a non-functioning alcoholic) and never had any liver issues that I heard of, although I am sure liver problems would have caught up to him eventually, he died at age 60. My point being that from a genetic perspective, I had assumed that I had a strong liver.
