in 6wks @ 2 caps a day i gained 11LBS, lost 1.5inchs around waist.
was very very good on diet, worked out 5 days a wk......40min hard lifting, 40min cardio.....sometimes HIIT, sometimes just a slow walk.
wanted to keep by body guessing cardio wise.
Will be using it again with 400mg of tes & the S1 triple stack in a few more weeks. still gathering supplies...lol