overtraining on AAS?

[Only1eagle]

Ok I know this question has been asked multiple times. ButI wonder how much increase can we handle while on.

I know this all depends on how much your on and what your diet is like.

Is there a way you can tell your overtraining a body part? I know im not overall overtraining. But I am doing chest 2xweek. 3x8-12 flat,3x8-12 incline, 3x8-12 decline, 4x8-12 cable cross over flys (2x upper, 2x lower). I then go back and do single arm light weights on flat machine and either decline or incline machines.

I am on 250mg test e E4D.

Am I over training my chest? is the Test counteracting any overtraining?

Thanks in advance!@

 

[Bloodgame3]

nah not over training i do 4x10 flat 4x10 dumbell press 4x10 incline press 4x10 fly 4x10 cross over twice a week

 

[RADAR]

I usually go as high as 12 sets training chest and nope no over training here

 

[Dogfox]

yeah your overtraining.

2 times a week is fine however. for example.

my routine for chest is:
incline DB press 5 sets of 6-8
cable flyes 4 sets of 12

then the second workout for chest is ring push ups 3 sets of 10

1st workout is the "heavy" one, second the "light" one. Im also doing an upper lower split.

I think most people overtrain but dont realize it.

 

[stevesmi]

how can you tell? i mean if you work out a muscle group and feel soreness and weakness then you need to rest that muscle a day or two longer.

we've had these arguements on here over and over about overtraining. everyone is different. if it works for you then stick with it. there is no right or wrong way AS LONG as it is working.. now if you aren't getting results thats when you have to re-evaluate what you are doing wrong. its no different then a football team that goes 0-16. yeah you are doing something wrong and its time to fire the coach and bring in some new players.

 

[Dogfox]

how can you tell? i mean if you work out a muscle group and feel soreness and weakness then you need to rest that muscle a day or two longer.

we've had these arguements on here over and over about overtraining. everyone is different. if it works for you then stick with it. there is no right or wrong way AS LONG as it is working.. now if you aren't getting results thats when you have to re-evaluate what you are doing wrong. its no different then a football team that goes 0-16. yeah you are doing something wrong and its time to fire the coach and bring in some new players.

why do more than you need tho?
Just over taxing the CNS for pure pleasure.
I overtrained for a while, but i see the light now.

I get the same results and only workout 3 times a week.

 

[downunder hunter]

why do more than you need tho?
Just over taxing the CNS for pure pleasure.
I overtrained for a while, but i see the light now.

I get the same results and only workout 3 times a week.

But what steve is saying what works for you dont neccesarily work for others, when Im off I train 3 days a week. when on 5-6 everyone is different there is no right or wrong way you just have to learn your body and what works for you

 

[joe d]

if you are improving then your fine. if you are at a stand still or are regressing you need to change something. there is no way to tell if you are training right comparing your training to others. you have to compare your training now to your training at another time with the results of both. until you know exactly what works best for you you should log everything.

 

[C.K.]

No such thing as too many reps just not enough rest after...

 

[stevesmi]

I personally think 15 sets of 8, pushing yourself on the weights will do the trick. I like to workout each muscle group roughly every 5-8 days. and i listen to my body.

and i thinks starting out with rows, deads, jerks, bench, etc is the way to go. on an arm day i start out with rows.. on a chest day i start out with bench.. on a leg day i start out with jerks or deads. and i mix things up.

and i said above everyone has different strategies. there is not one way or else life would be simple. as long as it is working for you then go with it. fitness is an individual thing and everyone has individual goals. some skinny bicyclist dude told me the other day I had gained a lot of mass as if it was a bad thing. i mean did he think i accidentally did it? people crack me up sometimes.

 

[nikolaf7]

You train light man...when i'm on i do this:
2 days train then one day rest, 3 splits...chest/biceps, back/triceps and shoulders/neck/legs

lets see first day
16-17 sets chest, 9-10 sets biceps, 2-3 sets abs...thats 1 hour
then strech few minutes and go kickboxing on sack or shadow boxing with small dumbells for 10mins, strech again full and slow and go for pwm sheik

 

[Dogfox]

But what steve is saying what works for you dont neccesarily work for others, when Im off I train 3 days a week. when on 5-6 everyone is different there is no right or wrong way you just have to learn your body and what works for you

well i used to make good gains b4. Now i make better gains. Got this notion from a natty guy who is twice my size. Progress can be made on too much training. But people rarely wnt to experiment with minimal lifting and see if better progress can be made

 

[digit0x]

But people rarely wnt to experiment with minimal lifting and see if better progress can be made

I know what you mean, but seriously 90% of people actually DO that and wonder why they aren't getting bigger.

 

[stevesmi]

well i used to make good gains b4. Now i make better gains. Got this notion from a natty guy who is twice my size. Progress can be made on too much training. But people rarely wnt to experiment with minimal lifting and see if better progress can be made

that wont work on everyone. i have worked out with people and i have had excellent results and they have put on zero muscle. a lot has to do with other factors.

sleep, genetics, diet, memory, and yes mentality.. negative people dont make it at anything much less lifting etc.

there is no right or wrong as long as it works FOR YOU.

 

[Only1eagle]

Thanks everyone.

When I am not on I only do Chest 1xweek and I dont do as many sets.

I am seeing good growth all over. My trainer even said she feels my chest 41" is well proportioned. I just feel I have a big chest and want bigger pecs (I have a pretty good chest cavity size and the pecs look nice just not as big as I want)

Also for chest I usually only feel a small amount of soreness 1 day after. Unlike when I do triceps I am sore for 1-2days.