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Noob123

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Hello gents, and thanks for taking the time to help me out. As an intro, please let me point some very important things out about myself...since this is my first post on this site. I have, as of late, been considering the use of Anabolic Steroids. I have been doing well over one month of research thus far, reading mostly into pronounced side effects, cycles, post-cycles, and results. I am very well aware of what it means to take Anabolic Steroids, and even though I am incredibly eager...I am still holding off in order to get ALL my questions answered so that my first (and more than likely, last) cycle will be prominent and superb, results-wise.

After extensive research, I have concluded that perhaps the best stack for me would be composed of Equipoise and Test (skipping the Dianabol due to what I've read regarding it's strong estrogenic properties after metabolysis.) Before I ask my main question (you guessed it, EQUIPOISE VS. DECA!!!), let me list my stats and goals...

Age: 24
Height: 5'8"
Weight: 138 lbs (I have always been a fairly toned/ripped individual since I was young. I know I weight very little, but my muscles have a decent amount of definition in them for what little work I've put in them thus far.)

I am very capable of maintaining a 5 day/week workout schedule, and I am very knowledgeable in workout routines and more importantly, TECHNIQUE.

On a side note, I currently eat about 3 meals a day, and would try my hardest to up my protein and calorie intake while on the cycle.

Supplements would include Muscle Milk (preferrably 3 times daily), Creatine, and a Multi-Vitamin.

Post-Cycle questions will be asked later.

So, since this is my first cycle, how do you think my gains would look with about 500mg of Equipoise along with 300mg of Test weekly? I understand that the gains from Equipoise are somewhat mild compared to those of Deca, and Deca stores on a lot of water weight as well.

I know this is going to sound stupid, but even though I am very skinny, I still prefer NOT to gain weight by means of bloat and water weight. However, having said that, I have yet to read anything in regards to solid muscle gains from Equipoise. I hear it gives you great vascularit and solid muscle gains, but how much? As a 138 pounder, will I be able to reach a solid 155 or maybe even 160 with Equipoise + Test? My MAIN GOALS are to gain as much SOLID weight as possible, while keeping a fine, lean, ripped physique.

Any and all opinions are greatly appreciated. Thanks brothers!
 
138 lbs? you need to stay in the gym and eat more.

First, your only eating 3 meals a day. Multiply that by 2.5 and you'll be where you need to be. Start counting you calories. You should consume an easy 3500-4000. All of your protein is coming from shakes. You need to go out and get chicken breasts and keep eating them. Fast acting protein is good for after exercise and a snack, but not a meal replacement. Red meat is also your friend. I dont recommend getting on gear until have gained more weight naturally, but most likly your not going to listen.

SO..
you need more test. Test should be higher than the eq. 500 test (250 monday 250 thurday) and 400 eq (200 monday 200 thursday)

Thats my next cycle. Run the EQ longer than the test (like 14 weeks) (test is run at 10 weeks)

Some are going to tell you that you need test while still on EQ but my research showed me that the EQ will be good for the final 4 weeks.

Have adex and nova on hand at all times.
 
Dont cycle yet. get you eating right for gods sake!

you need to be getting in atleat 5-6 meals a day with atleast three of those from chicken beef or whatever meat is available.

I think you should start reading up on diets and food instead of aas
 
Well, thanks for the reply, but you didn't really answer any of my questions. I already stated that my diet would be changing soon. I come from a European lifestyle, so my house is always filled with cooking that includes red meats and ESPECIALLY chicken. I have read up a lot on dieting, and know what I should be eating. I am a full time pre-med student so I'm at school A LOT, so I'd have to pack lunched and dinners with me which proves to be quite difficult to lug around. Also, the prices at our cafeteria and on-campus supermarkets are ridiculous, so I'd rather not buy.

You did, however, bring up some new questions for me. What is Adex and Nova, and why should it be on hand at all times?

Also, some more opinions regarding Equipoise and Deca in regards to my current body weight and impact each may have.

P.S. FutureMed, I most definitely will listen. I am very eager to try out some gear, but I refuse to do so unless I know I can stay consistent in the gym whilst on a good high protein/calorie diet. Trust me, I've been looking into gear almost everyday for 6 months now and still haven't started. =)
 
Well, thanks for the reply, but you didn't really answer any of my questions. I already stated that my diet would be changing soon. I come from a European lifestyle, so my house is always filled with cooking that includes red meats and ESPECIALLY chicken. I have read up a lot on dieting, and know what I should be eating. I am a full time pre-med student so I'm at school A LOT, so I'd have to pack lunched and dinners with me which proves to be quite difficult to lug around. Also, the prices at our cafeteria and on-campus supermarkets are ridiculous, so I'd rather not buy.

You did, however, bring up some new questions for me. What is Adex and Nova, and why should it be on hand at all times?

Also, some more opinions regarding Equipoise and Deca in regards to my current body weight and impact each may have.

P.S. FutureMed, I most definitely will listen. I am very eager to try out some gear, but I refuse to do so unless I know I can stay consistent in the gym whilst on a good high protein/calorie diet. Trust me, I've been looking into gear almost everyday for 6 months now and still haven't started. =)


well we dont really answer questions if your not suppose to be doing steroids..
you dont need steroids you need food and youll grow like a weed..
you need basically as i call it "6-8 dinners" a day.
eat
eat
eat
train train train...
and you will grow
steroids are some miracle workers...go ahead take them but nothing will happen .. look wheres your diet at?
 
your questions where answered man. at this point steroids are not for you. you do not know how to diet, train, or recover properly. until you do you will get nowhere with steroids. the main problem here is the time issue. you want it now and thats not going to happen. diet is something you need to learn through experimentation and it takes a long time. so does training efectively. running any cycle at this point will bring you the same result. small gains, injuries, and total loss of gains leaving you in a worst place then where you started. sorry man but its the truth. check out our diet and training forums. good luck
 
Well, thanks for the reply, but you didn't really answer any of my questions. I already stated that my diet would be changing soon. I come from a European lifestyle, so my house is always filled with cooking that includes red meats and ESPECIALLY chicken. I have read up a lot on dieting, and know what I should be eating. I am a full time pre-med student so I'm at school A LOT, so I'd have to pack lunched and dinners with me which proves to be quite difficult to lug around. Also, the prices at our cafeteria and on-campus supermarkets are ridiculous, so I'd rather not buy.

You did, however, bring up some new questions for me. What is Adex and Nova, and why should it be on hand at all times?

Also, some more opinions regarding Equipoise and Deca in regards to my current body weight and impact each may have.

P.S. FutureMed, I most definitely will listen. I am very eager to try out some gear, but I refuse to do so unless I know I can stay consistent in the gym whilst on a good high protein/calorie diet. Trust me, I've been looking into gear almost everyday for 6 months now and still haven't started. =)

You just dont get it....

Eating properly isnt something you just do for 8 weeks while on cycle and then just go back to eating 2-3meals of random things a day . Bottom line- your very small,if your training is good like you say then you would be bigger if you ate more! its simple
 
Well, thanks for the reply, but you didn't really answer any of my questions. I already stated that my diet would be changing soon. I come from a European lifestyle, so my house is always filled with cooking that includes red meats and ESPECIALLY chicken. I have read up a lot on dieting, and know what I should be eating. I am a full time pre-med student so I'm at school A LOT, so I'd have to pack lunched and dinners with me which proves to be quite difficult to lug around. Also, the prices at our cafeteria and on-campus supermarkets are ridiculous, so I'd rather not buy.

You did, however, bring up some new questions for me. What is Adex and Nova, and why should it be on hand at all times?

Also, some more opinions regarding Equipoise and Deca in regards to my current body weight and impact each may have.

P.S. FutureMed, I most definitely will listen. I am very eager to try out some gear, but I refuse to do so unless I know I can stay consistent in the gym whilst on a good high protein/calorie diet. Trust me, I've been looking into gear almost everyday for 6 months now and still haven't started. =)

If you've been lookin into gear for a while you've obviously not been looking at everything if you dont know what Adex and Nolva are.....just eat bro and train hard you will gain. You are not ready for AAS.....
 
I am very eager to try out some gear, but I refuse to do so unless I know I can stay consistent in the gym whilst on a good high protein/calorie diet. Trust me, I've been looking into gear almost everyday for 6 months now and still haven't started. =)

It took me over 3 years to get my diet down the way it is now. In that same time i've been perfecting my routine in the gym while reading about AAS.

You say you are eager, ok fine. I was eager too in '07 when I first started researching and bought my first cycle. I still haven't used it yet. Get the picture? You have a lot more research to do especially since you don't know what A-Dex or Nolva is, and why it needs to be on hand.

You seem like an intelligent person, stop thinking about steroids and start figuring out how you're going to gain weight while going to medical school.

Good luck to you.

-Philroe
 
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