Opinion on Body Fat and Cycle

[columboweiser76]

I know that the leaner you are the better it is, in my opinion to start a cycle. This is due to bulking nad gaining some bf. I personally am fat as hell at 14% right now. I am holding off right now to start my fina cycle...should I wait or do a lower carb high protein and fat diet and not worry about it? Looking for bodybuilders who competes opinions here... I have done at least two dozen cycles, but am always looking for an outside opinion... I am currently 5'5 at 178lbs. I compete at the high end of lightweight in the past and once at the low end of middle weight... I am into cuts and sym. not mass...mass is great, but looks bad without the other two....

thanks for the input!

Columbo~

 

[Bruce]

10 percent is the highest i think you should be to do a cycle. its just like people say you shouldn't juice if you haven't put on natty muscle. if you can't get on point to be ripped natty you won't on juice. people that rely on tren never look good year round, diet is key no matter what. on the other hand if you get your diet down and start early you are not really commiting a crime or anything, i just think its a waste of juice

 

[columboweiser76]

10 percent is the highest i think you should be to do a cycle. its just like people say you shouldn't juice if you haven't put on natty muscle. if you can't get on point to be ripped natty you won't on juice. people that rely on tren never look good year round, diet is key no matter what. on the other hand if you get your diet down and start early you are not really commiting a crime or anything, i just think its a waste of juice

This is my opinion, just want some other opinions to fight those of my buddies who think I should do it now... I use Lange calipers with a 9 point scale which is more accurate and gives harsher readings than the three and five point scales but is more accurate in my opinion...thats bro!

Columbo!

 

[solidspine]

At 5’5” & 178 Lbs you should be pretty darn lean,

I would do my Fina cycle, what else are you adding to Fina?

Reason I say that is, I am 5’5” and close to 200 lbs and my bf is below 10 percent.


I have been doing Fina for at least a month and have gotten leaner in that time frame.

 

[gettnlarge01]

5'5",178lbs at 14% bf and you have run at least 2 dozen cycles? What were your stats before you started cycling?You are preatty lite to have run that many cycles.

 

[mikefear]

dude.. he's 5'5..

 

[get456]

dude.. he's 5'5..

exactly

230/240 at 6'2 or so is a hell of a lot easier to get to than 180 at 5 fucking 5

 

[mr.nitro]

I get leaner with every cycle I do. I find it so much easy to sculpt your body while "on"

 

[big_aug]

I was a big supporter of the "don't juice until your bodyfat is lower" idea in the past. However, I think if your experienced and know what you want to do then there is no problem being a little high in the BF area.

I'm just coming back from some bad injuries and right now I'm 6'2 250 at 15-17% BF, which is a long way from the 250 @ 12% I was at a couple months ago. I'm going to be hitting my next cycle at the end of the month, and I'm confident I'll get the results I want.

So what I'm saying is, if you know your body, know your training, etc, etc. then really its not a big deal. Hit the cardio and you'll be fine. I wouldn't do a bulker if your BF is high, I'll tell you that

 

[LITTLEMAGS]

I was a big supporter of the "don't juice until your bodyfat is lower" idea in the past. However, I think if your experienced and know what you want to do then there is no problem being a little high in the BF area.

I'm just coming back from some bad injuries and right now I'm 6'2 250 at 15-17% BF, which is a long way from the 250 @ 12% I was at a couple months ago. I'm going to be hitting my next cycle at the end of the month, and I'm confident I'll get the results I want.

So what I'm saying is, if you know your body, know your training, etc, etc. then really its not a big deal. Hit the cardio and you'll be fine. I wouldn't do a bulker if your BF is high, I'll tell you that

good advise....i went through the same thing not long ago.

 

[gettnlarge01]

dude.. he's 5'5..

He weighs 178lbs at 14%bf[which is not lean] after running over 2dozen cycles.To me that is alot of use for not much to show for it,but that's just my thoughts.

 

[GymIntensity]

10 percent is the highest i think you should be to do a cycle. its just like people say you shouldn't juice if you haven't put on natty muscle. if you can't get on point to be ripped natty you won't on juice. people that rely on tren never look good year round, diet is key no matter what. on the other hand if you get your diet down and start early you are not really commiting a crime or anything, i just think its a waste of juice

aite bro, im gonna show you that gear can give great results at a BF% higher than 10

 

[blut wump]

I have to agree with gymintensity. The only way I'll ever be below 10% again is if I have some wasting disease or food becomes a planet-wide scarcity.

Does anyone want to tell the likes of Glenn Ross to get off the sauce? It's all a matter of goals. If you want to loook like a muscular male super-model then you need low BF, otherwise not. It has no bearing on whether to run gear for most users.

 

[mikefear]

I dont think you need to be <10% to use AAS.. I wouldnt use it if I was obese.. but if you're serious about your training and know what you're doing, I wouldn't let bf% dictate it

 

[blut wump]

A couple of aspects to bear in mind however: some compounds can re-esterify and be stored in bodyfat; a higher bodyfat is likely to lead to a higher need for an AI.

 

[Inhibitor13]

He weighs 178lbs at 14%bf[which is not lean] after running over 2dozen cycles.To me that is alot of use for not much to show for it,but that's just my thoughts.

Agreed

 

[columboweiser76]

why am I so light? cause those cycles were between 1998 and 2001. I go married, started that job thing, you know excuses, excuses and stopped training hard, started running more and maintaining, well I guess sort of... I do not want to be huge, that is not my goal, I like the lean hard look with 17" arms or so. at 5'5, I want to look good for the ladies first...If I can or could get as big around as I am tall with muscle, I personally do not like that look for me...overall, I love the big guys at the shows, but we each have our own look we are striving for...I know many will say its cause I could not be that big anyway, your right, I cannot...you can't ever make a mini poodle into a rott. Have a great weekend everyone and go PATs!!!

Columbo

 

[omega529]

i started at 14%, and now at 9%