Online Personal Training Certificate NICE

[the.gladiator1987]

I just bought it for 100 bucks and once i get it tonight i will be working at a gym for this hot broad i met at a party that has tubs of protein in her car and house at all times, nice little body that id love to fuck

abyway i got it at sgfitness.com and its barely a fucking exam i gotta take. 23 questions and 3 essay questions, 300 words each. But all this girl needs is a certificate and Im good to go.

I know you guys probably hate that im gonna be one of those trainers that dont really know shit but gets paid 16/hr starting

 

[iggy]

it's a lot harder to be a trainer then you think bro.
manage your time wisely.

the more and better certs you have the better you look.

make sure to join a great gym and be charismatic as all hell.

 

[the.gladiator1987]

it's a lot harder to be a trainer then you think bro.
manage your time wisely.

the more and better certs you have the better you look.

make sure to join a great gym and be charismatic as all hell.

Well if i was to do it right I would go through ACSM, but the girl just wants to see a certificate. She manages the personal trainers (me) and puts the clients under us (me). So basically im working at a gym, dont gotta pay, since they need people bad. From there I can work on getting more certs like CPR and ACSM.

I know its harder than I think im gonna be reading a whole bunch all night evry night!

 

[calveless wonder]

lol, i read your posts and god you're dumb.

that training certificate isn't worth the paper it's printed on. you just wasted $100

the certificate nangiggles posted on your other thread is more credible than that

welcome to the shitty world of personal training. you're going to hate it

 

[iggy]

if you have a degree in exercise science to go with it you can make a helluva lot more

 

[Bigpimpin10]

isnt that certificate kind of like buying a fake diploma online? or am i completely wrong? and you can actually get a training certificate lke that?

 

[the.gladiator1987]

lol, i read your posts and god you're dumb.

that training certificate isn't worth the paper it's printed on. you just wasted $100

the certificate nangiggles posted on your other thread is more credible than that

welcome to the shitty world of personal training. you're going to hate it

Do you understand all this girl needs to see is that Im certified. Thats what the paper says so I am. Its not a waste

 

[ponyfitness]

Why not save yourself the $100 and just forge one? It's about the same thing.

You just joined the 90% of trainers who should not be training people because they are dangerous and don't know anything but they look good so people think they do. Congrats.

 

[Razorguns]

Certificates mean nothing.

Results, Communication, Personality and Referals do. No one ever says 'hey call my trainer. He's certified in 20 things!'

r

 

[puddlemonkey]

 

[nangiggles]

lol, i read your posts and god you're dumb.

that training certificate isn't worth the paper it's printed on. you just wasted $100

the certificate nangiggles posted on your other thread is more credible than that

welcome to the shitty world of personal training. you're going to hate it

I guess mine wasnt good enough.... I should have charged hi $30 for it

BTW dont shit were you eat, dont fuck her if ur gonna work with/for her.....

 

[SpyWizard]

Certificates mean nothing.

Results, Communication, Personality and Referals do. No one ever says 'hey call my trainer. He's certified in 20 things!'

r

exactly, insurance requires it.. the gym i'm working at requires certs, but they must be approved certs.. national NCCA certs anyway..

does that mean the trainer can train someone?? NO...

just like accountants can save you money if they don't have experience, and or people aren't willing to pay them..

Now, I think you have done this for the wrong reason.. why?? if your pecker isn't up to snuff for this woman, she'll dump you quick..

all you'll have is the clients that want to work with you directly and if you don't have that relationship.. $32,000 yr isn't a lot of money.. so start making plans..

Remember it's all about

 

[nimbus]

lol cw regulated in this thread

 

[Bikini Mod]

LOL@anyone who thinks that *just anyone* can train a body.

Dude, I told you to look into tending bar. Bartending school doesn't cost a lot. You get through it quickly and you will make a pretty good buck while you are trying to find out what to do with the rest of your life. If you tend in places where women go you won't make as much money (but you will still make more than enough) as a place with gay clientele but you won't be able to shake all the nani off you.

 

[the.gladiator1987]

LOL@anyone who thinks that *just anyone* can train a body.

Dude, I told you to look into tending bar. Bartending school doesn't cost a lot. You get through it quickly and you will make a pretty good buck while you are trying to find out what to do with the rest of your life. If you tend in places where women go you won't make as much money (but you will still make more than enough) as a place with gay clientele but you won't be able to shake all the nani off you.

Well all she said was get certified anywhere, i dont even have to be cpr certified, then she said im good to go. shes only 19 but she manages all the trainers. i ned a job quick wo why not see how this goes?

I could train someone anyway with what i already know. bartending sounds great, ill do that on the side too

 

[Bikini Mod]

Well all she said was get certified anywhere, i dont even have to be cpr certified, then she said im good to go. shes only 19 but she manages all the trainers. i ned a job quick wo why not see how this goes?

I could train someone anyway with what i already know. bartending sounds great, ill do that on the side too

You mean to tell me that YOUR DIRECT SUPERIOR will be a nineteen year old girl?

I do NOT envy you. Talk about drama bullshit just waiting to happen.

So you have a 45 year old guy, retired military, broke his back 12 years ago, recovered but has limitation, has been a computer guy since he got out of the service after his injury. He's got high blood pressure and is about 30 pounds overweight.

Where do you begin?

 

[ponyfitness]

Well all she said was get certified anywhere, i dont even have to be cpr certified, then she said im good to go. shes only 19 but she manages all the trainers. i ned a job quick wo why not see how this goes?

I could train someone anyway with what i already know. bartending sounds great, ill do that on the side too

Are you serious? I'd love to see what type of gym this GIRL is running. If they have a 19 year old as manager of PT their clientele (and the other trainers) must be laughable.

Too bad people are probably paying you their good money for advice you have no business giving and techniques that could probably put them in the hospital. What a joke.

 

[nangiggles]

19 WTF... another reason not to hit that... I can almost smeel the drama from this little country miles away....

 

[nangiggles]

You mean to tell me that YOUR DIRECT SUPERIOR will be a nineteen year old girl?

I do NOT envy you. Talk about drama bullshit just waiting to happen.

So you have a 45 year old guy, retired military, broke his back 12 years ago, recovered but has limitation, has been a computer guy since he got out of the service after his injury. He's got high blood pressure and is about 30 pounds overweight.

Where do you begin?

Start with 20 min of cardio.. in eliptical machine so has less impact

 

[binö]

lol everyone is shitting on his dream.
i hope it works out bro...but being a PT
seems like such a shady job...you gotta be fake happy and pumped
up all the time.
seems like they all start off with big plans to train hotties and fuck them and be jacked and awesome.
but they end up training fatties and buffons

 

[the.gladiator1987]

lol everyone is shitting on his dream.
i hope it works out bro...but being a PT
seems like such a shady job...you gotta be fake happy and pumped
up all the time.
seems like they all start off with big plans to train hotties and fuck them and be jacked and awesome.
but they end up training fatties and buffons

haha funny thing is that if you dont want me as your personal trainer just fucking say so, i cant force anyone to be my client! So do your own fuckin research and find the best one!

Ill start off with my manager and see where the fuckin goes form there, the old fat people walk, talk and work out slower, = more money by the hour

 

[binö]

haha funny thing is that if you dont want me as your personal trainer just fucking say so, i cant force anyone to be my client! So do your own fuckin research and find the best one!

Ill start off with my manager and see where the fuckin goes form there, the old fat people walk, talk and work out slower, = more money by the hour

meh i would never pay someone to tell me what i know how to do.
if i were you i'd do these for a few yrs as a side gig while pursuing a real training cert i.e BS in kinesology or sports medicine.
get a job working for a pro or d1 team...fuggin fun with lotsa perks

 

[Castro_bigdog]

Lol!!!!

lol everyone is shitting on his dream.
I hope it works out bro...but being a pt
seems like such a shady job...you gotta be fake happy and pumped
up all the time.
Seems like they all start off with big plans to train hotties and fuck them and be jacked and awesome.
But they end up training fatties and buffons

 

[the.gladiator1987]

meh i would never pay someone to tell me what i know how to do.
if i were you i'd do these for a few yrs as a side gig while pursuing a real training cert i.e BS in kinesology or sports medicine.
get a job working for a pro or d1 team...fuggin fun with lotsa perks

Thats funny im getting my BS in kiniesiology / exercise science

i didnt get this job to help people, i got it to meet girls. girls girls girls

 

[the.gladiator1987]

You mean to tell me that YOUR DIRECT SUPERIOR will be a nineteen year old girl?

I do NOT envy you. Talk about drama bullshit just waiting to happen.

So you have a 45 year old guy, retired military, broke his back 12 years ago, recovered but has limitation, has been a computer guy since he got out of the service after his injury. He's got high blood pressure and is about 30 pounds overweight.

Where do you begin?

I love when people use EXTREME examples to get their point across LOL. a 45 year old guy with back problems? Id tell him to go fuck off

 

[75th]

You mean to tell me that YOUR DIRECT SUPERIOR will be a nineteen year old girl?

I do NOT envy you. Talk about drama bullshit just waiting to happen.

So you have a 45 year old guy, retired military, broke his back 12 years ago, recovered but has limitation, has been a computer guy since he got out of the service after his injury. He's got high blood pressure and is about 30 pounds overweight.

Where do you begin?

500mg Test Cyp / week for 9 weeks
30mg dbol ed for the first 4 weeks
150mg tren ed weeks 4-9
DNP post cycle to burn fat




Duh.

 

[binö]

and i'm gonna go against the grain here and say it's not that difficult to train someone, even without some bullshit
cert.
i could def do it, just simple weigh training and cardio.

 

[75th]

All I know is that going off of his posts in this thread alone, this gladiator fella should do very well in life.

I'd equate him to a male Heather Rae as far as milestones reached, lives touched, and illegitimate children generated.

 

[the.gladiator1987]

All I know is that going off of his posts in this thread alone, this gladiator fella should do very well in life.

I'd equate him to a male Heather Rae as far as milestones reached, lives touched, and illegitimate children generated.

lol

 

[binö]

500mg Test Cyp / week for 9 weeks
30mg dbol ed for the first 4 weeks
150mg tren ed weeks 4-9
DNP post cycle to burn fat




Duh.

don't forget the green tea bro.
good for broken backs just ask fonz

 

[musclemom]

I love when people use EXTREME examples to get their point across LOL. a 45 year old guy with back problems? Id tell him to go fuck off

Fail.

You think only young, beautiful, fit people want to work out, you putz? Your bread and butter is potentially Mr. & Mrs. Couch Potato that the doctor told to drop 20 or 30 to get their BP and diabetes under control. They're the ones with the deep pockets who don't know where to begin in the gym.

As for telling your hypothetical client to "fuck off," I'm 44 and was born with all sorts of spinal problems. I've lifted since I was in my late 20s and have never hurt myself doing it. In fact, I have reduced my pain and improved my quality of life while managing to avoid surgery or heavy duty daily drugs.

 

[iggy]

but glad, thats what seperates great trainers from bad and average trainers.

get trainers do care about the old people, fat people, ect. they get in it because they like to help people and see people make changes.

they actually care about clients progress and treat them as if they are just individuals who want to achieve goals and better themselves.

i myself am learning how to DJ now and going to do that in college. on the side getting certified so i can PT as well. not until im big enough though.

 

[the.gladiator1987]

Fail.

You think only young, beautiful, fit people want to work out, you putz? Your bread and butter is potentially Mr. & Mrs. Couch Potato that the doctor told to drop 20 or 30 to get their BP and diabetes under control. They're the ones with the deep pockets who don't know where to begin in the gym.

As for telling your hypothetical client to "fuck off," I'm 44 and was born with all sorts of spinal problems. I've lifted since I was in my late 20s and have never hurt myself doing it. In fact, I have reduced my pain and improved my quality of life while managing to avoid surgery or heavy duty daily drugs.

putz? LOL god you sound so stupid sometimes, calling me a putz. its the internet come up with something better than that please

you take my jokes way too seriously. notice the little green guy laughing after the god damn comment? and yea i would prefer young beautiful women coming into my gym, so dont shit on my parade. like i dont know that most of my clients are gonna be fucktards like you, geeeeezzzz

 

[the.gladiator1987]

but glad, thats what seperates great trainers from bad and average trainers.

get trainers do care about the old people, fat people, ect. they get in it because they like to help people and see people make changes.

they actually care about clients progress and treat them as if they are just individuals who want to achieve goals and better themselves.

i myself am learning how to DJ now and going to do that in college. on the side getting certified so i can PT as well. not until im big enough though.

im only kidding on these forums brotha, im gonna try and be the best personal trainer i can be no doubt about it. Il evenyually go through ACSM, im gettin my bachelors in exercise science.

 

[iggy]

if you don't like a client then drop them man.

its what my buddy had to do a couple of times and the fucker is huge as hell.

make sure you have a strong connection with your clients.

they wont all be cute girls bro.

 

[ponyfitness]

I think in the nine years I have been training people I have had about five clients I would actually say were hot enough to risk losing their money to bang them.

Now, the other employees usually consist of young, flirty girls with incredibly tight asses who love to party. Especially the front desk girls. They are the ones you want to tag.

 

[the.gladiator1987]

I think in the nine years I have been training people I have had about five clients I would actually say were hot enough to risk losing their money to bang them.

Now, the other employees usually consist of young, flirty girls with incredibly tight asses who love to party. Especially the front desk girls. They are the ones you want to tag.

Best post ive seen so far

How do you like personal training brotha

 

[musclemom]

putz? LOL god you sound so stupid sometimes, calling me a putz. its the internet come up with something better than that please

Definitions of putz on the Web:
* (Yiddish) a fool; an idiot
* cock: obscene terms for penis

So I called you an idiot and a dick in one word. Works for me

As for the fucktard comment, gotta say I'm almost a little proud of you, Princess, you not only spelled it correctly you actually managed to use a word that has more than one syllable and use it both gramatically and contextually correct! Good show! Keep that up and you'll be wearing big boy pants in no time, you absolute waste of oxygen and natural resources.

Look, go cheer yourself up, go flex in a mirror, maybe jerk off to a picture of yourself, then come back here on the board, post pictures, and seek more approval from anonymous people, you pitiful child.

 

[Bikini Mod]

I love when people use EXTREME examples to get their point across LOL. a 45 year old guy with back problems? Id tell him to go fuck off

Ummm I was describing one (of many) of the clients I had back when I was a certified fitness professional (read = personal trainer). I had clients who wanted to become physically stronger in order to pass certain tests for their professions (one was a young woman who had lifelong battle with bulemia/anorexia. She was training to become an agent for the FBI. One was a much older woman who had already served her time in the air force [if memory serves correctly] now only in the reserves but still had to do her time twice per month. She was in her later 40's and had serious knee issues that we had to work around. BOTH WOMEN passed their physical requirements because they trained with ME.). I had clients who wanted to get their bodies back post partum. I had one client who was a retired high school principal. He had serious diabetes and developed pnuemonia twice in two years and had to be hospitalized - we are talking bed-ridden for months. As a result he gained MASSIVE amounts of weight. He was so big that he couldn't fit into most equipment and had gotten so weak that he wasn't physically strong enough to support his own weight. He couldn't walk or sit up for more than several minutes as a clip. And the list went on. These were my "typical clients". I never got ONE RED CENT from young jooseheads who had body dysmorphia so bad that no matter how big their biceps got, it was still never enough. They spent their money on MORE JOOSE, not a competent trainer.

I supported myself and my four kids for two years in that line of work so *mebbe* I know what I am talking about? I also tended bar for many MANY years on two different continents. I worked as anything from barback to tendril to manager.

I wasn't just "guessing" when I gave you advice. I was conveying first hand LIFE EXPERIENCE.

You're welcome.

 

[the.gladiator1987]

Ummm I was describing one (of many) of the clients I had back when I was a certified fitness professional (read = personal trainer). I had clients who wanted to become physically stronger in order to pass certain tests for their professions (one was a young woman who had lifelong battle with bulemia/anorexia. She was training to become an agent for the FBI. One was a much older woman who had already served her time in the air force [if memory serves correctly] now only in the reserves but still had to do her time twice per month. She was in her later 40's and had serious knee issues that we had to work around. BOTH WOMEN passed their physical requirements because they trained with ME.). I had clients who wanted to get their bodies back post partum. I had one client who was a retired high school principal. He had serious diabetes and developed pnuemonia twice in two years and had to be hospitalized - we are talking bed-ridden for months. As a result he gained MASSIVE amounts of weight. He was so big that he couldn't fit into most equipment and had gotten so weak that he wasn't physically strong enough to support his own weight. He couldn't walk or sit up for more than several minutes as a clip. And the list went on. These were my "typical clients". I never got ONE RED CENT from young jooseheads who had body dysmorphia so bad that no matter how big their biceps got, it was still never enough. They spent their money on MORE JOOSE, not a competent trainer.

I supported myself and my four kids for two years in that line of work so *mebbe* I know what I am talking about? I also tended bar for many MANY years on two different continents. I worked as anything from barback to tendril to manager.

I wasn't just "guessing" when I gave you advice. I was conveying first hand LIFE EXPERIENCE.

You're welcome.

Thanks

 

[Bikini Mod]

Bino - with all due respect - no you couldn't. You only know how you got YOUR BODY to reach YOUR GOALS.

Every *body* has different goals and different limitations.

The bulk of my bread and butter came from clients who were mid 40's and up, NOT ONE wanted to know a damned thing about bodybuilding and MOST had anywhere from mild to serious physical limitations.

 

[the.gladiator1987]

Bino - with all due respect - no you couldn't. You only know how you got YOUR BODY to reach YOUR GOALS.

Every *body* has different goals and different limitations.

The bulk of my bread and butter came from clients who were mid 40's and up, NOT ONE wanted to know a damned thing about bodybuilding and MOST had anywhere from mild to serious physical limitations.

I dont agree at all that *most* will have some kind of physical limitation. Most people are just too fucking lazy, wanna lose some fat and get in shape.

Do you ever think the people I get will want to know about bodybuilding because I probably look and lift like one? You dont so why would anyone ask you?

 

[Bikini Mod]

I dont agree at all that *most* will have some kind of physical limitation. Most people are just too fucking lazy, wanna lose some fat and get in shape.

Do you ever think the people I get will want to know about bodybuilding because I probably look and lift like one? You dont so why would anyone ask you?

I wasn't expressing an opinion. I was stating FACTS that were based on my REAL LIFE experience as a personal trainer. Have you seen any of MY PICS?

www.bikinemu.com take a look and let me know who would have asked for my help as a certified personal trainer. (I used to LOVE to do free sessions with the *know-it-all* juiceheads. By 15 minutes in they would ALL BE WHINING like little girls. )

As I said before MOST of my clients were mid 40's and up. I don't know of very many people that have reached middle age without having developed some sort of physical limitation, MYSELF INCLUDED.

Lucky thing for my husband he married a personal trainer. Both of his shoulders are blown from all of the INCORRECT training he was told to do in his teens by his coach on top being a competitive swimmer and ocean life guard. He had the same knee damaged twice in Vietnam, also caught a bullet in his back and one in his bicep. Though he remained active for as long as he could by the time I met him he was fairly overweight with lifelong high blood pressure and recently developed a cholesterol issue. Thanks to him FINALLY listening to his "bitch nag of a wife" he has dropped a significant amount of bodyfat and has NORMAL CHOLESTEROL AND NORMAL BLOOD PRESSURE WITHOUT MEDICATION. He just turned 58.

^^^I am trying to give you an indication of who your "typical PAYING client" will be IF you seriously decide to pursue this line of work.

Unless you REALLY REALLY WANT to help people for not enough pay then I suggest you think about pursuing another profession.

It is NOT easy and maybe 1% of your clients will be kyoot, bored, hausfraus whose hubby's have fat wallets.

Go to bartending school. Based on what I've seen you post you will probably do fairly well, especially in a gay bar/club. (THAT IS NOT A SLIGHT.) Also based on what I've seen you post you will most likely starve as a personal trainer. (ALSO NOT A SLIGHT.)

 

[ceo]

gotta go with BM and MM in this thread.

Not to mention, when you start fucking this 19 yr. old girl, your job will not last long (not that it would last much longer if you didn't fuck her). Recipe for disaster = 19 yr old girl as your boss that you are also fucking.

 

[miplank]

lol@this thread

 

[calveless wonder]

your boss is 19?

What kind of gym is this?

Jungle?

 

[miplank]

pics of the 19 yo boss.

 

[Bigpimpin10]

lol this thread is fucking hilarious.. i love the posts.

 

[cindylou]

your link isnt working BM

 

[binö]

Bino - with all due respect - no you couldn't. You only know how you got YOUR BODY to reach YOUR GOALS.

Every *body* has different goals and different limitations.

The bulk of my bread and butter came from clients who were mid 40's and up, NOT ONE wanted to know a damned thing about bodybuilding and MOST had anywhere from mild to serious physical limitations.

you're making it way to complicated.
yeah maybe i couldn't train a one armed maing whose had multiple back surgeries and can only do certain exercieses hopping on one foot.
meh
it's not as hard as people make it out to be, just demonstrate some basic easy exercises and get them cardio'ing=easy

 

[calveless wonder]

and i'm gonna go against the grain here and say it's not that difficult to train someone, even without some bullshit
cert.
i could def do it, just simple weigh training and cardio.

you're an idiot for this reply.

go be a trainer and tell me how it works out for you lol

BM is spot on. it's not an easy job. im not even talkign about the business side, which is 80% of the job.


yeah. i bet you could sell a PT package, keep your client interested and focused, retain them for more sessions...and constantly stagger their workout on top of dealing with their injuries by modding their exercises.

on top of all the bullshitting and yappin you have to do while you're with them because 90% of your clients want to talk

good luck buddy. i love you bino but you need to stfu because you haven't an inkling of what you're talkin about

 

[Bikini Mod]

your link isnt working BM

Ooooppsss. I left out the "n".... should work now.

And Bino, you are functioning under the basic assumption that many people haven't already nearly destroyed their metabolisms with yo-yo dieting and waaaaaaaay too much cardio. What are you going to do to "simple fix that?"

CW - I totally forgot about having to constantly change stuff up to continue the client's progress. I've not worn the PT hat for nearly 3 years.

SALEs, SALES, SALES!!! I floundered for a coupla months till I got it. I was one of the best trainers that the gym where I was working at had seen in a long time but my sales skills SUCKED. I had to learn quick though as the bill collectors didn't give a fat rat's ass about my "sales learning curve." Funny thing when I had to testify recently at the US SEC they stopped me early on saying, "For someone who had no formal education and such little experience in the fundraising industry you sure know a lot about the business (sales) end of it." (was one of the most genuine compliments I'd had in years) I told them that I learned the basics when I was a PERSONAL TRAINER! LOL

There is SO MUCH to personal training that most people have NO CLUE goes into actually being able to earn a living at it. Most people, like Bino (not a perosnal slight I used to think it too until I started working as one) think, "What's the big deal? I mean, if I can keep myself from being a fat slob then how hard could it be for me to reform fatties?" (In other words) if I can do it for myself, then how hard could it be for me to get paid to tell other people how to do it. I mean it isn't rocket science.... right?

I truly enjoyed many aspects of personal training, the constant mental stimulation (I was always getting clients with different issues so I made it my business to learn as much as I could so that I could at least not harm them, at best help them IN SPITE of their issues), human contact/social aspect, complimentary gym membership and on-premise childcare but the downside (LOT OF WORK, not NEARLY ENOUGH money) had me looking for another career path shortly after earning my certification (which was accepted by most gyms but hardly prestigious) and working for about 7/8 months or so.

 

[ponyfitness]

Best post ive seen so far

How do you like personal training brotha

BM is right on when it comes to the business. Young guys get into it thinking that it's going to be non stop pussy and lifting weights. Then reality hits in the form of a 43 year old with saggy everything who wants to look like a fitness model and you have to convince them that being able to touch their toes is enough of a goal. And that they should pay you hundreds of dollars a week to reach that because it will extend their quality of life.

 

[Bikini Mod]

BM is right on when it comes to the business. Young guys get into it thinking that it's going to be non stop pussy and lifting weights. Then reality hits in the form of a 43 year old with saggy everything who wants to look like a fitness model and you have to convince them that being able to touch their toes is enough of a goal. And that they should pay you hundreds of dollars a week to reach that because it will extend their quality of life.

^^^ short, sweet, to the point and 100% on the money.

 

[chris302001]

Isn't there some sort of regulatory body for certification? I mean, come on....

Oh, and way to spit in the face of everyone on this site who is/has been a legitimate trainer. LOL @ you wondering why everybody is talking shit...

 

[binö]

you're an idiot for this reply.

go be a trainer and tell me how it works out for you lol

BM is spot on. it's not an easy job. im not even talkign about the business side, which is 80% of the job.


yeah. i bet you could sell a PT package, keep your client interested and focused, retain them for more sessions...and constantly stagger their workout on top of dealing with their injuries by modding their exercises.

on top of all the bullshitting and yappin you have to do while you're with them because 90% of your clients want to talk

good luck buddy. i love you bino but you need to stfu because you haven't an inkling of what you're talkin about

nah you need to stfu and hear me out.
i'm not talking about training a nfl athlete to run faster, or taking on a jared sized fatty and turning him into ronnie coleman...i'm talking about helping a bro get into a weight lifting regiem and make progress...honestly i've done it quite a few times, got peeps rolling with the wieghts and some general principals.
it's not that difficult bro, and i'm not some dumbass n00b...most people who start weight lifting pickup the sport this way, you don't need to go to some rediciulous miami style gym with dj and pay a trainer $3000 to learn how to bench press and do preacher curls.

 

[mrplunkey]

BM is right on when it comes to the business. Young guys get into it thinking that it's going to be non stop pussy and lifting weights. Then reality hits in the form of a 43 year old with saggy everything who wants to look like a fitness model and you have to convince them that being able to touch their toes is enough of a goal. And that they should pay you hundreds of dollars a week to reach that because it will extend their quality of life.

This concept drives both my avatar as well as the reason behind why I am so reluctant to change it.

You could pile-up every 20-something buff guy in the world who thinks training is about getting ass and lifting weights and it still wouldn't add-up to the number of people Richard has helped.

Yes guys an effeminate, soft-all-over, flaming gay guy owns every last one of you.

 

[Bikini Mod]

nah you need to stfu and hear me out.
i'm not talking about training a nfl athlete to run faster, or taking on a jared sized fatty and turning him into ronnie coleman...i'm talking about helping a bro get into a weight lifting regiem and make progress...honestly i've done it quite a few times, got peeps rolling with the wieghts and some general principals.
it's not that difficult bro, and i'm not some dumbass n00b...most people who start weight lifting pickup the sport this way, you don't need to go to some rediciulous miami style gym with dj and pay a trainer $3000 to learn how to bench press and do preacher curls.

You are missing the point completely. By your post YOU ASSUME that every person into health and fitness is into bodybuilding or at the very least, lifting weights. Guess what?

THEY ARE NOT.

Which leads to the relevant question:

How much did these "good bros" PAY you?

I would give countless hours/insane amounts of info FOR FREE too. So I thought to myself, shit, why not get paid?

When I stopped "giving the answers away FOR FREE" people stopped constantly asking for FREE advice.

Now factor into that the equation the THE VAST MAJORITY of people who can afford and who are willing to pay for a trainer don't give a fat rat's ass about bench presses or preacher curls, not to mention that many of the movements are contra-indicated/not particularly interesting/attractive to those people.

THEN WHAT DO YOU DO?

Now that we got that part out of the way, do you have A CLUE what THE REAL hourly wage of MOST trainers (starting out or even who have been at it for awhile) is?

 

[Bikini Mod]

Isn't there some sort of regulatory body for certification? I mean, come on....

Oh, and way to spit in the face of everyone on this site who is/has been a legitimate trainer. LOL @ you wondering why everybody is talking shit...

Actually there isn't. Most chain gyms will ask for a basic minimum type of certification though, obviously the ones where you have to study intensely and NO OPEN BOOK EXAM are preferred and a four year degree in sports sciences or physiology whathave you trumps those. Many will also take advantage of THEIR STAFF though by having the trainers PAY FOR and attend some sort of "in-house" training for extra pay within the chain of gyms - TOTALLY WORTHLESS in the real world though. So you are essentially paying them so they can pay you a few dollars more per hour whenever you sell and train your clients.

But even with all the degree and certifications in the world an older trainer trumps the younger ones for the reason that until *a body* has aged a bit they won't realize how fragile the human condition is. Reading about injury/limitation and LIVING THEM are two completely different realitis.

I will never forget one training session us trainers were having with the head cheese (very well-schooled guy) at WOW (mid-sized chain of gyms on east coast). He was showing us different/newer training techniques. For the most part the presentation was VERY helpfull and informative. But he goes and shows us this one movement (everyone in the room was under 30 and though some were in good shape none had really pushed their bodies to the limit the way I did) and I say, "I would NEVER ask any of my clients to perform that movement. Geeze my knees are screaming just WATCHING you. LOL" He said, "Well it isn't hurting me so why wouldn't I ask one of my clients to do it?"

My reply?

"Simple. If I KNOW it will hurt me and I also know several other movements that are at least as, if not more effective than the one you just showed me then wouldn't it makes sense for me to err on the side of caution and show my clients all of the other movements instead?"

He paused for a moment and verbalized that I was 100% correct. Which was not an easy thing to do for him as he had a far more impressive educational background and far more impressive work resume then me, not to mention that he was a younger MAN who was also my (and everybody else in the entire PT staff in a chain of about 10 gyms) superior. He was extremely gracious and I will never forget that. Also taught me that though education and work experience are very important, LIFE EXPERIENCE is also extremely valuable.

 

[Razorguns]

Look, go cheer yourself up, go flex in a mirror, maybe jerk off to a picture of yourself, then come back here on the board, post pictures, and seek more approval from anonymous people, you pitiful child.

Damn you're brutal! *Backs off*.

r

 

[calveless wonder]

nah you need to stfu and hear me out.
i'm not talking about training a nfl athlete to run faster, or taking on a jared sized fatty and turning him into ronnie coleman...i'm talking about helping a bro get into a weight lifting regiem and make progress...honestly i've done it quite a few times, got peeps rolling with the wieghts and some general principals.
it's not that difficult bro, and i'm not some dumbass n00b...most people who start weight lifting pickup the sport this way, you don't need to go to some rediciulous miami style gym with dj and pay a trainer $3000 to learn how to bench press and do preacher curls.

lol. you still don't know what you're talking about.
it's not that simple. TRAINING IS NOT THE ONLY ASPECT OF BEING A TRAINER. Not every client is even motivated.

BM pretty much owned you on this thread.

you can't talk about a profession you know nothign about or havent been involved in. i don't sit here and tell you i think being a firefighter is an easy job (well, i guess sitting around and playing xbox when you're not on a call is)

 

[binö]

lol. you still don't know what you're talking about.
it's not that simple. TRAINING IS NOT THE ONLY ASPECT OF BEING A TRAINER. Not every client is even motivated.

BM pretty much owned you on this thread.

you can't talk about a profession you know nothign about or havent been involved in. i don't sit here and tell you i think being a firefighter is an easy job (well, i guess sitting around and playing xbox when you're not on a call is)

i'm sorry that you failed as a PT...i feel confident in my skills, knowledge and track record that i could be a good trainer.
fire analogy-fail, i understand weight training and human communication...you can offer me nothing about wildland fire
don't hate

 

[calveless wonder]

i'm sorry that you failed as a PT...i feel confident in my skills, knowledge and track record that i could be a good trainer.
fire analogy-fail, i understand weight training and human communication...you can offer me nothing about wildland fire
don't hate

lol @ failed as a PT and trying to personally attack my credentials.

where did i fail? The money is not worth the effort you have to put in. It's primarily a sales driven business. For that, its much better to be in a different sales position

again, you're speculating with no basis for anything. You know how many PTs have that mentality then be trainers and fall on their face? Most.
you're not a businessman or salesman...so how are you goign to tell me you'd be a great PT?

your unwarranted arrogance is irritating, to say the least. and everyone who's been a trainer or is now agrees with the sentiments i just shared.

you = done in this debate

 

[musclemom]

Damn you're brutal! *Backs off*.

r

OMG! I got RG to say I'm brutal!!! Fuckin' A you made my day!

Yessss, I am within eyeshot of evil bitch status!

 

[Bikini Mod]

LOL@Bino thinking he could remotely succeed as a personal trainer because "some good bros" took his FREE ADVICE about basic weight lifting.

Hey Bino - talk to us when someone actually PAYS YOU for same advice. Till then, sorry but you gots no leg to stand on.

Aside from that, let's have a little fun, shall we?

How would you BEGIN the approach for training a client with my husband's profile? You know, an older man with a coupla bucks to burn, told by his physician he'd better make some changes or he may end up taking the great dirt nap sooner than later. (Believe it or not even something as serious as physician warning and medications aren't always enough to get MOST PEOPLE to actually pay a fitness professional for their guidance.)

Now tell me how you would SELL HIM. Why should he give YOU his money and not the gaggle of other PT's that the gym pays a whopping 7 dollars an hour to re-rack the weights that all the jooseheads with no kinda gym etiquitte leave laying all over the place.

Finally tell me how much of the hourly rate that the gym charges him will actually go into YOUR POCKET and WHEN do you think it will actually go INTO YOUR POCKET. (You'd better damned well believe that shit got taken out IN FULL from his bank account once he signed on the bottom line. But when and how much of that money will actually hit YOUR BANK ACCOUNT is a horse of another color.)

 

[the.gladiator1987]

You guys are so dumb, you are making it seem like personal training is not a good job just because it didnt work out for you. Well you obviously didnt have enough passion for it, you just wanted more money. Well you dont deserve to be fucking personal trainers then do you?

And its pretty simple concept. Wow a flabby girl, just have her start doing light dumbbell exercises. NOt that hard. He has high blood pressure? Go ask a doc and see if he says ok, if he does then great were good to go. Back problems? Ill start at basic movements and see what hurts him and go from there.

Its not fucking hard. Sales? My body sells, sorry your bodies didnt. My looks also sell. I bet half my clients pick me just because I look good, they could give a fuck about training. You think a teenage guy that benches 135 sees me and isnt gonna want to know whats up?

I havetalked to a lot of succesful personal trainers, and they love it.

AND AND AND they come to me, not the other way around. They want me so they can pick me or not. As long as you are friendly and offer competitive prices then its up to them. You dont need to be a sales expert. Maybe you guys did but Not every PT has to be.

Personal training is not hard. You would be surprised to know how much I actually know about this shit. Im gonna be successful whether I have the dumbest ass certificate on earth or 20 certs. Its not hard to tell people what to do. You cant really tell me its hard because you dont know my position, I dont even have to do sales the 19 y/o manager puts them under me.

Piece of cake! Fat loss = diet, cardio, toned training
muscle gain = calorie surplus diet, heavy training

 

[PICK3]

You guys are so dumb, you are making it seem like personal training is not a good job just because it didnt work out for you. Well you obviously didnt have enough passion for it, you just wanted more money. Well you dont deserve to be fucking personal trainers then do you?

And its pretty simple concept. Wow a flabby girl, just have her start doing light dumbbell exercises. NOt that hard. He has high blood pressure? Go ask a doc and see if he says ok, if he does then great were good to go. Back problems? Ill start at basic movements and see what hurts him and go from there.

Its not fucking hard. Sales? My body sells, sorry your bodies didnt. My looks also sell. I bet half my clients pick me just because I look good, they could give a fuck about training. You think a teenage guy that benches 135 sees me and isnt gonna want to know whats up?

I havetalked to a lot of succesful personal trainers, and they love it.

AND AND AND they come to me, not the other way around. They want me so they can pick me or not. As long as you are friendly and offer competitive prices then its up to them. You dont need to be a sales expert. Maybe you guys did but Not every PT has to be.

Personal training is not hard. You would be surprised to know how much I actually know about this shit. Im gonna be successful whether I have the dumbest ass certificate on earth or 20 certs. Its not hard to tell people what to do. You cant really tell me its hard because you dont know my position, I dont even have to do sales the 19 y/o manager puts them under me.

Piece of cake! Fat loss = diet, cardio, toned training
muscle gain = calorie surplus diet, heavy training

I could train you how to score teh poon.

 

[75th]

You guys are so dumb, you are making it seem like personal training is not a good job just because it didnt work out for you. Well you obviously didnt have enough passion for it, you just wanted more money. Well you dont deserve to be fucking personal trainers then do you?

And its pretty simple concept. Wow a flabby girl, just have her start doing light dumbbell exercises. NOt that hard. He has high blood pressure? Go ask a doc and see if he says ok, if he does then great were good to go. Back problems? Ill start at basic movements and see what hurts him and go from there.

Its not fucking hard. Sales? My body sells, sorry your bodies didnt. My looks also sell. I bet half my clients pick me just because I look good, they could give a fuck about training. You think a teenage guy that benches 135 sees me and isnt gonna want to know whats up?

I havetalked to a lot of succesful personal trainers, and they love it.

AND AND AND they come to me, not the other way around. They want me so they can pick me or not. As long as you are friendly and offer competitive prices then its up to them. You dont need to be a sales expert. Maybe you guys did but Not every PT has to be.

Personal training is not hard. You would be surprised to know how much I actually know about this shit. Im gonna be successful whether I have the dumbest ass certificate on earth or 20 certs. Its not hard to tell people what to do. You cant really tell me its hard because you dont know my position, I dont even have to do sales the 19 y/o manager puts them under me.

Piece of cake! Fat loss = diet, cardio, toned training
muscle gain = calorie surplus diet, heavy training

 

[75th]

How many cycles have you done, by the way?

 

[iggy]

glad its a lot harder. . . .

its good to be very confident. bad to be overconfident.

follow your dreams. but you have to have the outlook on charismatically caring about helping people succeed with their goals.

it is a rough business to get into. and the more clients you have the harder you will find it to be.

like ive told you before, my buddy who makes a TON pting has 21' biceps. he is so charismatic that one of his clients who was rich actually tried to buy him a crotch rocket. but he cares a TON about their success.

find a mentor. its the best thing to do.

someone who is very successful/huge and can take you under their wing.

its what i did with my buddy who is a PT. im just not NEAR as big enough as i want to be to really do it to make a career.

once my biceps hit 18' and im deadlifting 5-600 i will be ready to go. until then im going to pick up a ton of certs and sculpt my body.

remember to be smart.

and this thread better not get as long as your other ones. lol

 

[the.gladiator1987]

How many cycles have you done, by the way?

1 i know im blessed

 

[miplank]

lolol

 

[iggy]

glad, whats up with the tags?

you gave pick3 dome?

c'mon man!!!!

your better than that

 

[the.gladiator1987]

glad, whats up with the tags?

you gave pick3 dome?

c'mon man!!!!

your better than that

dude the homo pick3 did that, i dont even know how to put up tags

 

[PICK3]

dude the homo pick3 did that, i dont even know how to put up tags

I'm str8

 

[samoth]

This kid is a really entertaining flame. Props to whichever one of you is behind his username.

 

[Bikini Mod]

You guys are so dumb, you are making it seem like personal training is not a good job just because it didnt work out for you. Well you obviously didnt have enough passion for it, you just wanted more money. Well you dont deserve to be fucking personal trainers then do you?

And its pretty simple concept. Wow a flabby girl, just have her start doing light dumbbell exercises. NOt that hard. He has high blood pressure? Go ask a doc and see if he says ok, if he does then great were good to go. Back problems? Ill start at basic movements and see what hurts him and go from there.

Its not fucking hard. Sales? My body sells, sorry your bodies didnt. My looks also sell. I bet half my clients pick me just because I look good, they could give a fuck about training. You think a teenage guy that benches 135 sees me and isnt gonna want to know whats up?

I havetalked to a lot of succesful personal trainers, and they love it.

AND AND AND they come to me, not the other way around. They want me so they can pick me or not. As long as you are friendly and offer competitive prices then its up to them. You dont need to be a sales expert. Maybe you guys did but Not every PT has to be.

Personal training is not hard. You would be surprised to know how much I actually know about this shit. Im gonna be successful whether I have the dumbest ass certificate on earth or 20 certs. Its not hard to tell people what to do. You cant really tell me its hard because you dont know my position, I dont even have to do sales the 19 y/o manager puts them under me.

Piece of cake! Fat loss = diet, cardio, toned training
muscle gain = calorie surplus diet, heavy training

Did you just call someone else dumb?

Obviously I was successfull if I could support myself, four kids and a gaggle of attorneys for nearly 2 years. We lived just above poverty level, but hey, the government gave us food stamps and my attorneys got paid too (well, I am still paying for them, but who's counting)?

No one said that it was impossible to make a living with this line of work. What we ssid was that the amount of work you do is not on paar the amount of pay. But who are we to decide what "adequate pay" is for you? Clearly you are happy by setting the bar low. Rock on my brother... rock on.

High blood pressure goes hand in hand with people that are inactive and have poor diets/are overweight. Not always, but usually. You never told me what you would do to address this ONE issue SPECIFICALLY and the answer is not all that complicated, but you have a great body so why should any of your potential clients care if you put them at risk with your obvious lack of knowledge regarding the simplest aspects of health and wellness.

I repeat - not everyone wants to have super=hyuge joose muscles and those who do WONT pay you shit to get them. They will give that money to the guys who sell them joose. So now what SPECIFICALLY do you have to offer to the people who actually care about what you know about THEIR GOALS?

You also never told me how you would approach training someone like my husband - you know, the guy with the expendable cash to hire you but who will hire you based on WHAT YOU KNOW. He's married to me, hello - why should he give A FUCK about how you look?

PS - in case you missed my site www.bikinemu.com that's ME in my avatar... taken in my mid 30's after I had FOUR KIDS. That still don't mean DIDDLY about me properly addressing the goals of others taking into consideration their physical limitations. It took me A LOT of years of experience and some hard studying on my part just to begin to scratch the surface. And when I got there I realized I just wasn't being paid enough for how hard I had to work.

LOL My second daughter brought that to my attention when she was only TEN YEARS OLD. I don't see why it's such a difficult concept to grasp.

Knock yourself out. We are all talking out of our assholes. I can't WAIT to read your posts bout 3 months from now based purely on the fact that your direct superior will be a NINETEEN YEAR OLD GIRL. Shit, I have thongs that are older than that. I can't begin to imagine what it would be like to be told WHAT TO DO AT MY JOB from a girl that is younger than me.

 

[75th]

1 i know im blessed

I actually looked similar natural...but then again I have 5 years of work on you.

Why the fuck you using steroids if youre barely old enough to drink anyway? You know that your body produces testosterone, right?

 

[the.gladiator1987]

Did you just call someone else dumb?

Obviously I was successfull if I could support myself, four kids and a gaggle of attorneys for nearly 2 years. We lived just above poverty level, but hey, the government gave us food stamps and my attorneys got paid too (well, I am still paying for them, but who's counting)?

No one said that it was impossible to make a living with this line of work. What we ssid was that the amount of work you do is not on paar the amount of pay. But who are we to decide what "adequate pay" is for you? Clearly you are happy by setting the bar low. Rock on my brother... rock on.

High blood pressure goes hand in hand with people that are inactive and have poor diets/are overweight. Not always, but usually. You never told me what you would do to address this ONE issue SPECIFICALLY and the answer is not all that complicated, but you have a great body so why should any of your potential clients care if you put them at risk with your obvious lack of knowledge regarding the simplest aspects of health and wellness.

I repeat - not everyone wants to have super=hyuge joose muscles and those who do WONT pay you shit to get them. They will give that money to the guys who sell them joose. So now what SPECIFICALLY do you have to offer to the people who actually care about what you know about THEIR GOALS?

You also never told me how you would approach training someone like my husband - you know, the guy with the expendable cash to hire you but who will hire you based on WHAT YOU KNOW. He's married to me, hello - why should he give A FUCK about how you look?

PS - in case you missed my site www.bikinemu.com that's ME in my avatar... taken in my mid 30's after I had FOUR KIDS. That still don't mean DIDDLY about me properly addressing the goals of others taking into consideration their physical limitations. It took me A LOT of years of experience and some hard studying on my part just to begin to scratch the surface. And when I got there I realized I just wasn't being paid enough for how hard I had to work.

LOL My second daughter brought that to my attention when she was only TEN YEARS OLD. I don't see why it's such a difficult concept to grasp.

Knock yourself out. We are all talking out of our assholes. I can't WAIT to read your posts bout 3 months from now based purely on the fact that your direct superior will be a NINETEEN YEAR OLD GIRL. Shit, I have thongs that are older than that. I can't begin to imagine what it would be like to be told WHAT TO DO AT MY JOB from a girl that is younger than me.

16/hr is setting the bar low? Youre fucking hilarious, you are right about not knowing my adequate pay. I dont need a lot of money, lifes not about money to me sorry.

I actually think its pretty cool that shes 19, i wouldnt want an old hag like you that just bitches and thinks she is the shit. I wouldnt train someone like your husband because hes the kind of asshole that would judge everything i do and take life so god damn serious and probably ask me these stuid ass questions!

What goals are you talking about? Any goal and I will be able to help them, its not fucking rocket science. Really its not. Name a specific goal and ill tell you how to get there. High blood pressure? Thats not a goal thats a symptom that isnt going to affect the way i train them. Changing their diet and havign them exercise will lower it. Simple as that, im not a fucking doctor im a trainer. You want meds for BP go to your doctor. Thats what I would say

 

[Razorguns]

Well good going Gladiator! You must be new here.

r

 

[75th]

16/hr is setting the bar low? Youre fucking hilarious, you are right about not knowing my adequate pay. I dont need a lot of money, lifes not about money to me sorry.

I actually think its pretty cool that shes 19, i wouldnt want an old hag like you that just bitches and thinks she is the shit. I wouldnt train someone like your husband because hes the kind of asshole that would judge everything i do and take life so god damn serious and probably ask me these stuid ass questions!

What goals are you talking about? Any goal and I will be able to help them, its not fucking rocket science. Really its not. Name a specific goal and ill tell you how to get there. High blood pressure? Thats not a goal thats a symptom that isnt going to affect the way i train them. Changing their diet and havign them exercise will lower it. Simple as that, im not a fucking doctor im a trainer. You want meds for BP go to your doctor. Thats what I would say

God forbid one of your clients would want to

A) Learn

or

B) Make sure their body is in good hands.




What did autistic people do before the internet?

 

[iggy]

lololololol

grump would be great to train.

put him on a 5x5 and hes already on HRT i believe.

get his diet tweaking and let him drink moderately one day a week max.

he would be getting cut as shit.

 

[the.gladiator1987]

Is grumpy old man bikini moms husband?

god forbid one of my clients would listen to me if he wanted to learn, otherwise why the fuck is he looking for a personal trainer?

god forbid like im gonna put these guys in a wheelchair or something like wtf do you think im gonna do to this guy? Make him work out so hard he has a stroke? WTF?

 

[Bikini Mod]

16/hr is setting the bar low? Youre fucking hilarious, you are right about not knowing my adequate pay. I dont need a lot of money, lifes not about money to me sorry.

I actually think its pretty cool that shes 19, i wouldnt want an old hag like you that just bitches and thinks she is the shit. I wouldnt train someone like your husband because hes the kind of asshole that would judge everything i do and take life so god damn serious and probably ask me these stuid ass questions!

What goals are you talking about? Any goal and I will be able to help them, its not fucking rocket science. Really its not. Name a specific goal and ill tell you how to get there. High blood pressure? Thats not a goal thats a symptom that isnt going to affect the way i train them. Changing their diet and havign them exercise will lower it. Simple as that, im not a fucking doctor im a trainer. You want meds for BP go to your doctor. Thats what I would say

How is my husband an asshole?

I told you his SPECIFIC LIMITATIONS. How would you train him and why should he hire YOU and not the other trainers at your gym?

What goals am I talking about? I told you his problems and why he came to seek out a personal trainer in the first place. Is that not specific enough?

OK - I will type it slow.

He is 58. Is overweight. He has had a lifetime of high blood pressure - even when he was a young man who was in otherwise good health and very active. But now he has high cholesterol too.

He has one knee that was blown out by a landmine flashette, then after it was put back together he got the knee cap blown off by a round. (Yes, that means bullet) He can't raise either of his hands above his head due to:

shrapnel

previous dislocations

overuse injuries due to improper instruction from wieght-
training coach in high school and competitive swimming, also was an ocean lifeguard

He also has a bullet permanently lodged in his back close to his L2 vertebrae. This bullet tore through his side and lodged in his back.

He also had one of his biceps shot up.

Every single one of these injuries happened when he was just about your age.

So now HOW WOULD YOU APPROACH TRAINING HIM?

As for me being your boss, that would never happen. You do not have the skill set I require my employees to possess. And no, you don't NEED a college degree. And Yes, I have and do regularly hire people with records.

Not a personal slight, just stating facts.

 

[Bikini Mod]

lololololol

grump would be great to train.

put him on a 5x5 and hes already on HRT i believe.

get his diet tweaking and let him drink moderately one day a week max.

he would be getting cut as shit.

My husband is a royal pain in the ass because he doesn't listen. LOL

Aside from that HE CANT LIFT WEIGHTS. So what would "the experts" recommend.

PS - In case ya'll missed the thread where for the first time since he was a young man his blood pressure (and now cholesterol) are NORMAL WITHOUT MEDS?!?!

I already know the answers to my questions as I have been advising/training him since we got married nearly 3 years ago. I just wanted to see what the wannabee experts came up with.... and as you can see iggy... so far they come up with BUBKISS.

 

[Bikini Mod]

Is grumpy old man bikini moms husband?

god forbid one of my clients would listen to me if he wanted to learn, otherwise why the fuck is he looking for a personal trainer?

god forbid like im gonna put these guys in a wheelchair or something like wtf do you think im gonna do to this guy? Make him work out so hard he has a stroke? WTF?

This post made ZERO sense.

MY HUSBAND IS PHYSICALLY INCAPABLE OF LIFTING WEIGHTS BECAUSE OF HIS SEVERELY DAMAGED JOINTS. SO HOW EXACTLY WOULD YOU TRAIN HIM SMART GUY?

An incompetent bobo such as yourself could very easily make his already damaged joints become TOTALLY useless. I am thinkin that is pretty severe. Don't you?

 

[the.gladiator1987]

How is my husband an asshole?

I told you his SPECIFIC LIMITATIONS. How would you train him and why should he hire YOU and not the other trainers at your gym?

What goals am I talking about? I told you his problems and why he came to seek out a personal trainer in the first place. Is that not specific enough?

OK - I will type it slow.

He is 58. Is overweight. He has had a lifetime of high blood pressure - even when he was a young man who was in otherwise good health and very active. But now he has high cholesterol too.

He has one knee that was blown out by a landmine flashette, then after it was put back together he got the knee cap blown off by a round. (Yes, that means bullet) He can't raise either of his hands above his head due to:

shrapnel

previous dislocations

overuse injuries due to improper instruction from wieght-
training coach in high school and competitive swimming, also was an ocean lifeguard

He also has a bullet permanently lodged in his back close to his L2 vertebrae. This bullet tore through his side and lodged in his back.

He also had one of his biceps shot up.

Every single one of these injuries happened when he was just about your age.

So now HOW WOULD YOU APPROACH TRAINING HIM?

As for me being your boss, that would never happen. You do not have the skill set I require my employees to possess. And no, you don't NEED a college degree. And Yes, I have and do regularly hire people with records.

Not a personal slight, just stating facts.

This is the most absurd fucking post ive ever read. First of all obviously i wont get 100% of my clients to agree with me, im only 21. He might look for someone older obviously.

That being said once again you take the most fucking extreme example. WHo the fuck am i gonna train that

- lifetime high blood pressure
-no knee cap
-cant raise his hands over his head
-a bullet in his lower back
-a blown up bicep


seriously? get real lady. I would probably see what motions hurt him, so i can see what he can and cant do and what exercises he can do. He wants to lose weight, does he want to build muscle? Or just stay toned?

blood pressure will drop due to diet and exercise. if he is overweight he is simply one of the many lost people in the US that dont give a fuck how they look. So simple, eat less and the right foods. Exercise

obviously wouldnt put him on squats/deadlifts. Would see how his back handles to bending forward, back, left right. no lat pulldowns, maybe cable rows.

seriously im just having fun with this because this will never fucking happen, and if it does once in a blue moon ill simply say i cant train you

 

[the.gladiator1987]

This post made ZERO sense.

MY HUSBAND IS PHYSICALLY INCAPABLE OF LIFTING WEIGHTS BECAUSE OF HIS SEVERELY DAMAGED JOINTS. SO HOW EXACTLY WOULD YOU TRAIN HIM SMART GUY?

An incompetent bobo such as yourself could very easily make his already damaged joints become TOTALLY useless. I am thinkin that is pretty severe. Don't you?

bobo?

probably start him on machines with light weight. common sense id say, yea? obviously he cant bulk the fuck up hes too prone too injury, yea? so start light, yea? make sense?

 

[Bikini Mod]

This is the most absurd fucking post ive ever read. First of all obviously i wont get 100% of my clients to agree with me, im only 21. He might look for someone older obviously.

That being said once again you take the most fucking extreme example. WHo the fuck am i gonna train that

- lifetime high blood pressure
-no knee cap
-cant raise his hands over his head
-a bullet in his lower back
-a blown up bicep


seriously? get real lady. I would probably see what motions hurt him, so i can see what he can and cant do and what exercises he can do. He wants to lose weight, does he want to build muscle? Or just stay toned?

blood pressure will drop due to diet and exercise. if he is overweight he is simply one of the many lost people in the US that dont give a fuck how they look. So simple, eat less and the right foods. Exercise

obviously wouldnt put him on squats/deadlifts. Would see how his back handles to bending forward, back, left right. no lat pulldowns, maybe cable rows.

seriously im just having fun with this because this will never fucking happen, and if it does once in a blue moon ill simply say i cant train you

He is a veteran of the Vietnam war dude, like many other veterans who were injured in combat. He acquired these injuries when HE WAS YOUR AGE.

HE CAN'T LIFT WEIGHT PERIOD. WHAT PART OF THAT DIDN'T YOU UNDERSTAND? SO HOW WOULD YOU TRAIN HIM?

I have tried to tell you gazillion times that the majority of my clients were JUST LIKE HIM - diabetic, kidney disease, broken necks, broken backs, obese and weakened to the point where they could not support their own weight long enoug to walk more than a few moments, hell the guy was so hyuge he could not fit into most of the equipment.

You gonna tell 70% of your clients to "fuck off" because they are "too hard for you to figure out how to train"?

BTW - I trained him properly and successfully. He has dropped significant bodyfat and has NORMAL blood pressure/cholesterol WITHOUT medication.

You had ample opportunity to demonstrate what you know in this thread and failed to do so every single time.

But I did enjoy the thread. Brought a little levity to my day.

Old hag? LMFAO... Was that THE BEST you could do?

 

[iggy]

i would start him out with tons of daily stretching/other ways to strengthen his muscles. eventually move on to basketball/swimming if its possible he can. or even cycling.

the only problem is if i had clients, i wouldn't let them quit pushing themselves until they achieved what they want to achieve.

if there is a will, theres a way

 

[Bikini Mod]

bobo?

probably start him on machines with light weight. common sense id say, yea? obviously he cant bulk the fuck up hes too prone too injury, yea? so start light, yea? make sense?

NO.

What part of "he can't raise his hands above his shoulders" didn't you understand?

He has NO FUNCTIONING right knee. He has pain just walking. Get it?

SO HOW WOULD YOU TRAIN HIM... EXACTLY?

He doesn't give a fuck about "competing" with you in the mirror. Dude has way too much going on to care.

So how would you approach training him and why should he hire you over the other trainers in YOUR gym? I hope you aren't "the best" they have to offer.

 

[iggy]

grump reminds me of my dad also.

dad is 58, vietnam war hero, his back is fucked up from being a carpenter 38 years. he just fucked up his shoulder and had to get surgery on it to re-attach the muscle.

he always did pushups, crunches, light bb rows, and stretching even though he is in the same shape grump is.

i would train grump like i would train my father.

 

[Bikini Mod]

i would start him out with tons of daily stretching/other ways to strengthen his muscles. eventually move on to basketball/swimming if its possible he can. or even cycling.

the only problem is if i had clients, i wouldn't let them quit pushing themselves until they achieved what they want to achieve.

if there is a will, theres a way

Iggy - though your answer was off you are THE ONLY ONE WHO EVEN CAME CLOSE.

I don't think you truly understand that my husband can't even walk on the treadmill for very long without his knee swelling up and causing him TREMENDOUS PAIN. Basketball is totally out then, wouldn't you say? Even if his knee wasn't screwed up, how could he shoot the ball when he can't raise either one of his arms above his head?

A good trainer would make it THEIR JOB to learn how to effectively address the limitations of every single client. Each client will have different limitations. A trainer should never EVER injure their client further, but my young brother, I see it every day in the gym... makes me want to scream. I feel badly for the people who are paying to get hurt. They want to accomplish a positive goal and are paying for it, but unfortunately like a doctor you never find out how bad one is until it is too late.

 

[iggy]

BM, i understand....
my dad is just like grump. his shoulder is so fucked up he cant lift it or sleep on it. he had to sleep for 4 months in a chair sitting up.

i'm only saying i would do all possible to find a way for him to burn excess calories and get his diet into track.

even if it meant only a sauna/steam room cold shower combo workout.

i would do all i could like a good personal trainer would

 

[Bikini Mod]

grump reminds me of my dad also.

dad is 58, vietnam war hero, his back is fucked up from being a carpenter 38 years. he just fucked up his shoulder and had to get surgery on it to re-attach the muscle.

he always did pushups, crunches, light bb rows, and stretching even though he is in the same shape grump is.

i would train grump like i would train my father.

Tell your dad two things:

"thank you for your service"

and

"check out aquatics"



He will get GREAT BENEFIT both strength and cardio with very little wear and tear on his joints. He doesn't even have to know how to swim. But tell him to make sure that he has a competent instructor. Too many of them are just aerobicschicks who haven't a clue how much more badly they are fucking their class participants up.

 

[iggy]

also, i would put grump on a wheel chair. make him shoot a womens ball underhand. if that was too much i would let him use the wheel chair to roll around faster and take him laser tagging.

i would find a way to do fun cardio with him.

 

[the.gladiator1987]

LMAO at this thread you killed it bikinimom by having to be right, its your way or the highway. I can only imagine if someone would ever walk up to me and have me train them when he could barely walk on a motherfuckin treadmill. get out of here with that garbage

I would change his diet. He eats like shit. my dad lost 70lbs in 90 days and no exercise.

 

[iggy]

hahha. my dads not really the swimmer type.

fortunately his knee is still okay. he cycles for cardio.

he had to give a speech in front of the whole town on memorial day.

 

[iggy]

glad, i believe BM ain't trying to be harsh bro.

shes only trying to point out that some of your clients will need special needs. they are all different.

you gotta become a pro at what is best for them.

 

[the.gladiator1987]

no way to be a pro at 21 bro. not tryin to be one either, ill just have to deny him because i wont want to hurt him

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