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OMEGA Blue Collar Diet

Re: OMEGA Blue Collar Diet (Phase 1 first 6 weeks)

hey Omega what about 1% milk. I love milk always have and always will. I have never felt the bloat that so many people speak of on here.
 
Re: OMEGA Blue Collar Diet (Phase 1 first 6 weeks)

Diet coke no more then 1 A day ( its bad for you)
if you must use a diet soda use: "DIET RITE"
http://www.dietrite.com/

mad with Splenda the best in my opinion

Coffee = OK nor more then twice a day

Double meat sandwiches shouldl never use NON roasted meat, every thing else is way to salty
 
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Ok so I assume this means I can't eat tuna for lunch then..

can I do chicken with rice or pasta.. with some vegetables.. for lunch.. is that enough of a complexe carb? or is it to complex more so then whole wheat bread.. making my food for tomorrow atm.. through out my tuna sandwhich..

would hamburger meat with rice or pasta.. and corn work.. I used to do this before.. nothing added for flavouring or anything, trying to get a lunch idea for tomorrow.. as I do not currently have any roasted meats.. but I can cook something! =)
 
Re: OMEGA Blue Collar Diet (Phase 1 first 6 weeks)

No you can eat ANY MEAT YOU WISH :)

just not salted deli meat that is processed
 
Re: OMEGA Blue Collar Diet (Phase 1 first 6 weeks)

OMEGA said:
No you can eat ANY MEAT YOU WISH :)

just not salted deli meat that is processed
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Oh oook awesome.. so I can eat my tuna sandwhich then.. I thought salty perserved meats.. might have ment tuna.. because it's perserved.. but it's relaly not that salty not in my opinion at least..

so can I mix the carbs up a bit for lunch, with pasta or rice? or are they to much to process over whole wheat bread... I used to enjoy eating hamburger meat.. or chicken.. with some rice or pasta.. and some corn.. or other leafy greens.. make like 5 of these a week and just pop em in the microwave at school/work.

your thoughts? =)
 
Re: OMEGA Blue Collar Diet (Phase 1 first 6 weeks)

Tuna in Water is usually NOT salty

you can mix and match ANYTHING the diet

I used was a TEMPLET of Ratios

so stay LOYAL to that and you cna do anything you wish.:)
 
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errn247 said:
hey Omega what about 1% milk. I love milk always have and always will. I have never felt the bloat that so many people speak of on here.
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Milk is great if it does not bloat you, you may use it as you wish
 
Re: OMEGA Blue Collar Diet (Phase 1 first 6 weeks)

OMEGA said:
Tuna in Water is usually NOT salty

you can mix and match ANYTHING the diet

I used was a TEMPLET of Ratios

so stay LOYAL to that and you cna do anything you wish.:)
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Fantastic, looking forward to getting back on track, I'm going to hit this very aggressively this next week. I'm excited to not be able to walk properly for 4 days again.. wooo =)
 
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errn247 said:
Thanks bro? Do these have the EFAs and Omega 3, 6 and others? if not then Ill take them in pill form.

I alos love red meat. Hook me up with a good marinade. You ever hear of chaka uummm sauce? I love that stuff.
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yes
 
Re: OMEGA Blue Collar Diet (Phase 1 first 6 weeks)

Needto good bro, is there anything I can do to spice up a tuna sandwhich.. not like hot spices.. because I'm not a fan.. but obviously I can't glob mayonaise all over that sun of a bitch, any thoughts ideas? I can only think of onions and black pepper..

also anything I can do with two breasts of chicken as that's going to be my meal tonight. =)

thanks a bunch

FC ! rawr
 
Re: OMEGA Blue Collar Diet (Phase 1 first 6 weeks)

mrs. dash has no sodium
tabasco
lemon juice
mustard

FriendlyCanadian said:
Needto good bro, is there anything I can do to spice up a tuna sandwhich.. not like hot spices.. because I'm not a fan.. but obviously I can't glob mayonaise all over that sun of a bitch, any thoughts ideas? I can only think of onions and black pepper..

also anything I can do with two breasts of chicken as that's going to be my meal tonight. =)

thanks a bunch

FC ! rawr
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Re: OMEGA Blue Collar Diet (Phase 1 first 6 weeks)

Need2 I read one of the vinegrette salad dressing recipes in here, is there anything in your arsenal of salad dressings for those leafy greens that is easy to make and still sorta tastey? like 2-4 ingredients.. that I might have some sort of idea what are? would be IDEAL aswell if I could just make alot of this dressing at a time.. maybe like a week two week supply, any ideas would be appreciated.. also ofcourse within the omega restrictions. =)
 
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FriendlyCanadian said:
Need2 I read one of the vinegrette salad dressing recipes in here, is there anything in your arsenal of salad dressings for those leafy greens that is easy to make and still sorta tastey? like 2-4 ingredients.. that I might have some sort of idea what are? would be IDEAL aswell if I could just make alot of this dressing at a time.. maybe like a week two week supply, any ideas would be appreciated.. also ofcourse within the omega restrictions. =)
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3 cup red wine vinegar
1 cup olive oil
1 cup splenda

boil in a pot till splenda dissolves.

This is a sweat red wine vinegar that restaurants use all the time because its cheap and they can make a shit load at a time. just remember 3 cups 1 cup 1 cup. If you want more 6 cups 2 cups 2 cups. Its made with reg sugar most of the time, but I don't see it not working with splenda.
 
Re: OMEGA Blue Collar Diet (Phase 1 first 6 weeks)

If you are shopping for ingredients and you don't know what they are. Just ask some one that works at the store. The will send you right to it every time.
 
Re: OMEGA Blue Collar Diet (Phase 1 first 6 weeks)

FriendlyCanadian said:
Needto good bro, is there anything I can do to spice up a tuna sandwhich.. not like hot spices.. because I'm not a fan.. but obviously I can't glob mayonaise all over that sun of a bitch, any thoughts ideas? I can only think of onions and black pepper..

also anything I can do with two breasts of chicken as that's going to be my meal tonight. =)

thanks a bunch

FC ! rawr
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instead of mayo use sandwhich spread. i just bought some 3gm fats and its low sodium. Taste good too
 
Re: OMEGA Blue Collar Diet (Phase 1 first 6 weeks)

needtogetaas said:
3 cup red wine vinegar
1 cup olive oil
1 cup splenda

boil in a pot till splenda dissolves.

This is a sweat red wine vinegar that restaurants use all the time because its cheap and they can make a shit load at a time. just remember 3 cups 1 cup 1 cup. If you want more 6 cups 2 cups 2 cups. Its made with reg sugar most of the time, but I don't see it not working with splenda.
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Cool thanks very much, ya I definately with ask someone where to locate these, hehe.

how long does this stuff last for after preperation, keep it refrigerated etc?
 
Re: OMEGA Blue Collar Diet (Phase 1 first 6 weeks)

errn247 said:
instead of mayo use sandwhich spread. i just bought some 3gm fats and its low sodium. Taste good too
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hmm sounds decent, who makes it? I'll see if I can find that next time, my tuna with pickles was fairly decent today.. it wasn't horrible, hehe.
 
Re: OMEGA Blue Collar Diet (Phase 1 first 6 weeks)

FriendlyCanadian said:
Cool thanks very much, ya I definately with ask someone where to locate these, hehe.

how long does this stuff last for after preperation, keep it refrigerated etc?
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you can keep it any where you like, It will last a life time.
 
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needtogetaas said:
you can keep it any where you like, It will last a life time.
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wiiicked thank you very much kind sir, any ideas on what kind of CHEAP easily accessible greens I can use, I'm a college student, so right now I just got this little mixed baby greens, it's easy I pop it open throw it on a plate etc.

easy and cheap are pretty much the most awesomely important things to me, hehe. =) I appreciate all your help needto and I take into consideration all your ideas. this is one of area of my life where I would like to improve on, on a regular basis not just because I'm doing a training program. =)
 
Re: OMEGA Blue Collar Diet (Phase 1 first 6 weeks)

FriendlyCanadian said:
wiiicked thank you very much kind sir, any ideas on what kind of CHEAP easily accessible greens I can use, I'm a college student, so right now I just got this little mixed baby greens, it's easy I pop it open throw it on a plate etc.

easy and cheap are pretty much the most awesomely important things to me, hehe. =) I appreciate all your help needto and I take into consideration all your ideas. this is one of area of my life where I would like to improve on, on a regular basis not just because I'm doing a training program. =)
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It is a lot cheaper to buy your own greens. Get some roman lettuce. It comes in a long head. You don't even need a knife you can just rip it up with your hands. 1 head will make 2 salads and it only cost a buck or 2.
 
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make up your own greens and place them in a zip lock bag with a peace of paper towel on each side of the bag. This will keep it from getting wet and spoiling ..You could go to the store and get 4-5 heads of roman rip it up and store it in daily servings like this.They will last like this for almost 2 weeks. Keep in mind if you cut any kind of lettuce with a knife it will spoil faster. So always rip it with your hands.
 
Re: OMEGA Blue Collar Diet (Phase 1 first 6 weeks)

needtogetaas said:
make up your own greens and place them in a zip lock bag with a peace of paper towel on each side of the bag. This will keep it from getting wet and spoiling ..You could go to the store and get 4-5 heads of roman rip it up and store it in daily servings like this.They will last like this for almost 2 weeks. Keep in mind if you cut any kind of lettuce with a knife it will spoil faster. So always rip it with your hands.
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Awesome thank you for the tip my friend, that'll save me some cash and it sounds easy. =)
 
Re: OMEGA Blue Collar Diet (Phase 1 first 6 weeks)

big loser2 said:
Needto
You got anything to curb a sweet tooth?
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SO is it candy type stuff you like? Or cakes and pastries? When do you find yourself craving this?
 
Re: OMEGA Blue Collar Diet (Phase 1 first 6 weeks)

Oatmeal and peanut butter cookies are my weakness. For some reason after a good meal I get the craving. The good thing is that I was never a fan of chocolate.
 
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Sugar Craving will be Solved with a nice piece of Fruit.

in my opinion the "sweetness Hunger" that comes after a meal is a result because your body is looking for a quick source of fuel to initialize the Process of Digestion.

I also noticed that Sweetness hunger comes from being Vitamin and Mineral Deficient
(which is why I take a Multi V now:)
 
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big loser2 said:
Oatmeal and peanut butter cookies are my weakness. For some reason after a good meal I get the craving. The good thing is that I was never a fan of chocolate.
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What omega said is a reason for a lot of people as well but from what you have said here Its fat you are craving. You need to add some more good fats to your diet.
fish,anpb, omega fats and this should help a lot. If you find you just can't go with out at least a bite of a snack after a meal try something like this

1 cup splenda

1/4 cup low fat yogurt butter

1/3 cup evaporated milk

1 cup peanut butter

1/2 tsp. vanilla

1 cup rolled oats

1/2 cup peanuts



Bring the sugar, butter, and milk to a rolling boil. Boil for 3 minutes, stirring frequently. Remove from heat and stir in the the peanut butter, vanilla, rolled oats, and peanuts. Drop by teaspoonfuls onto waxed paper. Let stand until set.


Stick to the diet plain that omega had laid out though. Keep in mind the time of day and the amount of carbs you are taking in. Some times just a small spoon full of anpb will work for some one that craves fats like you.



^^^^^ of course every thing I say is under omega and how it would fit into the plain he has laid out. So run it by him first.
 
Re: OMEGA Blue Collar Diet (Phase 1 first 6 weeks)

For those of you looking for a good marinade for chicken or red meat. i have been using chakas mmmmmmm sauce. i stopped when i started this cause i thought it was high in sodium and carbs. I looked at teh label and noticed it is not. I love this shit!!! I bought it at costco, or belairre grocery. Not sure where yall live but I am in nor cal and it is easy to find here.
 
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I also love to eat tuna now. i love a good tuna sandwich. i take 1 can which is 15 grams per serving with 2.5 grams per can. I mix it with some sandwich spread and it is off the hook!!!!. the spread is low fat, carb and sodium. It is a generic brand/
 
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hit me up any time for a recipe guys. If you make a post that I did not get to then send me a pm and I will get to it.
 
Re: OMEGA Blue Collar Diet (Phase 1 first 6 weeks)

Needto
When I take a week off for Christmas I will be going over a lot of your recipes. I read a lot of them already on the other forums and some sound KILLER.
Thanks
 
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big loser2 said:
Needto
When I take a week off for Christmas I will be going over a lot of your recipes. I read a lot of them already on the other forums and some sound KILLER.
Thanks
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Thanks. ask me for any thing bro.
 
Re: OMEGA Blue Collar Diet (Phase 1 first 6 weeks)

Hey needto. I wanna make some smoked salmon. Whatcha got?
 
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SugarTits said:
Hey needto. I wanna make some smoked salmon. Whatcha got?
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4 sheets (12x18-inches each) Heavy Duty Aluminum Foil
4 thin onion slices, separated in rings
2 medium carrots, cut in julienne strips or shredded
4 Alaska Salmon fillets (4 to 6 oz. each), fresh, thawed or frozen
2 teaspoons grated fresh ginger
2 Tablespoons seasoned rice vinegar
1 teaspoon sesame oil
Salt and pepper
Fresh spinach leaves


Preheat oven to 450ºF OR grill to medium-high.

Center onion and carrots on each sheet of Reynolds Wrap Heavy Duty Aluminum Foil. Top with salmon portion. Sprinkle with ginger; drizzle with vinegar and oil. Sprinkle with salt and pepper.

Bring up foil sides. Double fold top and ends to seal packet, leaving room for heat circulation inside. Repeat to make four packets.

Bake packets on a cookie sheet in oven, 21 to 25 minutes for frozen fillets OR 16 to 20 minutes for fresh/thawed fish OR GRILL frozen fish for 19 to 23 minutes or fresh/thawed fish for 14 to 18 minutes in covered grill. Cook just until fish is opaque(see tip) throughout. Serve salmon and vegetables on a bed of spinach. Sprinkle with additional seasoned rice vinegar, if desired.

tip

Fish can be prepared using almost any type of cooking method including baking, steaming, frying, grilling, broiling, or slow cooking. When cooking fish, care must be taken not to overcook the fillet, steak, or whole fish, which results in dry and somewhat tasteless meat. A general rule is to cook a fish 10 minutes for each inch of thickness. Realize that the fish continues to cook after removing it from the heat, so for a more flavorful result, begin checking for doneness prior to the 10 minutes per inch rule, allowing the fish to finish cooking as it sits prior to serving. Since the meat of the fish is somewhat translucent, it begins to become opaque as it cooks, which is another method of visually checking for doneness, especially for fillets that are most often not as thick as fish steaks. When fillets are opaque (white), it is an indicator of doneness. Some varieties of fish contain more fat, such as salmon or tuna, which can be cooked until opaque on the outside while remaining somewhat translucent on the inside. Another test to use for doneness is to check the meat with a knife to see if it is firm and beginning to separate or "flake". If the fish flakes too easily, it may be overcooked. The meat should slightly resist separating, but still be able to be separated, thus indicating it is moist and not too dry. When cooking fish that has not been boned, such as trout or pan fish, the meat should not drop off the bones, but instead should slightly resist removal.
Smoked Salmon Fillet
 
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needtogetaas said:
4 sheets (12x18-inches each) Heavy Duty Aluminum Foil
4 thin onion slices, separated in rings
2 medium carrots, cut in julienne strips or shredded
4 Alaska Salmon fillets (4 to 6 oz. each), fresh, thawed or frozen
2 teaspoons grated fresh ginger
2 Tablespoons seasoned rice vinegar
1 teaspoon sesame oil
Salt and pepper
Fresh spinach leaves


Preheat oven to 450ºF OR grill to medium-high.

Center onion and carrots on each sheet of Reynolds Wrap Heavy Duty Aluminum Foil. Top with salmon portion. Sprinkle with ginger; drizzle with vinegar and oil. Sprinkle with salt and pepper.

Bring up foil sides. Double fold top and ends to seal packet, leaving room for heat circulation inside. Repeat to make four packets.

Bake packets on a cookie sheet in oven, 21 to 25 minutes for frozen fillets OR 16 to 20 minutes for fresh/thawed fish OR GRILL frozen fish for 19 to 23 minutes or fresh/thawed fish for 14 to 18 minutes in covered grill. Cook just until fish is opaque(see tip) throughout. Serve salmon and vegetables on a bed of spinach. Sprinkle with additional seasoned rice vinegar, if desired.

tip

Fish can be prepared using almost any type of cooking method including baking, steaming, frying, grilling, broiling, or slow cooking. When cooking fish, care must be taken not to overcook the fillet, steak, or whole fish, which results in dry and somewhat tasteless meat. A general rule is to cook a fish 10 minutes for each inch of thickness. Realize that the fish continues to cook after removing it from the heat, so for a more flavorful result, begin checking for doneness prior to the 10 minutes per inch rule, allowing the fish to finish cooking as it sits prior to serving. Since the meat of the fish is somewhat translucent, it begins to become opaque as it cooks, which is another method of visually checking for doneness, especially for fillets that are most often not as thick as fish steaks. When fillets are opaque (white), it is an indicator of doneness. Some varieties of fish contain more fat, such as salmon or tuna, which can be cooked until opaque on the outside while remaining somewhat translucent on the inside. Another test to use for doneness is to check the meat with a knife to see if it is firm and beginning to separate or "flake". If the fish flakes too easily, it may be overcooked. The meat should slightly resist separating, but still be able to be separated, thus indicating it is moist and not too dry. When cooking fish that has not been boned, such as trout or pan fish, the meat should not drop off the bones, but instead should slightly resist removal.
Smoked Salmon Fillet
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Needto you are the man...good recipe..I am going to get my girl to make it...
 
Re: OMEGA Blue Collar Diet (Phase 1 first 6 weeks)

what about somikng some in a smoker? will this work for smoking it?
 
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Hey Omega what about subway? Are their meats ok? Sometimes my buddys ask me to go out to lunch I figure subway is a fair compromise.
 
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Subway is acceptable where BK or Mcd would NOT

mayo is fine, as is cheese, have a normal DOUBLE meat samwich

limit your self to the chicken though and use whole wheat bread.

also LoAD UP on greens
 
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OMEGA said:
Subway is acceptable where BK or Mcd would NOT

mayo is fine, as is cheese, have a normal DOUBLE meat samwich

limit your self to the chicken though and use whole wheat bread.

also LoAD UP on greens
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So turkey is a no go I usually just get a whole wheat sub with spicy mustard lettuce and tomato, with double meat.
 
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OMEGA said:
as long as the Turkey is Roasted your fine.
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Ok cool, How about for dinner can I have green beens or snow peas? Or just a salad? Oh yeah speaking of salad I usually eat baby spinach, should I switch to romaine?
 
Re: OMEGA Blue Collar Diet (Phase 1 first 6 weeks)

anything green

I say no carbs but its more geared towards processed carbs

just make sure to follow guide lines on carb intake
 
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needtogetaas said:
4 sheets (12x18-inches each) Heavy Duty Aluminum Foil
4 thin onion slices, separated in rings
2 medium carrots, cut in julienne strips or shredded
4 Alaska Salmon fillets (4 to 6 oz. each), fresh, thawed or frozen
2 teaspoons grated fresh ginger
2 Tablespoons seasoned rice vinegar
1 teaspoon sesame oil
Salt and pepper
Fresh spinach leaves


Preheat oven to 450ºF OR grill to medium-high.

Center onion and carrots on each sheet of Reynolds Wrap Heavy Duty Aluminum Foil. Top with salmon portion. Sprinkle with ginger; drizzle with vinegar and oil. Sprinkle with salt and pepper.

Bring up foil sides. Double fold top and ends to seal packet, leaving room for heat circulation inside. Repeat to make four packets.

Bake packets on a cookie sheet in oven, 21 to 25 minutes for frozen fillets OR 16 to 20 minutes for fresh/thawed fish OR GRILL frozen fish for 19 to 23 minutes or fresh/thawed fish for 14 to 18 minutes in covered grill. Cook just until fish is opaque(see tip) throughout. Serve salmon and vegetables on a bed of spinach. Sprinkle with additional seasoned rice vinegar, if desired.

tip

Fish can be prepared using almost any type of cooking method including baking, steaming, frying, grilling, broiling, or slow cooking. When cooking fish, care must be taken not to overcook the fillet, steak, or whole fish, which results in dry and somewhat tasteless meat. A general rule is to cook a fish 10 minutes for each inch of thickness. Realize that the fish continues to cook after removing it from the heat, so for a more flavorful result, begin checking for doneness prior to the 10 minutes per inch rule, allowing the fish to finish cooking as it sits prior to serving. Since the meat of the fish is somewhat translucent, it begins to become opaque as it cooks, which is another method of visually checking for doneness, especially for fillets that are most often not as thick as fish steaks. When fillets are opaque (white), it is an indicator of doneness. Some varieties of fish contain more fat, such as salmon or tuna, which can be cooked until opaque on the outside while remaining somewhat translucent on the inside. Another test to use for doneness is to check the meat with a knife to see if it is firm and beginning to separate or "flake". If the fish flakes too easily, it may be overcooked. The meat should slightly resist separating, but still be able to be separated, thus indicating it is moist and not too dry. When cooking fish that has not been boned, such as trout or pan fish, the meat should not drop off the bones, but instead should slightly resist removal.
Smoked Salmon Fillet
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I'm going to make this tonight.. and amber is going to "supervise" me doing it.. hah..

any good side dish to go with this N2? good "healthy" Omega approved sidedish..

that should be like the new saying..

this post is Omega approved, hehe
 
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FriendlyCanadian said:
I'm going to make this tonight.. and amber is going to "supervise" me doing it.. hah..

any good side dish to go with this N2? good "healthy" Omega approved sidedish..

that should be like the new saying..

this post is Omega approved, hehe
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Depend on the time of day you will be eating it... Its already got the veg so a starch or carb to go with it would be nice tee hee. Tell you what all let omega tell you what you can have at the time of the meal. then ill use it to make a recipe.

Brown rice, yams,reg patatos,more veg is never bad I guess. Lets let omega make the meal idea. Ill just cook it up and serve it in a taster way. :)
 
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this diet sounds great, but what if your always in a hurry in the morning. breakfast is the only meal i dont have time to grab and its the most important lol. I usually jsu mix a breakfast shake and im out the door. the rest of the diet i could follow perfectly. what can i do for breakfast?
 
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Soft Boil Eggs at night:) and run out the door with them and 2 pices of toast:)

then have a small shake later
 
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I am new to the Omega Project :) actually I do not start until 9/1, but I have been reading alot and want to start the diet portion early. I have a quiestion regarding the post work out shake.

For a post work out drink - I have been using this mix
PeptoPro (Hydrolyzed Caseinate) 25%
Amylocel (Waxy Maize Starch) 70%
Branched Chain Amino Acids (BCAA's) 5%

Serving Size 30 grams x 3 scoops
Total Calories 120 x 3 = 360
Fat 0
Carbohydrates 20.77g x 3 = 62g
Protein 8.25g x 3 = 25

And then I have been adding another scoop of protein powder 1/2 hour later for a total of 50 grams of protein + some flax seed oil. This powder is a mixture of Whey Protein Isolate Microfiltration, Micellar Casein, Egg White Protein.

Also the sandwich from subway - is this a foot long or 6" sandwich, I just had the 6" with double meat and I am still hungry.

Thanks for any help
 
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I use almost the SAME exact post-workout drink as leager330r (except I use 2 scoops) and do another scoop of whey 20 min later. I also start on 9/1 but wouldn't mind starting the diet early. I'll be interested to see what Omega says...
 
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I am sure Omega is going to say to add some creatine (10-20grams). I use a creatine, glutamine, taurine mix for my shakes which I find works well.
 
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Great thread! I read every post last night! I do have a few ?'s.
Double sandwich meat- this question came up asking for oz. I think a typical sandwich will have 3-4 oz of meat. so double would be 6-8oz. Can this be assumed

Next, I eat Ezekiel bread. It's organic sprouted grains. Prob the best out there imo. How's that for this diet?

For the 2nd and 3rd meals, I make a vinargrette which includes balsamic vinigar, olive oil, some lemon juice, and some feta. Is this fine?

I also use sea salt on my eggs and other stuff I cook. I noticed a lot about low sodium, but sea salt is organic and has 'nutritional' content. This ok? I use sparingly.

Also a question about soybean oil in mayo. It is a liquid that has been emulsified. I love mayo, but will an organic mayo be fine?

This should do it for now! If some stuff is not ok, I can definitly rough it!

Can't wait to start!
 
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I am assuming the bread for lunch is optional only. If I prefer sweet potatoes, or butternut squash, or if its in the house unsweetened beans, is this OK?
 
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great recipes needto!!!! just wondered, where do you shop predominately to get your food? are you a sams club kinda person?
 
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needtogetaas

any possible way for a 0 card ranch sauce that is healthy?! :)
 
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OMEGA said:
As far as I am concerned ANY carb expect white bread, rice or Flour will do.


Keep Post workout carbs to 45-60 grams total
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For PWO carbs, you said any will do but I want to be clear on something.

Should we use Milk PWO?

I'm tossing between 40WPI, 60WMS (then eat 1 hour later); or 2 glasses skim milk; 30 WPI; 1 large banana; basically 50 P; 60C (and then eat say 2 hours later).

Is the standard WMS/WPI then eat 1 hour later formulation championed by the late guardian more effective than milk/whey/banana? (the latter is nutritious and tastes better)
 
two questions. 1.) Where can i find waxy maize, and when i find it can i eat it as a carb omega? 2.)needto, do you have any breakfast recipes with eggs? like a special omelet or something really tasty?
 
iggy said:
two questions. 1.) Where can i find waxy maize, and when i find it can i eat it as a carb omega?
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I'd like to see Omega's response, but for now this is what I do. For the waxy maize, go to TrueProtein.com and custom make yours. Based on the forums there, the ideal mix seems to be:

75% Waxy Maize
10% Pepto Pro
10% Instantized BCAA's
5% Leucine

Spend the money and get the premium flavors, anything fruity. Trust me on that one.

I use 2 scoops of this mix and throw 10g of creatine in the shaker cup for my PWO. 15 minutes later, I use the Dymatize Whey Isolate and add an extra 5g of glutamine peptides (also available at True Protein). 45min-1hour later, I eat dinner (double up on protein, leafy greens, no carbs per blue collar diet).

Omega, anything I should do differently?
 
any of you guys ever go to proteinfactory? just wondered what good flavors are from there if so.
 
iggy said:
any of you guys ever go to proteinfactory? just wondered what good flavors are from there if so.
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I have about 10lbs of Big Blast, one of their flagship products, in a vanilla flavor. It tastes REALLY good, but I don't know if I'll be able to use it in the Omega program (has sugar, some carbs...essentially, a weight gainer so I don't know).
 
Omega: so many people on EF consume shitloads of calories, and are doing training splits like DC or 5x5 where most of the sets are prepratory, its only 3x weekly, and hence realistically, the routines probably burn fewer cals than walking.

How do all these people not get hugely fat? Is it just aas?

I mean, even on these routines, do they really need to eat all this? I see people putting large servings of cream in their "disciplined bulking diets" lol
 
desmond said:
Omega: so many people on EF consume shitloads of calories, and are doing training splits like DC or 5x5 where most of the sets are preparatory, its only 3x weekly, and hence realistically, the routines probably burn fewer cals than walking.

How do all these people not get hugely fat? Is it just aas?

genetics and coasting on those for a while till it catches up lol

I mean, even on these routines, do they really need to eat all this?

NO not at all

I see people putting large servings of cream in their "disciplined bulking diets" lol

LOL is all i can say, its kinda like when one guy who used to be on EF bragged he ate 3 chicken pot pies that were 1500 kcal each
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to address the flaws you have spotted:

Modern Bodybuilding seems to often need to go to extremes
IE. super Bulk, then super hard cutting, etc...

Its a waste of time and also somewhat toxic ( eating too much, or cutting too hard with Ephedrine and or other compounds etc)

In other words conventional Body Building is far too extreme.
I am still paying the price for my idiocy when I was younger

Milos Sarcev hit the nail on the head and said ( after many mistakes) : "

The body makes it best gains while somewhat lean; and that one should never fluctuate more then 15 pounds from On season Conditioning vs that of the OFF season."
 
Protein requirements:

How are we meant to not exceed the protein requirement. Mine is 200 and I suspect others on stage 1 may be similar.

- But if you add 50g WPI + glut = 65
- 1 extra shake as u say is fine during the day = 30
- both lunch/dinner meats are to be double meat = 50 (+for lunch, 10 from bread)x2
- 3 eggs, + 6 whites = 35 + 10 for bread = 45

So that's conservatively =65+30+50+50+45=240

Is it bad to be getting around this - I realise that's my stage 1 avg is at least 250, as I use beans (no added sugar) often as the carb source for both breakfast/lunch, and often use milk with the WPI PWO. I'm spot on on F and C (precisely for F, as I make up any gap in fish oil tablets lol, within 10 % for C, but rarely over C)

This is just for training days. No problems on off days
 
Desmond You may up it to 250 Since you did already complete a 1 first suquence not too long ago ( even if your starting it over again)
 
Omega:

what are your thoughts on fats PWO? I know your not a believer in the necessity of 100 GI carbs, but wondered what you thought of including whole milk in the PWO?

I was tempted to do it to get to my 90G Fat, but thought I'd seek your permission.

I was also tempted by this study too:

Elliot and colleagues compared the effect of fat-free milk, whole milk, and a higher dose of fat-free milk (to match the calories of the whole milk) taken 60 minutes post-resistance exercise.24 Whole milk was superior for increasing net protein balance. Interestingly, the calorie-matched dose of fat free milk containing 14.5g protein, versus 8.0g in the whole milk (an 81% advantage), but still got beaten. The investigators speculated over the possible mechanisms behind the outcome (insulin response, blood flow, subject response differences, fat content improving nitrogen retention), but end up dismissing each one in favor of concluding that further research is necessary to see if extra fat calories ingested with an amino acid source will increase muscle protein synthesis. Lingering questions notwithstanding, post-workout milkfat was the factor that clinched the victory – at least in overnight-fasted subjects.

see Fat and Insulin postworkout - UK-Muscle Body Building Community - Bodybuilding Forum
 
i dont know Des

have always shyed away form alot of fats POST workout when you have shakes etc

I could see for pure ectomorphs it may be of use

I do believe though when having Solid protein meals its VERY good to have a large dose of fats with them to give both metabolic energy and also extra energy to initialize protein re-synthesis
 
omega what about red meat day. with all of my leafy greens for dinner is it alright to eat 1lb of ground beef 93%lean. or should i eat 2 or more?
 
on Red meat day

DEF have a good dose of fats with them and then leafy greens too:)

its so health for you

the KEY is too not add any carbs with those meals ( or keep it under 15 grams) if you do then it spills over to fat

at 93% you would only maybe need a teaspoon or 2 of Olive oil or pat of butter
 
but how much is acceptable? 2 lbs 1lb? 3+? lol, i know you said you eat a lot on red meat day.
 
Ah Ok omega, I will ditch the fats post workout.

I will just have fats with all other meals.

OMEGA said:
i dont know Des

have always shyed away form alot of fats POST workout when you have shakes etc

I could see for pure ectomorphs it may be of use

I do believe though when having Solid protein meals its VERY good to have a large dose of fats with them to give both metabolic energy and also extra energy to initialize protein re-synthesis
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iggy

2 lbs of red meat in ONE day would be the higher end for you try not to have more then 1 lb at Dinner



2 lbs would be akin to 3 very large hamburgers to get an idea
 
iggy said:
but how much is acceptable? 2 lbs 1lb? 3+? lol, i know you said you eat a lot on red meat day.
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lol

Sorry Iggy, have to laugh at u thinking 2 lbs of meat was what Omega prescribed.

That's A SHIT LOAD. About 200g of protein in a meal lol, and 50-100g fat depending on the leanness of a cut (meats are 20-25% protein depending on leanness of cuts).

Even a pound is a shitload.
 
2 diet questions:

(1) when you prescribe carb intake, is this total carb, or is net carbs (as in the amount of carbs after deducting for fibre). I should have asked this one earlier?

(2) I think I have read that your not fan of nuts as part of the fan intake. Could u please confirm this is correct?

What about avocado's, seeds, or seed oils (flaxseed oil)? I recall u like EVOO and I assume u like fish oil.

What about including as some of our fat content dairy (cheese), and beef (on days other than beef day)?

I'm not fussed about this - I just want to do whats best if there is a best. I actually tried flaxoil on veggies today and I actually think it tastes great, so I'm happy to use this more.
 
1 yes subtract fiber as its inert ( though does possess kcals)

2 ovoCODO in moderation, olive oil YES its great, Fish YES and meat (cla) YES

NOT nuts, butter, cheese etc, they just seem to be stubborn fats that gain easy ESPECIALLY viscerally
 
OMEGA said:
1 yes subtract fiber as its inert ( though does possess kcals)

2 ovoCODO in moderation, olive oil YES its great, Fish YES and meat (cla) YES

NOT nuts, butter, cheese etc, they just seem to be stubborn fats that gain easy ESPECIALLY viscerally
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I should pop out the kangaroo. It is the best source of CLA. Pitty at times I just can't stand it lol. Will give it another try.

I have always thought wild game would like wild fish be particularly good for u - kangaroos have very little bf%
 
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