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Ok wtf using 800mg of test and lowered deca to 400 from 600 and having serious erection problems.

gymrat - were you completely recovered before starting this cycle? was your PCT successful? maybe that had something to do with it?

bruce / macro / ulter: about the proviron... it works... I'm taking it with tren (just because), though I think the test alone would be enough to keep my libido in check.... so why would proviron improve libido while on tren or deca.... proviron binds to SHBG, rendering test more powerful because it's unbound.... does either deca or test have any correlation to SHBG? Just trying to figure out why proviron would work in cases like this

also, a word to the wise.... deca or tren + proviron + test could equal some serious prostate issues (speaking from personal experience)
 
Re: Ok wtf using 800mg of test and lowered deca to 400 from 600 and having serious er

gymratforlife said:
lol but I am only 29.And never had problems before till Deca lol.If i drop the deca for the rest of my life I should go back to normal right?

Other factors besides gear....can be causing the problems........
 
gymratforlife said:
I lowered the deca and uped the test and still having some serious issues with erections.Does any have this problem also with that?This is driving me nuts.I just completely droped it but hope I will get back to normal now on test alone.WTF help lo. :worried: :worried: :worried:

Nandrolone alone= slight erection problems

Add Test= major erection problems and heavy shutdown PC.


Bruce had the same thing in an older post......deca alone=no deca dick and kept most (all i think) gains,.....next time he ran deca it was with test and he got deca dick..........

For me, test seems to be the shutdown culprit.
 
Re: Ok wtf using 800mg of test and lowered deca to 400 from 600 and having serious er

bigrand said:
Nandrolone alone= slight erection problems

Add Test= major erection problems and heavy shutdown PC.


Bruce had the same thing in an older post......deca alone=no deca dick and kept most (all i think) gains,.....next time he ran deca it was with test and he got deca dick..........

For me, test seems to be the shutdown culprit.
I dont think test is the issue because I have ran a million test cycles in the past with different compounds and by itself and never an issue.Had ran deca 2 times before and never an issue either till now but like other bros said I guess it can just get you all of the sudden.Im staying far away from that shit from now on thats all I know.Time to order some proviron too.
 
its just a cumulative effect from deca like macro said earlier; exposure to progestins + aging - once it happens it makes you realize how deca can fuck up your receptor systems to produce a deeper degree of shutdown and longer recovery period, just not worth it IMHO.
 
sometimes it's a mind game, once you get that shit stuck in your head it's hard to stop thinking about it. It causes a mental block. Everytime you go to fuck you think, oh shit I hope it doesn't fail me!
 
that is so true, when i couldn't nut after deca for a few months it was so mental, i'd be like oh yes i'm gonna cum this time, then i start thinking and no nut
 
Im just not fucking with that shit again going to stay on 400mg of test for at least the next 3 months then maybe add a little EQ in there or some dbol or drol depending on how i feel and look and if I decide to cut or bulk.
 
LVTitan said:
i know people that actually have libido issues with test only cycles

Yeah, Macro was talking about this, I think. Even on a test-only cycle you can have libido issues because your body steps up your estrogen production to match the excess testosterone.

Too much estrogen=loss of libido. That's why AIFM improves libido for some, because it deactivates the estrogen and leaves a bunch of horny test around.
 
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