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Sorry Sub, Allah and Jehovah are indeed not the same. Not even close.

Seriously? Allah and Jehovah are the same God. Subz was right in that they're different names for the same diety.

Islam and Christianity are both Abrahamic religions, difference being Christians trace Abraham through his family with Sarah and their child, Isaac and Muslims trace their past through Abraham, his wife Hagar and his first-born child, Ishmael. Both religions believe in the God of Abraham, Moses and Jesus.

You're wrong on this one buddy.
 
I'm sorry it doesn't matter to you, for now. I hope for your sake that will change one day. I mean that. And no, it's nowhere near the same. It's not even in the same stratosphere.

lol, that's funny stuff. This bullshit you learn and read is no different than the silver youtube videos and blogs Glad gets sucked into. You got conned at an early age and now you are living a life believing stuff as fake as the Easter Bunny. Nice Life
 
Seriously? Allah and Jehovah are the same God. Subz was right in that they're different names for the same diety.

Islam and Christianity are both Abrahamic religions, difference being Christians trace Abraham through his family with Sarah and their child, Isaac and Muslims trace their past through Abraham, his wife Hagar and his first-born child, Ishmael. Both religions believe in the God of Abraham, Moses and Jesus.

You're wrong on this one buddy.


Although I am well aware of what you stated. Probably a little better than you. For example, Hagar wasn't Abraham's wife. She was Sarah's handmaid.

Here's the monstrous difference between Allah and Jehovah..it's found in the difference between the Bible and the Koran. The depictions of God in both instances are like night and day. And the routes by which they were written, also night and day. One is God's word. One is not. With all due respect, and I mean that, they are not the same. It is a politically driven whitewash in an effort to soften the public view of Islam that God and Allah are the same.

And as I typically offer, please, don't take my word for it. Compare the Bible to the Koran for yourself. You will see what I'm talking about.
 
Seriously? Allah and Jehovah are the same God. Subz was right in that they're different names for the same diety.

Islam and Christianity are both Abrahamic religions, difference being Christians trace Abraham through his family with Sarah and their child, Isaac and Muslims trace their past through Abraham, his wife Hagar and his first-born child, Ishmael. Both religions believe in the God of Abraham, Moses and Jesus.

You're wrong on this one buddy.

He knows that. Anyone who has read the OT knows about Isaac and Ishmael.

Allah and God (YHWH) have different theological meanings today..so..at one point they were the same..today they are not. Not even close.
 
lol, that's funny stuff. This bullshit you learn and read is no different than the silver youtube videos and blogs Glad gets sucked into. You got conned at an early age and now you are living a life believing stuff as fake as the Easter Bunny. Nice Life


That's an interesting assessment given the fact you know next to nothing about my life, don't ya think? I would encourage you to start asking better questions. It would give your assertions alot more weight.

And yes, thank you, I do have a very nice life.

Lastly, I have no desire to argue with you Lartinos. You are welcome to believe however you wish. As am I. There's no need to be insulting.
 
That's an interesting assessment given the fact you know next to nothing about my life, don't ya think? I would encourage you to start asking better questions. It would give your assertions alot more weight.

And yes, thank you, I do have a very nice life.

Lastly, I have no desire to argue with you Lartinos. You are welcome to believe however you wish. As am I. There's no need to be insulting.

You are a smug and condescending moron. You believe in some wacky shit and it makes me question your opinion on not just religious issues.
 
Although I am well aware of what you stated. Probably a little better than you. For example, Hagar wasn't Abraham's wife. She was Sarah's handmaid.

Here's the monstrous difference between Allah and Jehovah..it's found in the difference between the Bible and the Koran. The depictions of God in both instances are like night and day. And the routes by which they were written, also night and day. One is God's word. One is not. With all due respect, and I mean that, they are not the same. It is a politically driven whitewash in an effort to soften the public view of Islam that God and Allah are the same.

And as I typically offer, please, don't take my word for it. Compare the Bible to the Koran for yourself. You will see what I'm talking about.

Lol @ you knowing more than me. You don't know me well enough to claim such a thing, so I'll start by telling you religion was one of my double majors and I've already read both the Bible and Qur'an in their entirety, but thanks for the recommendation.

Hagar was Sarah's handmaiden, but also Abraham's second wife who gave Abraham his first born child.

Gen 16:3: So after Abram had been living in Canaan ten years, Sarai his wife took her Egyptian slave Hagar and gave her to her husband to be his wife.

No offense, but you and Cindy are crazy to think the two are different. It doesn't matter that "Allah" in the Qur'an comes across differently than "YHWH" in the New Testament. Do you see, Cindy, how saying because they have different personalities that they are now two different people doesn't make sense?

If the one, true God you believe in truly exists, and you admit that Allah was at one point the same god as YHWH, and you now say they are two different people, then you're saying two gods exist, which makes no sense because I'm sure you consider yourself a monotheist.

Jewish people believe in the god as described in the OT and not the new, and one could argue the God described in the OT and NT seem like vastly different gods. They do. So do Jews not believe in the same God either because his personality is different from the OT to the NT?

And for that matter, since Muslims believe Yeshua was a prophet sent through Allah and you don't believe Allah is the same god as YHWH, does that mean the man you think is your savior was a polytheist?
 
the word religion is wholey inadequate when it comes to labeling the various philosophies, wisdom traditions and forms of mysticism that exist around the world. many of them vastly different from the abrahamic religions that we're commonly familiar with. but that doesnt stop people from using the word as a blanket term.
 
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