Nolva Or CLomid?

[Harj10]

Test Cyp 500 Mg/Week

Im only going to be able to get a hold of one? is it going to be good enough?


and if yeah wich one?

 

[BigRupe]

With the ability to get "research" clomid and research nolvadex I don't see why you can only get one and not both. Your PCT should be as comprehensive as possible.

 

[Mr.X]

Test Cyp 500 Mg/Week

Im only going to be able to get a hold of one? is it going to be good enough?


and if yeah wich one?

check out AG EF sponsors

 

[kbrkbr]

The answer you get here is likely to depend on whether someone is tryingto sell you something or not.

I personally use both, but if I were limited to one, I would chose clomid. Then again, clomid doesn't bother me the way it does many.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

really depends on personal response. Clomid is effective as PCT, though some people have issues with its oestrogenic side effects. Nolva is not as well established for HPGA restoration.

which one is better is going to depend a lot on the individual.

 

[ibn]

Test Cyp 500 Mg/Week

Im only going to be able to get a hold of one? is it going to be good enough?


and if yeah wich one?

you know your body, or if you dont yet, i sure would not be doing any cycle without nolva encase i need it during the cycle.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

if running test, either have an AI on hand or run it along side.

do you have an estro issues (high body fat, female/stubborn body fat, puffy nips, etc..)

 

[schneiderc2004]

Yeah, it all depends on the individual. Done some reserach and it seems that some people respond better to either one, same story with side effects (according to Anabolics 2005). From my experience, Nolva was enough for PCT since my cycles were not too complex and heavy due to health issues. I'm curious to try some Clomid later.

 

[ALIN]

Test Cyp 500 Mg/Week

Im only going to be able to get a hold of one? is it going to be good enough?


and if yeah wich one?

With cycle I would first suuggest a aromatase inhibitor like arimidex. second option would be nolva.

 

[Sanel27]

nolva if needed during the cycle for gyno, clomid for PCT..........

run them together at the end of the cycle as well for better and faster recovery

 

[tin2]

I've tried both and ill never touch clomid again... Nolva worked awsome for me .. clomid has way to many sides.. plus it can perm. fuk up ur vision. and make u suicidal

 

[macrophage69alpha]

tamoxifen does present similar issues with vision, though the issue is significantly less

as far as effectiveness....

Horm Res. 1987;28(2-4):219-29. Related Articles, Links


Antiestrogens as treatment of female and male infertilities.

Buvat J, Buvat-Herbaut M, Marcolin G, Ardaens-Boulier K.

Centre d'Etude de la Pathologie de l'Appareil Reproducteur et de la Psychosomatique (EPARP), Lille, France.

Antiestrogens are widely used to treat eugonadal anovulation, luteal phase deficiency (LPD) and oligospermia. This paper reviews the rationales, endocrine effects, profertility effects and side effects of these treatments. Furthermore, we present our own experience of the use of antiestrogens in this field. We have compared the results of clomiphene citrate (CC) to those of tamoxifen (TAM) in a randomized study including 66 infertile women presenting eugonadal anovulation (n = 26) or LPD (n = 40). Both drugs obtained the same pregnancy rate of 80% at 9 months in the anovulatory patients. Conversely, CC was superior to TAM in the LPD cases (pregnancy rates at 6 months of respectively 40 and 11%). The abortion rates were of 11% on CC versus 36% on TAM. Both drugs significantly increased the luteal phase length and plasma progesterone level to the same extent. The results of endometrial biopsies suggest that the difference in their effects on female fertility could result from a detrimental effect of TAM on endometrium. The rates of the side effects proved to be almost identical on both drugs. Thus the use of TAM is not justified as a first-step treatment in ovulation disturbances. TAM should be reserved for patients who experience severe visual side effects on CC. We have also tested TAM in 100 subfertile males. In the 92 oligospermic males, TAM significantly increased the mean sperm count only in the normogonadotropic patients, but as much whether oligospermia was idiopathic or not. Sperm improvement was not significantly related to any hormone criterion except basal serum FSH. The cumulative pregnancy rate was of 41.2% at 1 year. Whether TAM actually improves male fertility, and is superior to CC in this indication, remains to be confirmed in controlled studies.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

just a note- some people hate clomid (mainly for the emotional issues-though this is why clomid does not impact libido as tamox can). response is going to vary, some people are going to get better results or a better experience with one or the other. though clomifin is much better established for restoral of the HPGA

 

[imraan47]

with the research i have done at the moment i can say Nolva is better buy than Clomid because the sides associated with Clomid out rate it. if you are going to run Test, u should have nolva on hand and also run proper pct (HCG, Nolva) and may i suggest taking Arimidex throughtout cycle.