No gains from anavar?

[sandrar]

I've been on Anavar - oxandrolone - for 4 weeks now. I did 5mg for the first two weeks, then went up to 10. I take 5mgs in the morning, and 5 mgs in the evening. Im doing Anavar - oxandrolone - for strenght gain only, but so far Im only up to my previous top lifts (and only in biceps, tric, shoulders, and chest) The deadlift is heavy, and I cant do my earlier max lift yet.. The squat is the same.. My coach has little experience with women on steroids, but tells me it worked great on him, and that it should be even better on me.. And my gains on Anavar - oxandrolone - has been terrible.. There is no problem with my diet, or my training (and the anavar is real for sure, its been tested), I've had good gains without steroids earlier. Now Im thinking there might be a reseptor problem, that Anavar - oxandrolone - just doesnt do it for me, but I havent heard anythig like that before, with women... I've been adviced not to go longer than 6 weeks, and now I feel this whole cycle was waisted, a big mistake, because there is always a risk for me being tested also, so I really needed a succecful cycle NOW.. Anyone had this experience?

This is my first cycle.

Thanks

Woman, 22 years old

 

[Bikini Mod]

Don't know what to say as I have been told the contrary..... anavar is THE SHIT for females.

 

[sandrar]

Don't know what to say as I have been told the contrary..... anavar is THE SHIT for females.

So have I, thats why I am so confused and disappointed, and thinking something must be wrong with me. I've only heard about successful anavar cycles (on females), I thought maybe there were someone with similar experiences who wasn't telling about it. Its no fun to tell about bad cycles I guess anadrol must be the thing for me, haha..

 

[Gymgurl]

Could it have been fake??

 

[sandrar]

Could it have been fake??

It has been tested (..by WADA..!! An accident )So I know its real, I wouldnt have taken it if I wasnt sure it was 100% (..because it has to be out of my system when it's "time")

 

[Tatyana]

It was an oral yes?

If so it will clear fairly quickly.

Google for steroid clearance times and you will find some general times.

How are you certain you have made no gains?

Have you been tracking weight, body fat, bodymeasurements and your weights?

I know you are not up to your previous best lifts, but did you have any increase in weights at all?

 

[bw1]

I have known at least 5 women who have ran var several times. 5 mg never did shit for them. Most of them like to run 15-20mg. I know everyone is going to say "that's to much" but I have seen with my own eyes the difference in the results.

 

[bw1]

Some var info:

Anavar detailed information:
Anavar is a weak steroid with only a slight androgenic component. It has been shown that Anavar, when taken in reasonable dosages, rarely has any side effects. This is appreciated since Anavar was developed mostly for women and children. Anavar is one of the few steroids which does not cause an early stunting of growth in children since it does not prematurely close the epiphysial growth plates. For this reason Anavar is mostly used in children to stimulate growth and in women to prevent osteoporosis. Anavar causes very light virilization symptoms, if at all. This characteristic makes Anavar a favored remedy for female athletes since, at a daily dose of 10-30 mg, masculinizing symptoms are observed only rarely.

 

[sandrar]

It was an oral yes?

If so it will clear fairly quickly.

Google for steroid clearance times and you will find some general times.

How are you certain you have made no gains?

Have you been tracking weight, body fat, bodymeasurements and your weights?

I know you are not up to your previous best lifts, but did you have any increase in weights at all?

Yes, clearance time on Anavar should be about 3 weeks.

I have had a slight increase in weights, edit: bw a little up, 0.5 - 1 kg (about 1-2lb?), think the creatine did some of this..., slight diffenece in bm. Not the gains I should have had though (according to my coach, who had a lot more gains from anavar alone than I did, and he is male). I didn't have big expectations either, because I didn't want to be disapponted.. (still feel steroids are too good to be true, haha).. but my experience is very much less then what I had expected.

And yes it was an oral, from generic.

(Sorry if my english aren't too good, Im not english-speaking)

Thanks for helping, appreciate it!

 

[sandrar]

I have known at least 5 women who have ran Anavar - oxandrolone - several times. 5 mg never did shit for them. Most of them like to run 15-20mg. I know everyone is going to say "that's to much" but I have seen with my own eyes the difference in the results.

It is my first cycle, so I thought 10mg would do it it for me (I was even told 5 would be enough!). I thought of going up to 15 (I have no sides either on 10mg), but was told that since I got almost nothing from 10 on my first cycle, it was doubtful that 15 would give me much more, I was only adviced to run something else next time.. But I dont know. My coach did check with others, and of course they are all so sceptical about "giving" roids to females, so it feels like I cant get a decent answer. Do you know how they ran their first cycle?

Thanks a lot!

 

[LadyRaptor]

GIRL... do not count out Anavar yet. I would say my most noticible MUSCLE CHANGES were at the END of my cycle... and I mean BIG changes. And I'm a big girl already at 5'11, 160lbs. I think you need to train as heavy as possible... Anavar is NOT a weak steroid...if it was...then why are we dosing with SO LITTLE (10mg ed???)

I would say you are only JUST getting to the point of change... keep with it and don't be down yet.... I felt the EXACT SAME WAY.... it's gonna HIT you girl... I swear it. Anavar ROCKS.

S

 

[sandrar]

GIRL... do not count out Anavar yet. I would say my most noticible MUSCLE CHANGES were at the END of my cycle... and I mean BIG changes. And I'm a big girl already at 5'11, 160lbs. I think you need to train as heavy as possible... Anavar is NOT a weak steroid...if it was...then why are we dosing with SO LITTLE (10mg ed???)

I would say you are only JUST getting to the point of change... keep with it and don't be down yet.... I felt the EXACT SAME WAY.... it's gonna HIT you girl... I swear it. Anavar ROCKS.

S

Thank you!!! I've been training HARD and HEAVY, hoping to feel a change everytime I hit the gym. This made me feel a lot better, I will let you know in a couple of weeks how it's been. You really saved my day! I've been told even to quit the cycle, because if I hadn't seen changes by now, it was just a waste.. Thank you so much for telling me this!!

 

[bw1]

GIRL... do not count out Anavar yet. I would say my most noticible MUSCLE CHANGES were at the END of my cycle... and I mean BIG changes. And I'm a big girl already at 5'11, 160lbs. I think you need to train as heavy as possible... Anavar is NOT a weak steroid...if it was...then why are we dosing with SO LITTLE (10mg ed???)

I would say you are only JUST getting to the point of change... keep with it and don't be down yet.... I felt the EXACT SAME WAY.... it's gonna HIT you girl... I swear it. Anavar ROCKS.

S

Anavar is relativly mild, that's why women do run it.

 

[slat1]

Anavar is more subtle then other steroids.
That is why it is prefered by most women.
It really is all diet though.
I know an IFBB pro female body builder and know what she uses.
It amounts to 10mgs or less of anavar leading up to the show with some clen.
I also know some IFBB pro figure girls who use more then that. After a while you could see some side effects. First it was light blonde facial hair popping up. Then it was the same on the body.
After a while it can turn black.
Most of the diet/supplement guru's that work with them have them use the least amount necessary to achieve the desired results.

 

[superqt4u2nv]

What are you eating? Are you resting enough? How long have you been doing your current lifting split and what is it? First cycle of var I had amazing strength gains however I bought overdosed var and I was actually taking 20mg ed rather then 10 mg. I got some sides on the cycle acid reflux mostly and oily skin. Now I tend to run 10 mg of var for contest prep with clen and t3 still have strength gains and make PR's. What I am saying is that if the var is real then it is time to look at some other part of your diet an training.

 

[sandrar]

Hi again! Thanks for your inputs, I understand why you think there must be something wrong with my diet and training, I would too if it was someone else..

My diet is not perfect, but I eat enough for sure, and I eat good food. My training is good, I have a coach who has been "in the game" for MANY years, he has controll on my training, so if somthing isn't working, we fix it together.

Everything seemed to be running great before the var, but when I was on, the var didn't do any difference... But: LADYRAPTOR, the gains are HERE, after 4(!!) weeks it started, i couldn't believe it And BW1, I took you advice I went up to 15, no sides, except a little extra facial hair, nothing I cant live with.. Im only staying on for 6 weeks so we'll se how much gains I can get in 2 weeks.. (I have one week left) I am very positive. I suddely gained alot in my 5th week, also a little weight Hope to have the same gains this week.

I'll let you know how it was when I'm finished, hopefully it can help other weirdos like me..

Thanks guys!

 

[superqt4u2nv]

Why so short of a cycle typically women run for long 12 weeks or more.

 

[sandrar]

Why so short of a cycle typically women run for long 12 weeks or more.

Because there is always a chance of me getting tested.. also outside competition. It took a lot of thought to do it in the first place, so we decided to only do 6 weeks, I think it will be best to stick to the plan, altough I really want to stay on longer, but I just can't take the risk this time. For the future I'll be doing a longer run, is 12 weeks really common? I thought 8 weeks was a long run, haha.

Thanx SUPERCUTE! I do envy you

 

[Adept]

I am a competitive lifter but just started on Anavar - oxandrolone - for making a switch to bodybuilding. I have only been taking 5 mg for 3 days and mydeadlifts were ridiculously easy yesterday. 255 x 3 felt like 205. Muscle hardness in my legs already too.

However, my T levels are naturally high. I have always pluked black hairs off my chin (my Mom and daughter too. both very strong naturally). I have always been on the agressive side. So, i would think the dose is dependant on your natural male hormone levels.

If you are more 'girlish' 20 is probably a more effective dose. For the tom boys like me, 5-10 is likely doing the trick.

I am a ultra newbie, so just my 2 cents.

I have my own quesions about before or after meals, upon waking, what supplelemnts compliment or interfere with absorption ect... but I will post elsewhere.

 

[sandrar]

I am a competitive lifter but just started on Anavar - oxandrolone - for making a switch to bodybuilding. I have only been taking 5 mg for 3 days and mydeadlifts were ridiculously easy yesterday. 255 x 3 felt like 205. Muscle hardness in my legs already too.

However, my T levels are naturally high. I have always pluked black hairs off my chin (my Mom and daughter too. both very strong naturally). I have always been on the agressive side. So, i would think the dose is dependant on your natural male hormone levels.

If you are more 'girlish' 20 is probably a more effective dose. For the tom boys like me, 5-10 is likely doing the trick.

I am a ultra newbie, so just my 2 cents.

I have my own quesions about before or after meals, upon waking, what supplelemnts compliment or interfere with absorption ect... but I will post elsewhere.

Maybe you have a point.. I am pretty girlish.. I have to work hard for my gains, eating, sleeping, resting and training has to be very good for me to gain power. I have a training partner, she is not doing half as much as me for the same gains, she is not that girlish .. But I dont know if it has anything to do with that. But I've had pretty good lifts for my age and weight, so I don't think my hormone levels will keep me back, I just have to work harder for it, and use more anavar, haha ..

 

[superqt4u2nv]

Adept has a great point your natural level would effect how AAS effects you. I see now why the short cycle if time premits I highly suggest running a 16 week I have gone on 10mg for as much as 20 week contest prep my strength gains were maintained after every cycle and have only gotten better. I deadlift 315 for reps and when I started deadlifting 4 years ago I was was reping around 135.

 

[sandrar]

Adept has a great point your natural level would effect how anabolic androgenic steroids effects you. I see now why the short cycle if time premits I highly suggest running a 16 week I have gone on 10mg for as much as 20 week contest prep my strength gains were maintained after every cycle and have only gotten better. I deadlift 315 for reps and when I started deadlifting 4 years ago I was was reping around 135.

Next time I will for sure run a longer cycle, but I don't know when it will be yet. How many cycles do you run a year? The last weeks my deadlift was bad, even 260 felt heavy.. My best lift at 315 from last time I was in top shape was one rep, the other day I could do three! Would you recommend a stack next time, or should I stick to the var for a while yet before I start stacking..?

Thanks!

 

[superqt4u2nv]

Next time I will for sure run a longer cycle, but I don't know when it will be yet. How many cycles do you run a year? The last weeks my deadlift was bad, even 260 felt heavy.. My best lift at 315 from last time I was in top shape was one rep, the other day I could do three! Would you recommend a stack next time, or should I stick to the Anavar - oxandrolone - for a while yet before I start stacking..?

Thanks!

I don't recommend stacking for sometime stick with var I believe I did 4 cycles before I tried other things. Try something on it's own first always and then stack items you have tried separately together. I have done winny with great strength gains but it was a bit hard on my joints very drying. I do really like NPP and it was also great strength gains but have to be ready to inject yourself.

 

[sandrar]

I don't recommend stacking for sometime stick with var I believe I did 4 cycles before I tried other things. Try something on it's own first always and then stack items you have tried separately together. I have done winny with great strength gains but it was a bit hard on my joints very drying. I do really like NPP and it was also great strength gains but have to be ready to inject yourself.

Sorry for my late update, but thought Id share my short experience from var with you!

First, THANK YOU all for helping!

I didnt see any gains until I went up to 15 mg, I did that for about two weeks, than I had to come off.. Clean for competition. (I did 1 week 5mgs, 3 weeks 10 mgs, and two weeks 15 mgs, half dose in the morning, half before gym in evening). This was my first time on roids, about 4 years of training.

I saw nothing really the first weeks, but at 15 it was good for me. I guess this must be VERY different from person to person, as many claim to get good gains on 5 mgs.. as that did nothing noticeable for me. And before you ask again, I am 100% sure this was real var. Just take my word for it

I went up 15 lbs on my bench press (new max 210lbs), up about 22 Ibs on my squat and from one rep on (edit: had to convert from kg's) 315 deadlift, to three reps on same weight. Im happy withe the gains I got from an only two weeks steroid boost.

Now Ive been dieting over two months, started almost right after my cycle. Surprisingly I kept my gains VERY well, and I can even do new max lift on my diet, and then I mean even more than I could lift when I was heavier and on roids. Anavar was great, but I recommend doing a longer cycle, next time Im doing AT LEAST 8 weeks.

And last but not least, sides.. Nothing a dedicated person who wants to get somewhere would care about, the gains are all worth it in my opinion.
Minor clit swelling, woulnt notice if I wasnt aware of it.. (well maybe, hah), a little extra facial hair, cute little ones, and also when I finished my cycle, I noticed some extra tiny hairs on my body, chest mainly.. No acne or anything else to worry about. For later cycles I will upper my dose, and be on for a longer period. As my training partnes would say it, "a little rougher face wouldnt hurt you, it just looks tough", and "a rough voice is just sexy".. Haha.. but dont I take what they say to seriously!

Take care, start low
XXX

 

[Tatyana]

Thanks for keeping us posted.

I have to post all of my lifts in kg and lbs too, it does get a bit confusing.

How did you do at your comp?

 

[sandrar]

Thanks for keeping us posted.

I have to post all of my lifts in kg and lbs too, it does get a bit confusing.

How did you do at your comp?

No problem, hope this can help someone else, as this is what I was wondering when I was "on"..

Yes!, it is very confusing..well as long as I dont have to worry about ounces and cups also! I only cook in metric, haha..

I won the competition, thanks for asking!

 

[dodipsdochins]

I ran var at 25mg ed for 10 weeks. It was my first cycle after a long time lifting with my husband and perfecting my diet and training. I would have to agree with the guy who said that 5-10 did nothing for any of his female friends, because the 25mg's that I took were very mild. I had no sides (other than a couple regular recurring zits) and my total strength gain was pretty 'average'- 25 pounds to my bench over the 10 weeks. mass gains were 'average' maybe 3-5 pounds of lean mass in 10 weeks.

I would say that if you're a woman who is natural but wants to gain that 'extra edge' in your training, 5-10mg's of var is pretty damn mild. (obviously there will be exceptions to this so please don't flame me) but if I knew then what I know now- I would have been a HELL of a lot less scared about swallowing that first pill. LOL

my take on it- 5mg of var is baby food compared to the drugs I see girls drop down their throats in bars every saturday night.

Tawney

 

[sandrar]

I ran var at 25mg ed for 10 weeks. It was my first cycle after a long time lifting with my husband and perfecting my diet and training. I would have to agree with the guy who said that 5-10 did nothing for any of his female friends, because the 25mg's that I took were very mild. I had no sides (other than a couple regular recurring zits) and my total strength gain was pretty 'average'- 25 pounds to my bench over the 10 weeks. mass gains were 'average' maybe 3-5 pounds of lean mass in 10 weeks.

I would say that if you're a woman who is natural but wants to gain that 'extra edge' in your training, 5-10mg's of var is pretty damn mild. (obviously there will be exceptions to this so please don't flame me) but if I knew then what I know now- I would have been a HELL of a lot less scared about swallowing that first pill. LOL

my take on it- 5mg of var is baby food compared to the drugs I see girls drop down their throats in bars every saturday night.

Tawney

Haha, finally, I love this! Thanks Me too!, thinking 5 is extremely mild, and I can't understand how somebody can "feel" that.. But I suppose there is also a "placebo" effect of using drugs, some people claim to "get a great pump!!" on their first day.. Maybe stupid, but the var made me more expermential with dosages, because I feel that I anyway have to figure out the dosages myself, and I love that!

But.. If a female asked me what dosages to do, I would say start with 5mg's but let her know it didn't do shit for me until I was at 15 (of course depends what you are using it for..) I also belive that when you take the step of using drugs, you shouldn't just be aware of the sides, you better be able to accept them, or else you shouldn't touch it, you've got to have the feeling that the sides are ALL worth it!

Great post dodipsdochins!

 

[fitness-rubber]

No problem, hope this can help someone else, as this is what I was wondering when I was "on"..

Yes!, it is very confusing..well as long as I dont have to worry about ounces and cups also! I only cook in metric, haha..

I won the competition, thanks for asking!

Congrats on the win!

 

[sandrar]

Congrats on the win!

Thank you so much!!!

 

[slat1]

I think the big problem is most people think the first time they use AAS that some sort of magic will happen. The reality is your diet, training and sleep drive all your results. If those three are on point the AAS will just be the last piece of the puzzle.
Everyone responds differently too.

 

[sandrar]

I think the big problem is most people think the first time they use AAS that some sort of magic will happen. The reality is your diet, training and sleep drive all your results. If those three are on point the AAS will just be the last piece of the puzzle.
Everyone responds differently too.

I had low expectations, to be honest, it was everyone else made me think it would be so great.. My diet was perfect, my sleep aswell, and had been for a long time, I am a seroius athlete on national team, and I had been training hard without drugs with very good gains. So I wouldn't blame it on that.

But.. I agree dosage must be individual, and I dont think men should be telling women how and what to use, because it is very different from how men react. From my experience (in real life, not from a forum) there are two types of advicers (male), the ones telling you very very small doses will be awesome, and those basically giving you their own cycle telling you it will kick ass... Not all women can get what they are looking for from 5 mgs of var, don't relly understand how any women can.. I prefer women telling me their own experience with cycles, then it's up to me using the info I have making an OK cycle for me. Thats what women should do.