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halfcenturian

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Two substances I don't understand why people use are EQ & Winny.
WHY? WHY? WHY?
I'm asking for information - NOT slamming the drugs OR the people that use them . But these two fellas are, IMHO, aweful.

EQ does a nice job , but the anxiety it produced with me was a kin to coming off an all night Blow binge. I was popping Valium like Skittles just to smooth out. NOW THAT'S JUST ME, but it was a very bad experience . On the upside Deca is a much better drug, if you don't mind sweating a bit.

The other is Winny. WHY ??? It made my joints feel like I was 50 years old. ... OH Ya.... I am. OK 80 years old. again WHY ????
Anavar is a far superior drug if you don't mind some temporary lipid imbalances OK BLAST AWAY. I would not use either or these if I was given a lifetime supply.
 
eq def suxs...i dont get sides from anything....but eq i cant breathe get heart palpulations anxiety crazy sides...i would never use it again
 
id def agree with you on the winny as it was not a good thing for me. equi on the other hand i love, gives me lots of energy, very vascular, solid lean gains.
 
I'm with you on the EQ. Some people are willing to put up with all sorts of weird sides to save a couple of bucks.

As for winny, I like it. Never had any joint problems. Clean solid gains.
 
Ive thrown EQ in a couple cycles. I belive the best aspect of that compound is the appetite stimulation. Other than that vascularity didnt much improve, Im veiny anyhow wasnt lookin for more. I would use it again in a bulker, its just that it needs to be ran so long. As for winny, nice strength increases, and fast! But some damn painful injections.
 
Man, I think I'm prone to joint problems then because Anavar annihilated my shoulders. Couldn't sleep it got so painful. Shit lasted a month after I ceased dosing. Workouts were a joke and caused my cycle to fail. Loved Var, but I can't run it solo, may have had something to do with rheumatoid caused by sickness when I was young. who knows. still wanna try boldenone though
 
i never tried eq. i haven't had any joint problems from winny.
 
I use Boldenone, Enan, and Dbol and my gains are massive. I don't have any complaints when it comes to discomfort or low libido so far. This is my 7th week and I am growing steadily. As far a winny I don't have any complaints other than I get tons of zits all over my chest.
 
digit0x said:
Man, I think I'm prone to joint problems then because Anavar annihilated my shoulders. Couldn't sleep it got so painful. Shit lasted a month after I ceased dosing. Workouts were a joke and caused my cycle to fail. Loved Var, but I can't run it solo, may have had something to do with rheumatoid caused by sickness when I was young. who knows. still wanna try boldenone though
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How do you know it was the var? This is fairly common, when using steroids. Muscles grow fast, poundages in the gym go up. This puts extra stress on tendons and joints, takes tendons longer to adapt to new weights being lifted than muscles. Ive had some on going pain in my right shoulder and elbow since a few cycles ago. I swing a hammer for a living too, I doubt that helps any.

Glucosamine and Condroitant with MSM+Fish oil=relief
 
halfcenturian said:
Two substances I don't understand why people use are EQ & Winny.
WHY? WHY? WHY?
I'm asking for information - NOT slamming the drugs OR the people that use them . But these two fellas are, IMHO, aweful.

EQ does a nice job , but the anxiety it produced with me was a kin to coming off an all night Blow binge. I was popping Valium like Skittles just to smooth out. NOW THAT'S JUST ME, but it was a very bad experience . On the upside Deca is a much better drug, if you don't mind sweating a bit.

The other is Winny. WHY ??? It made my joints feel like I was 50 years old. ... OH Ya.... I am. OK 80 years old. again WHY ????
Anavar is a far superior drug if you don't mind some temporary lipid imbalances OK BLAST AWAY. I would not use either or these if I was given a lifetime supply.
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winny i will never understand, especially with TBOL coming back out a few years ago. But EQ is great imo, strengthens connective tissue and the best result for me from it is it makes it EASY for me to eat 6K+ cals a day. I can eat one huge meal after another on that shit
 
DaveTSI said:
winny i will never understand, especially with TBOL coming back out a few years ago. But EQ is great imo, strengthens connective tissue and the best result for me from it is it makes it EASY for me to eat 6K+ cals a day. I can eat one huge meal after another on that shit
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EQ gave me the Heebie Jeebies so bad I had my gun close by all the time. I was anxious to the point where it was almost funny.

Like everybody there are certain AAS that our bodies don't accommodate, while others love it. For me it's EQ and Winny.

night night:nighty:
 
HAHA. I cant get over people on these boards rambling on about the "anxiety" from EQ, seriously iv used it alot and have never had one side effect, aside from maybe a little acne (but that could be from the other stuff used in the cycle). Lean, solid, easy to keep gains...and so has everyone else i know who uses it too. If you are prone to anxiety or a similar disposition, then why are you messing around with powerful homrones in the first place??!!!

Only ever used winny tabs and was not too fussed on them, but i wasnt expecting miracles from them.
 
i love eq no sides at all no anxiety at all, hardness viens, and leanmass, as for winny no sides too but bad joints i must admit,
 
I've used Eq and had no sides and reasonable gains, ended up working more like a cutter than a drug for lean gains. Plus side for me was not having to stick yourself often and as I said, no sieds.

I agree that var is much better than winny but var is much more expensive. Personally I've used both and MUCH prefer var. Definitly tought me to stay clean for another month and save the extra cash for var!

Just my opinion.
 
halfcenturian said:
EQ gave me the Heebie Jeebies so bad I had my gun close by all the time. I was anxious to the point where it was almost funny.

Like everybody there are certain AAS that our bodies don't accommodate, while others love it. For me it's EQ and Winny.

night night:nighty:
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What dosage were you using half? Maybe if it was a higher dosage lowering it would lower or limit the side effects? I've heard people say they get anxiety from it and some say they don't. Seems to be hit or miss, a lot of people that get the anxiety can't handle it which is understandable.
 
halfcenturian said:
Two substances I don't understand why people use are EQ & Winny.
WHY? WHY? WHY?
I'm asking for information - NOT slamming the drugs OR the people that use them . But these two fellas are, IMHO, aweful.

EQ does a nice job , but the anxiety it produced with me was a kin to coming off an all night Blow binge. I was popping Valium like Skittles just to smooth out. NOW THAT'S JUST ME, but it was a very bad experience . On the upside Deca is a much better drug, if you don't mind sweating a bit.

The other is Winny. WHY ??? It made my joints feel like I was 50 years old. ... OH Ya.... I am. OK 80 years old. again WHY ????
Anavar is a far superior drug if you don't mind some temporary lipid imbalances OK BLAST AWAY. I would not use either or these if I was given a lifetime supply.
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Eq has been known to give some anxiety problems to a few people



Eq has a profound affect on GABA receptors in the brain. In short it blocks, inhibits,or shuts them off. You have a few choses to combat this.

1. neuroactive steroids like dhea,preg, and other ingredients found in dermacrine influence serotonin and norepinephrine which can help GABA transmission uptake or what ever. I know swole has experienced this work first hand and so have others.

2. Benzodiazepines. This option I am against So I will give no advice on.

3. Just do not take it.

Eq has some good uses in cycles. It has been known to increase hunger,has great effects on cardoi output, gives great vascular effects and has a low estro conversion rate (about half that of test).

Just another one of the type of compounds some can take and others can not. Keep something like dermacrine on hand when trying it for the first time.


Now on to winny. Again some people have no problems with it at all. I feel winny is Best stacked with a nandro on not used at all. Joint problems are almost never a problem when used with deca. It works synergistic in this kind of stack. Keeping progestron in check and lowering shbg at the same time. Using it by its self or stacked with test may work great for some but its best uses is when stacked with nandros. using proviron would be a better option though. Less harsh on the liver and cholesterol.
 
DaveTSI said:
winny i will never understand, especially with TBOL coming back out a few years ago. But EQ is great imo, strengthens connective tissue and the best result for me from it is it makes it EASY for me to eat 6K+ cals a day. I can eat one huge meal after another on that shit
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hey bro, what do you mean tbol coming bak out a few years ago? it got more popular?
 
BlackIron220 said:
hey bro, what do you mean tbol coming bak out a few years ago? it got more popular?
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before BD started manufacturing it again a few years back it was impossible to find.
 
I'm gonna try low dose EQ and see what happens, I love the effects and coming off isn't bad. I sweat as well with deca, no big deal, but coming off can suck.
 
I feel like ripping someones head off with my bare hands when I use EQ. Plus I cant sleep for shit on it. I just lay there in a rage. I can feel the effects of EQ within hours of sticking myself. Man roid rage aint a myth if you are running EQ! I love me some Winny but its definitely hard on the joints. If you run winny by itself your joints sound like creaky old door hinges, reeeeeak!
 
lookinfit75 said:
DaveTSI,
Why do you prefer Turanabol to Winny?
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tbol basically gives identical results, if not better, without the problems winny gives the joints and it doesnt touch your hair either.
 
I love them both! Two of my favs. EQ (just coming off EQ cycle) did give me anxiety, but it only lasted about 1-2 weeks, then I leveled off and felt great. It was right in the beginning, wanna say around weeks 3-5. Great steady gains, just felt it was a good addition to my cycle.

Winny...never had sides to speak of. None. Zero. Zip. Well...except that it is THE most painful injection of all time, but so worth it. It gives me the "vacuum sealed" look like nothing else I have tried so far. I would like to run var next go around, moderate dose for longer time. I've heard this is the way to run it. Layinback can vouch for it, I can't as much since I've never done it.
 
Equipose works wonders with me! (better than decca)
 
ryno9000 said:
I love them both! Two of my favs. EQ (just coming off EQ cycle) did give me anxiety, but it only lasted about 1-2 weeks, then I leveled off and felt great. It was right in the beginning, wanna say around weeks 3-5. Great steady gains, just felt it was a good addition to my cycle.

Winny...never had sides to speak of. None. Zero. Zip. Well...except that it is THE most painful injection of all time, but so worth it. It gives me the "vacuum sealed" look like nothing else I have tried so far. I would like to run var next go around, moderate dose for longer time. I've heard this is the way to run it. Layinback can vouch for it, I can't as much since I've never done it.
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what do you mean "vacuum sealed" look bro??
 
halfcenturian said:
The other is Winny. WHY ??? It made my joints feel like I was 50 years old. ... OH Ya.... I am. OK 80 years old. again WHY ????
Anavar is a far superior drug if you don't mind some temporary lipid imbalances OK BLAST AWAY. I would not use either or these if I was given a lifetime supply.
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...and Winstrol is far worse on HDL than Var.
 
I liked the EQ. Solid lean gains, no sides for me, and good vascularity and helps the appetite.

Winstrol has never interested me in the slightest. Why even take a chance on ruining your workouts with achy painful joints. It's fat burning properties can be had with primo, or Anavar. It's painful to inject I hear and taste like shit to drink. Passadena on the winstrol.
 
ryno9000 said:
Meaning when I run winny, it looks like someone tapped under my skin and sucked out all the water, air and everything else and I am just thin skin on top of veins on top of muscle. Love the shit.
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oh ok. ive heard someone mention that masteron makes them feel like theyre wrapped in saran wrap
 
HDL impact from winny and var is close enough - one cannot say that one is "far worse" than the other.

EQ is alright, good drug to mix it up when you've exhausted other compounds. Even at 1200mg/week I didnt really get anxiety - or not any worse than what the stimulants were doing to me.

Winny is an excellent drug. I always make big weight gains on it for some mysterious reason. Joint pain is a downer, but it never lasts too long.
 
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