Newbie needs some advice

[usma89]

Test subject is 47, 216 lbs and 26%bf.

I've just recently began conducting research with a focus on weight loss.

For past 2 weeks test subject was pinning:

250mcg Semorelin bedtime
100mcg 3xday Ipam (Morning,PWO,Bed)

Test subject was down 6 pounds and was happy.

Decided to add cjc 1295 wo DAC to mix.

New stack was:

250mcg Semorelin bedtime
100mcg 3xday Ipam (Morning,PWO,Bed)
100mcg 2xday cjc 1295 wo DAC (monring,pwo)

In the 3 days since adding the cjc 1295 test subject has gained 4 lbs. This doesn't make sense to me, can anyone elaborate as to why this might happen?

I am thinking about adding frag 176 into the mix. Thoughts? what would be the recommended dosage and times? Would it interfere with the current stack?

Thanks for helping a newbie out!

 

[getyourweightup]

If the focus is just weight loss on a subject you need to focus on products like GW-501516 from one the sponsors like buyusapeptides or sarms1- the stuff your getting now is primarily for muscle mass although FRAG, IPAM and other GH will help with weight loss but its not its main focus. research GW, clen and other liquids for weight loss

 

[Elijah V]

You do realise Sermorelin is CJC-1295 w/o DAC, right? Different names, exact same product.

Regarding weight loss and chemicals, before recommending you anything, is there anything in particular you don't feel comfortable in using? Have you considered thermogenics? Assuming you're diet/cardio is in check.

 

[dylangemelli]

bro, why are you not running sarms as opposed to this? you would benefit so much more in every aspect... you should really switch this up...

 

[Shrine1]

I agree.. you should look into sarms1 and pick up a triple stack. You will get so much more out of the cycle

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[Elijah V]

Are the use of SARMs in his best interest or are you just doing your job throwing around advertisements and promoting like a good sponsor should?

There is always an agenda

As far as information and knowledge goes, this board is becoming nothing but one big advertisement-fest, SARM this and SARM that N2BM this and N2BM that.

It's hard being a Moderator and a Sponsor, one might say you're either one or the other.

Quite disappointing I'm afraid.

 

[ha1a1]

Are the use of SARMs in his best interest or are you just doing your job throwing around advertisements and promoting like a good sponsor should?

There is always an agenda

As far as information and knowledge goes, this board is becoming nothing but one big advertisement-fest, SARM this and SARM that N2BM this and N2BM that.

It's hard being a Moderator and a Sponsor, one might say you're either one or the other.

Quite disappointing I'm afraid.

I am neither sponsor or mod (obviously) , but I can tell you the products recommended from sarms1 & n2bm are legit. I have researched with gw, lg, s4 and ostarine from Sarms1.com and can tell you without a doubt that everything you here about the positive effects is true. I am about to start Oxandrovar from n2bm stacked with GW & S4. These are not the only sites I buy from, but they are legit bro. Give it a go yourself, then you will know too. The fat loss I got with gw in 3 weeks usually takes me 2 months. The strength plateaus I blasted through with LG had been haunting me & I literally dont want to train strength with out it now. Check out the logs bro, they are not all done by mods or sponsored members.

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[fizzisnumerouno]

Are the use of SARMs in his best interest or are you just doing your job throwing around advertisements and promoting like a good sponsor should?

There is always an agenda

As far as information and knowledge goes, this board is becoming nothing but one big advertisement-fest, SARM this and SARM that N2BM this and N2BM that.

It's hard being a Moderator and a Sponsor, one might say you're either one or the other.

Quite disappointing I'm afraid.

I am a mod on evolutionary.org and I have a competition where the winner gets products from www.sarms1.com and www.needtobuildmuscle.com. I am specifically giving away oxandrovar because I liked it so much as a kicker and was surprised at how well it worked. I knew the n2bm products were good at what they did but ox worked better than stuff that is much harder to get. It sucks as a mod sometimes bc people think you are trying to push stuff on them. I know my team only pushes what we know works and we've seen a lot of snake oil and abscess oil get pushed on bros. Myself and shrine ran gk oxandrovar and loved it. We both have logs here and evolutionary.org.

 

[jester72]

No you've misunderstood, the problem is with the advice being given, not the product to use. I have used a dozen peptides and have received the desired results, some, not so great. The problem with this board, specifically the sponsors, are those who advertise a product for the sake of advertising and not so much as to why they're recommending it. Infact, I've caught two moderators out who recommend not ever using a specific peptide and/or SARM yet they're head-bashing random posts and recommending the use of SARMS.

Sponsors = Do as I say, not as I do. Fantastic advice.

That's not always true either. I'm not one to argue, but I'm neither a sponsor, nor a rep for anyone. Since I began cycling in 2011, I have never once used a SERM. No Clomid, no Nolva, none of it. EVERY PCT I've run has been HCGenerate, Unleashed, and Post Cycle.
I am monitored by a doctor throughout, and have both pre and post cycle blood tests for every cycle I've run. Maybe the reason you see certain products pushed so much, is because they actually WORK, and buck the conventional "broscience" norm.

 

[usma89]

You do realise Sermorelin is CJC-1295 w/o DAC, right? Different names, exact same product.

Regarding weight loss and chemicals, before recommending you anything, is there anything in particular you don't feel comfortable in using? Have you considered thermogenics? Assuming you're diet/cardio is in check.

I knew they were very similar but thought there was some difference. Thanks for pointing that out. Which was is more effective?

There is not anyhting I'm uncomfortable using. I have tried trenogenics in the past without much success. What are your thoughts on the GW?