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jd066

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Hey guys,

Just like to say I'm new to the boards. Signed up because after doing some reading and came to the conclusion that there are some very knowledgable people here. Well I just turned 20 and I weigh 130 pounds at 5' 10". Thats basically it. Im not vain or anything I would just really like to weigh more. I weighed 138 as a Freshman in High School dunno what happened and Im a sophmore in college now. I guess I just got taller and not wider ha. I worked out for like 6 or 7 months once to try and gain weight but my nutrition was poor as well as my workout and I didnt gain very much at all. I didnt know what I was doing basically, all I had was some written out plan a big guy I knew in HS wrote me since I didnt have a computer.

Work and college have kept me so busy these past couple years, but I have decided to give it another shot now that im not living at home and I can eat whatever I want! I have been doing research and have decided to try 250 mg of Deca a week. My friend who was same weight inspired me he went from 130-165 and not even lifting hard/eating fast food. But he stacked who knows what mg deca and something else he told me but I forget. Its a low dosage, but I figure with the Deca + Eating alot/Good diet my underweight butt will atleast see 10 pounds, hopefully.

Now, my questions for you guys is, what drugs/if any should I take with the Deca to help prevent the gyno effects. Is it even enough of a dosage? I have read it doesnt aromatize easily in low dosages. What side effects should I expect at this dosage. How many times a week should I take it and on what days. Should I do anything the week prior to prep my body? Also if anyone knows of a good workout plan that doesnt include cable gym equipment ( only got home setup now). Its got 1 cable but can only really do push downs and tricep exercises on it. You know the one u put in the hole at the bottom of your bench and it stands up. Finally... what would be your guy's predictions on my weight gain if I train hard.

Thanks alot for reading! I would greatly appreciate you guys' input, as this is something I really want, but dont wanna plow into you know.

John
 
1st off you need to work out for a year or so before even thinkin about juice. you need time to develop a muscular base to build off of!! 2nd this will also give youtime to dial ina good diet because honestly if you only weigh 130# unless you are5ft 4 in and female you are way to light for steroids. you obviusly have no muscle on you right now. you must honestl have a rfast metabolism so if i wrre you I would start your weight training 4-5 times a week and start eatimg double what you are right now with about 225-250g of protein daily i believe you should be able to gain 10-15# just by doing that. and also you do not want to run a deca only cycle. deca is mostly used as a hardener and cutter but first you need some muscle to harden up should always use testoserone as a base If you are going to juice I would say take some test enanthate maybe like 350-500mg per week for your first cycle not deca bad choice!! also make sure you have some aifm or some type of inhibitor incase you find out you are prone to gyno! also you will need it for your pct.
 
This is one of the worst posts I've ever seen on here. If you'd done half of the reading around you suggest you've done then you wouldn't have posted this. I don't even know where to start except to tell you to forget the whole idea.

If you want to get big then you need to eat more and if you want to get big and meaty then you need eat more and train hard. At 5'10", unless you have a clinical malady dooming you to burn calories at a prodigious rate, you shouldn't be considering aas in any form before you've discovered how to get yourself upto around 200 pounds, at a minimum.

Taking anabolic steroids without exercising will give you that appealing bovine look; the one that farmers like for the fatty, marbled meat that sells so well. When you stop, you'll revert to as you are, probably even smaller. Forget about juice for a couple of years, preferably four or five, and take yourself over to the diet and training forums.

You don't mention what home equipment you have for working out. If it's a bar and weights then that's great. There are lots of workouts you can do that will build muscle. If it's anything else then I suggest you go join a gym since you'd be mostly wasting your time without the ability to man-handle some heavy weight.

Sorry if this sounds in any way harsh but your plan is simply not sensible.
 
Also remember that there's nothing on the planet that is as anabolic as food. Start by eating more today. Drink a gallon of milk every day and eat like food was cheap, which it is.
 
Great post blut wump as always. Bro it's crucial you get some muscle on that frame of yours before jumping into AAS. I'm sure it's not what you want to here but you're young enough to train and eat right for at least a year before considering what you have proposed(which is not a very good cycle btw). Do your best to reach your genetic limit first. As said above, hang out in the diet section and get to eating the right foods throughout the day. As well, go train your ass off. You will be thankfull in the long run. At 20 yrs. of age, you've got plenty of time to reach your goals.
 
That is light and if I was that size I would say fuck all these guys telling me not to take shit and i'd do it, So I figure your going to do gear anyway but your main concern is to eat right and train right while on or it will all be for nothing
 
scout69 said:
That is light and if I was that size I would say fuck all these guys telling me not to take shit and i'd do it, So I figure your going to do gear anyway but your main concern is to eat right and train right while on or it will all be for nothing
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Damn, I thought the original post was pretty bad but I believe you've got him beat w/ that awful reply of yours. Did you read it at all? The kid has no clue as to what he's about attempt. Very reckless advice you're spewing to him.
 
"My wife is 5'10 125, seriously funny."

That's one of the main reason's I want to do it. I do hit up my bench and curl bar every week or two weeks. Its not much but it keeps strength up. I can bench my body weight atleast ten times. I had planned on working out for a couple weeks to get back into it, but the thing is I do eat a decent amount. I do know a little about working out, I actually who have alot of friends who are into it who always preach to me. I dont stuff myself yeah I prolly could to gain but I do not really have an appetite like that. I start to get sick if i eat too much without something making me hungry and a friend of mine says Deca will inhibit the hunger. Why would the cycle seem bad? Some seem to like it some seem to hate it. How long should I take the Deca for?

Also I have a nice olympic bench with a 45 lb weighted bar and enough plated weights to go to 305 not like ill need it. Curl bar and the bench has a squat rack on the back.
 
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Hey, I can sympathize with being smaller than you'd like to be but gear isn't going to do it for you until you learn to eat and train. Go read my earlier post until this sinks in.
 
o bro fuck these guys....go ahead and run deca at a gram a week and fuck pct...well if youu really wanna do pct runn dbol at 40mg ed for 3 weeks...lol seriously bro you got a lot to learn
 
I started out like you but I weighed 140lbs when I started lifting.You need a solid workout routine,not benching and curling every week or two.Eating is a must.If you really want to get bigger you must train heavy and eat every meal like it's your last meal. Most people crash hard from a deca only cycle so stay away from gear until you learn alot more.[do a search on deca dick so you'll know what to expect if you decide not to listen]
 
Thanks for all the input guys. Your responses have helped alot. I have been reading about the "deca dick" as you suggested. It seems like the people who are getting effect by it I dunno if its a coinc. or what but their reports are like 400mg and 600+. But I guess the 250 for me is alot cause i dont weigh much?
 
everytime i see the words 'newbie', and 'deca advice' i just automatically assume its a joke post. they all start out the same: "ive been reading for a while on AA's now, but still not sure if i should run deca at 100 mgs a week or not?" take your time, and train for a year WITHOUT any drugs, and get a decent base to build upon. buy some NO_XPLODE and some muscle milk, and see how ya do with that for 6 months. read the training and diet forums to get an idea of what you need to do next. all the info you'll ever need is at your disposal. this site will answer all your questions. jus hold off on the gear for a lil while. my .O2
 
More research, and in the meantime train hard and learn how to eat right. Dont screw yourself with a cycle thats not what you need yet.
 
I have trained "hard" for like 6 months before 3 days a week, with only like 9-10 lbs gain.Maybe not hard for yal but Ive always had a tight scheduele with AP classes in HS and now college full time/two jobs and its literally hard to find time. But now one of those jobs is fading out and I have more time. I could understand that gain if i was average weight looking to get something more but Im way more than 10lbs underweight. The thing is I just can't stuff myself when Im not hungry and without something making me hungry I wont be able to consume the cals needed to gain the size I would, if I was on deca. I literally get sick from trying to eat when Im not hungry. I got my bench up to 185 from a measely two 25s + the bar at a weight of 140 when I did work out but for some reason thats where I cut off and quit cause for like 3 weeks I tried for the 195 or 2 and couldnt do it. My 3 day a week routine slowly dissipated.

So I'm just gona do Deca. I am gona train for a month and just do it. I have been reading and reading and I have formulated a good workout plan and diet I can adhere myself to with the help of some friends and online.

So what MG a week would be a decent dosage for me? Should I stack it with anything and what? What would be better for me than a solo small dose of deca? Also my friend recommended taking the deca every mon and thurs for 5 weeks, how is that or should I do something different? I plan on working out 3 days a week, mon,wed,fri switching up muscle groups.
 
It can be done without gear.EX: I trained a 33yr old man for 3 months and he gained 15lbs naturaly because he did excatly what I told him as far as training and diet went. He is married,owns his own company that requires him to travel out of state at least once a week.This guy had been stuck at his previous weight for 5yrs and was still dedicated enough to stay at it.YOU NEED TO GROW UP AND LISTEN OR QUIT ASKING FOR ADVICE.ANYBODY CAN MAKE EXCUSES BUT MEN MAKE PROGRESS.
 
you have got to be kidding me. I know your a newbie, but if you realized how stupid you sound right now you would reconsider your actions.

first off, training for 6 months 3 days a week is not training hard, and the 10 lbs you gained shows that if you put a little effort into working out you would gain weight.

second, if you can't eat enough, how do you expect to grow? you think deca will make up for your poor diet?

third, your cycle sucks deca only, 5 weeks long, only 250mg? god, you might as well take 2 licks of a dbol tablet for 3 days, you'll get the same gains.
 
I'm unsubscribing from this thread so this'll be my last post.

If you don't currently know why you stalled on your last training run and don't now know how you'd re-attack the bench then you still don't know enough about training. If your friend has you on a Mon / Thu dosing schedule for 5 weeks for Deca then he knows about as much about it as you do.

I look forwards to your post in about 8 or nine weeks when you're down to 125, have no energy, and are wondering how to get back to 135.
 
jd066 said:
I have trained "hard" for like 6 months before 3 days a week, with only like 9-10 lbs gain.Maybe not hard for yal but Ive always had a tight scheduele with AP classes in HS and now college full time/two jobs and its literally hard to find time. But now one of those jobs is fading out and I have more time. I could understand that gain if i was average weight looking to get something more but Im way more than 10lbs underweight. The thing is I just can't stuff myself when Im not hungry and without something making me hungry I wont be able to consume the cals needed to gain the size I would, if I was on deca. I literally get sick from trying to eat when Im not hungry. I got my bench up to 185 from a measely two 25s + the bar at a weight of 140 when I did work out but for some reason thats where I cut off and quit cause for like 3 weeks I tried for the 195 or 2 and couldnt do it. My 3 day a week routine slowly dissipated.

So I'm just gona do Deca. I am gona train for a month and just do it. I have been reading and reading and I have formulated a good workout plan and diet I can adhere myself to with the help of some friends and online.

So what MG a week would be a decent dosage for me? Should I stack it with anything and what? What would be better for me than a solo small dose of deca? Also my friend recommended taking the deca every mon and thurs for 5 weeks, how is that or should I do something different? I plan on working out 3 days a week, mon,wed,fri switching up muscle groups.
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Damn bro are you that thick in the head? All you've said is I can't do this, I can't do that, WTF? With that attitude you won't do anything. So you and your friend really think that taking deca in those small doses while barely eating and hardly working out is gonna give the edge you need? Well i guess you and your buddy know a good bit more than those of us that have been doing it for years through experience. I wish I could find the fucktard that started this grand illusion that all you have to do is take some gear, sit back and watch the gains come on like a freight train. This is a very slippery slope you're about to ride. For Christ' sake you're even wanting something to stack. If your buddy knows so much, then why are you even here asking us? Do you know the dif. b/n being stupid and being ignorant? Ignorant is doing something wrong and you don't know any better. We're telling you why you shouldn't do what you're proposing but you're going to anyway. Just plain fucking stupid what you're about to do.
 
You know what its just my young ass stubborn head that keeps telling me to do it. Hell I hate needles. So this time Im just gona listen to yal cause 99% of the time when people tell me something it turns out to be true. lol

Alright alright, thank you guys for keeping me from making a mistake. I told him to hold off on the stuff for now and that I should work out first. The only reason I was listening to my friend is cause he is like 6'4 260, and he was like 210 last time I seen him.... (away at university for awile). Also his cousin goes to competitions for lifting and stuff, which is where he gets it from. I figured he knew his gear. Fair enough I will bust ass getting a routinely good diet and learning to mix a good workout into my life before thinking about doing Deca.

So now my questions for yal are now gona pertain to diet and working out. Anyone have a link to a super beginner workout that has no cable exercises in it really, the only thing I lack at home. Aside from the one cable/pulley that you do tricep pull downs with. I found that alot of workouts called for the backrow cable. Preferabally not too strenuious, atleast at first because I am gona need to do a littler lighter workouts for my left elbow. I broke/twisted real bad as a kid and everytime I start working out again it feels hollow and hurts on the bench. But it goes away after like 2-3 weeks.

EATING! I work like 30 hours a week at Office Depot, Attend College for about 7-8 hours a week and work about 10-15 hours a week at a doctors office doing computer work. I need a buncha high protein/cal recipe ideas that arent that high in fat and are kinda cheap. Things I can bring along with me on my works to stuff down fast. I only get 15 min break at OD cause i work 6 hour days, shouldn't really eat in class but can do something quick, the doctors office they are cool with it.

My ideas of diet and nutrition are all skewed. I was givin nothing but fast food mainly growing up, no cooking was done in the house ever I swear. So like here is what Im thinking. Mornings breakfast Id eat alot of cereal with low fat milk and maybe a banana. Lunch tuna sandwich/pbj/pb and celery I dunno, just something high protein. And dinner I would make a meat with either a potatoe/rice side and a vegetable. Also I would take a multi. How is this?

And once I have the eating and working out in my scheduele routinely then I'll get back to thinking about the gear.
 
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scout69 said:
That is light and if I was that size I would say fuck all these guys telling me not to take shit and i'd do it, So I figure your going to do gear anyway but your main concern is to eat right and train right while on or it will all be for nothing
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I actually think this is a good post. Most people that ask about this stuff are intent on doing gear whether we advise against it or not.

Bro, you can still do A LOT with diet and exercise, but if you insist on doing deca, I would run 400mg a week for 10 weeks with 1 pump 2x a day of AIFM which you can get at www.anabolicfitness.net
 
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