Newbie bought some juice, now need advice :)

[stevesmi]

you need grocery bags full of food not steroids. 6 feet and 140 pounds at your age. what do you do for a living? this can be a major issue if you work a labor type job

read the bulking thread in my signature below and you need to improve your workouts in the weight room. there is no way you have your diet and training even close to where it needs to be !1!

 

[Jack steel]

Going from 6ft, 140 to 190 in ten months wih just one cycle sounds about impossible. Get your natural gains in first. Try to put on 20 pounds or so naturally and then start thinking* juice. Or hell, if you are still able to grow naturally at that point just throw in a pro hormone or two. No need to skip the easier steps just to get to the most fun part, regardless of how tempting it might be. Just MHO

 

[rutdipper]

you need grocery bags full of food not steroids. 6 feet and 140 pounds at your age. what do you do for a living? this can be a major issue if you work a labor type job

I was just Thinking to ask this same thing!....what if this guy like works in a boiler room where it's like 120 degrees!!....

Then the question would be how many calories are you burning a day? To those 3-4k calories you say your putting in.

 

[stevesmi]

I was just Thinking to ask this same thing!....what if this guy like works in a boiler room where it's like 120 degrees!!....

Then the question would be how many calories are you burning a day? To those 3-4k calories you say your putting in.

exactly i bet this is the case... i ran into a guy at the gym who did some bathroom work for me a few years back. he remembered me and said hi. he is skinny as a rail and seeked my help to gain and couldn't figure out why he couldn't put on muscle, reason being is the guy does construction work 8 hours a day 5X per week.. he owns his own business and right now he is digging and piping for commercial companies. anyway the guy can't gain either and I feel bad for him, but when you are outside sweating and burning away every ounce of muscle and fat all day its gonna be impossible to bulk. same reason why endurance runners who run almost everyday are skinny. I told him straight up that was the reason he couldn't gain but I also told him its not necessarily a bad thing cause most of America has desk jobs where they sit around all day and get fat. in his case he should be eating like a horse and even dirty bulk until the weight starts coming in

 

[training700]

Still can put on weight I work manual labor high pace job and can get plenty fat/bulk if want too in 3 month summer break. Depends on genetics I suppose losing weight is a pain.

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[snooch pounder]

WTF are u guys talking about? Really? I go from a lab job when our plant is running, to a hell of a manual labor job when it's down...(cutting, welding and the like)..all in the most humid environment in the States! All while wearing full safety/fire retardant gear! Please don't tell me or the OP that any of those conditions hinder gaining muscle. If you try to, then i will reconsider everything I've ever learned on this site. Man the fuck up, OP! Eat, lift, supplement and fuckin grow. Excuses are for pussies! Trust me, there are many, many dudes packing on mass in much tougher conditions!

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[snooch pounder]

Fucking A, the responses in this thread are what is wrong this country! Good God...I'd expect excuses like these from fags from on welfare. Un fucking believable!

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[snooch pounder]

So i jumped the gun a bit. But page 3 this thread is sad. Where u work has no affect on ur muscle growth. Your hours at "said job" do, however. The nature of your work can be overcome as long as u aren't putting in ridiculous hours

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[rutdipper]

WTF are u guys talking about? Really? I go from a lab job when our plant is running, to a hell of a manual labor job when it's down...(cutting, welding and the like)..all in the most humid environment in the States! All while wearing full safety/fire retardant gear! Please don't tell me or the OP that any of those conditions hinder gaining muscle. If you try to, then i will reconsider everything I've ever learned on this site. Man the fuck up, OP! Eat, lift, supplement and fuckin grow. Excuses are for pussies! Trust me, there are many, many dudes packing on mass in much tougher conditions!

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Settle down there sparky!....were not talking about everyone we are talking about the OP....we are just trying to give some options of advice. Everyone's metabolism is different but the answer to gaining is the same.

 

[training700]

Yeah they already said needs to eat more. If are a real hard gainer a manual labor, active job can make it even more difficult BUT still possible gain weight just at a slower pace.

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