Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below In 2008 i was hit by a drunk driver. I had a dozen operations over the years and just basically gave up. Several months ago i decided i needed to try and help myself heal and not depend on dr's and surgery. I had the typical Italian body where 90% of my weight was my gut. I started a winstrol cycle in early november and dropped 42 pounds and became rock hard. I ate properly too, not just winny. I do notice an improvement with my injured shoulders and back. I tried to start lifting again but I'm having trouble even doing 20 pounds. I know this is probably normal because of the substantial injuries I sustained, but I want to make sure I do things properly. Id like to cycle something else but have no clue where to start. I dont want to really get big, just lean and ripped. Can anyone offer advise on what to do? Thanks. Btw im 39 yo and went from 251 to 211. Id liike to drop another 10 lbs. thanks
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HGH would be your best bet ,you could also run a low dosage of test along with it.
For anti-aging, general health & healing, fat mobilization:
For these purposes, a dose of 2-3 IU’s per day will be sufficient for the majority. A dose of 1.5 to 2.0 IU’s is considered to be a full replacement dose for those in their middle-age and beyond.
For gaining lean muscle and substantially improving body composition:
For this purpose a dose of 4-8 IU’s per day will be necessary. Most people will respond very well at a dose of 4-5 IU's per day. For maximum benefit in this regard, the addition of Testosterone, Insulin, and low-dose T3 would be something to seriously consider. More on this in our comparative cycle guide of hGH/Insulin/IGF-1.
Regardless of your goal, as a general rule the best way to begin your hGH program is to start with a low dose and ease your body into the higher doses. This will allow you to avoid or at least minimize many of the more common sides-effects of hGH; such as bloating, joint pain and swelling. Most people can tolerate up to approximately 2 IU’s with few sides, so that would be a good place to start.
For many using this as a general health supplement, that is as high as you will need to go. For others this will only be the start. Above 2.5 – 3 IU’s, I would definitely suggest that your split your injections into two per day instead of one unless it is just not feasible to do so.
Here is what a good ramp up program would look like:
Weeks 1 - 4 = hGH 2 IU’s one injection
Week 5 = hGH 2.5 IU’s one injection
Week 6 = hGH 3.0 IU’s split into two injections of 1.5 IU’s each
Week 7 = hGH 3.5 IU’s split into two injections of 1.75 IU’s each
And so forth until you reach your desired dose.
If at any point in this progression you begin to have unbearable bloating or joint pain, drop the dose by 25% and hold it at this lower dosage for a couple of weeks. If the sides subside, begin your progression back up toward your desired level. If the sides remain, lower your dose again and hold it at the lower level for two weeks before beginning the upward progression. This method will keep your hGH experience a good one and side free for the most part.
For a normal cycle of 5-8 months in length, injecting once or twice a day, 7 days a week should be fine. While there are studies that suggest that the suppression from exogenous hGH is short lived (about 4 hours from injection), there are no large-scale studies to indicate safety of everyday injections in long-term use. There are studies by anti-aging groups demonstrating that a day or two off per week is adequate to protect the pituitary and its triggers over long cycles. If your use of hGH becomes more a lifestyle than a single cycle, I would consider running it 5 on/2 off, or 6 on/ 1 off until such time as we have reliable data demonstrating long-term safety sans any degradation of your own output or the triggers initiating that output.
Another option would be to run your hGH cycle everyday for the first two months to get your IGF-1 levels elevated quickly and to a level to assist you in an anabolic way, then drop back to 5 days a week or only inject Mon-Wed-Fri and take the weekends off.
For anti-aging, general health & healing, fat mobilization:
For these purposes, a dose of 2-3 IU’s per day will be sufficient for the majority. A dose of 1.5 to 2.0 IU’s is considered to be a full replacement dose for those in their middle-age and beyond.
For gaining lean muscle and substantially improving body composition:
For this purpose a dose of 4-8 IU’s per day will be necessary. Most people will respond very well at a dose of 4-5 IU's per day. For maximum benefit in this regard, the addition of Testosterone, Insulin, and low-dose T3 would be something to seriously consider. More on this in our comparative cycle guide of hGH/Insulin/IGF-1.
Regardless of your goal, as a general rule the best way to begin your hGH program is to start with a low dose and ease your body into the higher doses. This will allow you to avoid or at least minimize many of the more common sides-effects of hGH; such as bloating, joint pain and swelling. Most people can tolerate up to approximately 2 IU’s with few sides, so that would be a good place to start.
For many using this as a general health supplement, that is as high as you will need to go. For others this will only be the start. Above 2.5 – 3 IU’s, I would definitely suggest that your split your injections into two per day instead of one unless it is just not feasible to do so.
Here is what a good ramp up program would look like:
Weeks 1 - 4 = hGH 2 IU’s one injection
Week 5 = hGH 2.5 IU’s one injection
Week 6 = hGH 3.0 IU’s split into two injections of 1.5 IU’s each
Week 7 = hGH 3.5 IU’s split into two injections of 1.75 IU’s each
And so forth until you reach your desired dose.
If at any point in this progression you begin to have unbearable bloating or joint pain, drop the dose by 25% and hold it at this lower dosage for a couple of weeks. If the sides subside, begin your progression back up toward your desired level. If the sides remain, lower your dose again and hold it at the lower level for two weeks before beginning the upward progression. This method will keep your hGH experience a good one and side free for the most part.
For a normal cycle of 5-8 months in length, injecting once or twice a day, 7 days a week should be fine. While there are studies that suggest that the suppression from exogenous hGH is short lived (about 4 hours from injection), there are no large-scale studies to indicate safety of everyday injections in long-term use. There are studies by anti-aging groups demonstrating that a day or two off per week is adequate to protect the pituitary and its triggers over long cycles. If your use of hGH becomes more a lifestyle than a single cycle, I would consider running it 5 on/2 off, or 6 on/ 1 off until such time as we have reliable data demonstrating long-term safety sans any degradation of your own output or the triggers initiating that output.
Another option would be to run your hGH cycle everyday for the first two months to get your IGF-1 levels elevated quickly and to a level to assist you in an anabolic way, then drop back to 5 days a week or only inject Mon-Wed-Fri and take the weekends off.
gorillahung
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At age 39 your natural testosterone production is likely declining or has already declined. Also, injured muscles atrophy quickly. I think a dose of 200mg/week of the testosterone of your choice should bring your test levels back to a level where you can develop lean muscle. Don't worry about the poundage you can lift, just concentrate on getting a good lactic acid burn along with a good pump. If you do that then your strength with increase too.
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