New Test. User In Trouble?

[wingd125]

Hello all,
I did my 1st Injection (ever) of Test Cyp about 30 minutes ago... followed all the proper procedures (as far as I can tell)... no blood in syringe, and so on; but 2/3rds the way through the process (200mg Injection) my heart sped up... I started sweating & trembling, & stopped the injection w/ about 30-40 mg left in the tube, for fear of passing out if I didn't sit down.
The sweating & rapid heart beat continued for a few minutes & even started getting some rather painful gas/constipation. I sat down in front of an air conditioner & all symptoms subsided completely after about 10 minutes.
I'll be the first to admit, I'm apprehensive about injections (especially since I'm a "nubie") but I did my homework / research (before-hand) & am 95% confident I did the injection correctly....
But obviously I'm concerned... Was this a result of my subconscious fears & inexperience... do all 1st time users experience this... does this happen Every time (God forbid)... or did I in fact screw something up?
Thanks very much to any who take the time to read & respond, your input &/or advice will be greatly appreciated.
(PS: Self-Injection is my only option at the present time.)

Thanks everyone... no further replies are necessary! Take care & God Bless

 

[Strongbow]

Hello all,
I did my 1st Injection (ever) of Test Cyp about 30 minutes ago... followed all the proper procedures (as far as I can tell)... no blood in syringe, and so on; but 2/3rds the way through the process (200mg Injection) my heart sped up... I started sweating & trembling, & stopped the injection w/ about 30-40 mg left in the tube, for fear of passing out if I didn't sit down.
The sweating & rapid heart beat continued for a few minutes & even started getting some rather painful gas/constipation. I sat down in front of an air conditioner & all symptoms subsided completely after about 10 minutes.
I'll be the first to admit, I'm apprehensive about injections (especially since I'm a "nubie") but I did my homework / research (before-hand) & am 95% confident I did the injection correctly....
But obviously I'm concerned... Was this a result of my subconscious fears & inexperience... do all 1st time users experience this... does this happen Every time (God forbid)... or did I in fact screw something up?
Thanks very much to any who take the time to read & respond, your input &/or advice will be greatly appreciated.
(PS: Self-Injection is my only option at the present time. I'll be joining a gym here in a few days... perhaps I'll find a like-minded (& experienced) individual who I could learn things like this from; but learning & gaining experience from them aside, I doubt seriously I'll ever feel comfortable enough with the idea of having someone else inject me... even if it's easier.)

Your doing injections and haven't even joined the gym. Tell me you have been working out at home or something. ANXIETY, sounds like you had a panic attack. Everybody is a lil anxious first couple of pins, you will be fine.

 

[jacshelb]

Yeah, there's a medical term for this. But basically it's "needle anxiety." One girl who was taking melanotan2 talked about on a forum how she had a similar, but worse, reaction that really couldn't be caused by what she was taking. She was adamant that it was the melanotan, but I'll guarantee it was just anxiety. I used to suffer from horrible panic attacks (one lasted nearly a week- not healthy!) so I know all about them and it tricks your brain into thinking the worst: "I'm having a heart attack!" or "I'm having a stroke because I got a headache!" shit like that. It's been many years since I've had a significant one, thank God, but it sounds like you just got a little freaked out. No big deal, it happens to the best of us

 

[wingd125]

Well, since it takes a week or so for the Cyp to take hold & become active, figured there was no point in joining a gym until the stuff arrived in the mail. Had I joined one the 1st time I ordered it, my membership would already be into it's 3rd steroid-free month, as my 1st order was seized (from a Site which shall remain nameless, & will NEVER buy from again! Not only did they ship only 1 vial of my order; but shipped it in a way that it was guaranteed to be seized... which, is why they only sent just the 1 vial!).
Anyway, had this latest batch been seized, well, it'd be another month waiting for the re-shipped order. But yes I have a home gym, though it's ineffective for what I want to do & accomplish (hence the decision to start Test Cyp injections). I'm 28... I've done it the "natural" way for over a decade & am still nowhere near what I want to be.

Thanks for the post... never had a panic attack, though it sure sounds like that's what it was. Don't really understand though since I wasn't nervous & as stated before, have been well accustomed to the idea for 3+ months now. Weird.

 

[Strongbow]

Well, since it takes a week or so for the Cyp to take hold & become active, figured there was no point in joining a gym until the stuff arrived in the mail. Had I joined one the 1st time I ordered it, my membership would already be into it's 3rd steroid-free month, as my 1st order was seized (from a Site which shall remain nameless, & will NEVER buy from again! Not only did they ship only 1 vial of my order; but shipped it in a way that it was guaranteed to be seized... which, is why they only sent just the 1 vial!).
Anyway, had this latest batch been seized, well, it'd be another month waiting for the re-shipped order. But yes I have a home gym, though it's ineffective for what I want to do & accomplish (hence the decision to start Test Cyp injections). I'm 28... I've done it the "natural" way for over a decade & am still nowhere near what I want to be.

Thanks for the post... never had a panic attack, though it sure sounds like that's what it was. Don't really understand though since I wasn't nervous & as stated before, have been well accustomed to the idea for 3+ months now. Weird.

NOt at all weird, no matter how much you jack your self up in your mind, its not like the actual thing. It will eventually go away, but it is definately less nerve racking if you can get someone else to pin you till you get used to it. I have started to like sticking needles in my ass to much, but that will come with you to, in time.

 

[UncleBee]

Don't feel bad, we're all pussies the first time. I had to have someone do it for me, how lame. And As jacs said a panic attack is prob the issue. I've only have one but I thought I was dying, for real!

 

[burnthiscorpse]

I would drop the test if I were you. Home gym or not, 10 years or not,....Go join a real gym. Get yourself on a real training program. Get yourself on a real diet. No flame intended bro but I have a feeling your diet, if any, is poor. Why would you inject then wait for the "test to kick in" before joining a gym? Again, I'm totally not trying to be an asshole here but it sounds like your totally not in the mind and body state you need to be in when entering the world of AAS.

As far as your injection experience....considering you aspirated properly and getting some of the oil in a vein wasnt the issue, then you had an anxiety attack.

If you really want some help in the right direction, then post up your stats, Height, weight, BF%, Training routine, and post your current diet. Also goals. Let these guys tear that stuff apart and anylize it. Best bros anywhere for getting help are right here.

 

[enacer420nj]

I remember my first few shots...boy was I nervous...until I saw the results

 

[sweed]

you'll be joining a gym in a few days? Do you have any training history?
we need your stats!
read the 'stickies' at thee top of the page!
Welcome!

 

[joe d]

home training will only get you so far. training in a gym will get you much further providing you are eating like someone that wants to build muscle. to put it simple if you are not gaining weight then you are not eating enough, of course there is a lot more to it than that.

i had that exact same panic attack on my first injection. its some scary shit isnt it? every inject after that went fine.

to give you my honest best suggestion i can. put the gear away. and forget about it for a while. hit the gym, eat, and grow for a while. a successful steroid cycle relies 100% on a successful training program and diet before, during, and after the cycle. without these you are pissing in the wind.

 

[centeroiler]

Don't feel bad, we're all pussies the first time. I had to have someone do it for me, how lame. And As jacs said a panic attack is prob the issue. I've only have one but I thought I was dying, for real!

LMAO. I got a hard-on. For real.

Shit, I'm getting one right now just think'n about it. Good thing I'm not on a public computer... at the library!

 

[wingd125]

Thanks guys, panic attack... got it.

As far as "burnthiscorpse"s comments.... I posted a quick message... not my life story bro. I used to go to the gym EVERY DAY when I was in the Military (barring 12hr shifts/exercises, etc.). My diet is not the problem... my Body Is. At the end of my service (which is why it ended), I suffered 4 herniated discs in my thoracic spine (middle spine)... 3 worst ones were operated on (3 max is all they'll operate on @ a time)... end result: made me worse. That particular operation (& only 1 for thoracic herniations) comes with a 50/50 chance -- you either get better or worse; & I got worse. Pain is controlled by heavy doses of Morphine 3x daily & same for muscle spams (heavy dose 3x daily).

Regardless of all that crap, I was never able to get the result I wanted when I was healthy, steroid-free, & in the gym (2+hrs) every day.... Since my "injury", I've wasted away despite my best efforts to a measly 185 (6' 2'') & look like I did back in high school. Because of the muscle spasms, I can't work out too vigorously or frequently (2x week, if lucky)... I'm HOPING the Test Cyp will not only help me build muscle -- but help my muscles recover more quickly, etc. etc. -- as it's suppose to do. So, again, joining a gym, for ME, was pretty pointless until I got the Cyp in my system & gave it a chance to "take hold / take effect".

Now that we all know my "life story" as it relates to why I'm taking it... how about we stop with the insults & talking-down-to-me like I'm an idiot.

The weaker my muscles are (back muscles in particular), the worse my pain & spasms will be -- the less active I can be, etc. etc. This is my last resort, I (and my Doctors) have tried everything else in the last 3 years to combat my issues.... this is litterally my last (and best) hope at improving things; & not just an "egotistical / physique" driven need or desire... with me, it's improving Health & Well-Being. The only reason I waited this long (knowing it was my best option) was because the VA will not prescribe it to me... and as expensive as it is (for someone on a fixed income like myself)... needed to try the Legal, & Doctor Suggested &/or Prescribed avenues first.

See, this is why I just kept it basic at the beginning.
Don't assume someone's taking steroids for the same reasons you are... let alone, assume you know someone's life enough to insult & talk down to them, after reading a short blog.

Aside from that guy --- thanks to everyone who replied. I'm certainly glad to hear it was something so "small" & it should disapate with time/usage. Take care & God bless.

 

[wills_got_rythm]

Thanks guys, panic attack... got it.

As far as "burnthiscorpse"s comments.... I posted a quick message... not my life story bro. I used to go to the gym EVERY DAY when I was in the Military (barring 12hr shifts/exercises, etc.). My diet is not the problem... my Body Is. At the end of my service (which is why it ended), I suffered 4 herniated discs in my thoracic spine (middle spine)... 3 worst ones were operated on (3 max is all they'll operate on @ a time)... end result: made me worse. That particular operation (& only 1 for thoracic herniations) comes with a 50/50 chance -- you either get better or worse; & I got worse. Pain is controlled by heavy doses of Morphine 3x daily & same for muscle spams (heavy dose 3x daily).

Regardless of all that crap, I was never able to get the result I wanted when I was healthy, steroid-free, & in the gym (2+hrs) every day.... Since my "injury", I've wasted away despite my best efforts to a measly 185 (6' 2'') & look like I did back in high school. Because of the muscle spasms, I can't work out too vigorously or frequently (2x week, if lucky)... I'm HOPING the Test Cyp will not only help me build muscle -- but help my muscles recover more quickly, etc. etc. -- as it's suppose to do. So, again, joining a gym, for ME, was pretty pointless until I got the Cyp in my system & gave it a chance to "take hold / take effect".

Now that we all know my "life story" as it relates to why I'm taking it... how about we stop with the insults & talking-down-to-me like I'm an idiot.

The weaker my muscles are (back muscles in particular), the worse my pain & spasms will be -- the less active I can be, etc. etc. This is my last resort, I (and my Doctors) have tried everything else in the last 3 years to combat my issues.... this is litterally my last (and best) hope at improving things; & not just an "egotistical / physique" driven need or desire... with me, it's improving Health & Well-Being. The only reason I waited this long (knowing it was my best option) was because the VA will not prescribe it to me... and as expensive as it is (for someone on a fixed income like myself)... needed to try the Legal, & Doctor Suggested &/or Prescribed avenues first.

See, this is why I just kept it basic at the beginning.
Don't assume someone's taking steroids for the same reasons you are... let alone, assume you know someone's life enough to insult & talk down to them, after reading a short blog.

Aside from that guy --- thanks to everyone who replied. I'm certainly glad to hear it was something so "small" & it should disapate with time/usage. Take care & God bless.

Bro not trying to hijack your thread but I dont think anybody was talking down to you. If you read the stickies posted at the top of the forum they will tell you the rules of the forum and how to post. If you would have started out saying all this you would have gotten more positive answers from those guys.

I understand where you are coming from, although I havent had surgery, I have had injuries. Good luck to you and I hope everything works out for you!!!

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Like I said, I wasnt trying to be an asshole. If you read the stickies you will know that you need to post up your info and backround if you want the right kind of help. IF you posted your diet then we would know it isnt the issue. IF you stated that you had been hardcore in the gym in the past then we might know that training isnt your issue.
You also have to think about what you wrote in your "quick post". Its close to spring bro...its time for all the fucktards to come out of the woodwork and ask how to roid themselves up for summer so they can look pumped at the beach and the bar. Did I say that was you? I dont believe I did.
As I said "no flame intended" but when you make a statment like you were waiting for the injection to kick in before joining a gym? What do you honestly think we would assume? Hence the need to be thourough with your stats, diet, history, goals ect to get the best possible help you can.
AND not to be further negative bro, but if you weretraining natural in the past for 2 hours a day then that was a big part of your problem. You were seriously over training which = NO growth.

 

[bigtravis]

I actually remember my first shot. A bud of mine did it. We placed an icepack against the injection site for about two minutes.
But the first time I did it I remember I walk around with that pin in my hand for about two hours. lol. As soon as it would touch the skin and hurt I'd stop.
I think I remember it being test cyp and 2ml. of the old organon deca in the lil 1ml. vials if anybody remembers those.
But I finaly did it and the rest is history.

 

[jacshelb]

A home gym isn't bad if you have the right stuff. But, like others have said, if you don't, a regular gym is best. I love training at home and haven't gone to a regular gym in a long time. The last one I went to had less actual functional equipment than I do!! They had no squat rack, no smith machine etc. I'm, not so subtly, trying to brag about my home gym It may not be much if I were rich, but for a poor guy scrounging around on Craigslist, I've put together some good stuff: power rack, 3 olympic sets, 1200 lbs in plates, dumbells up to 75 (and bigger custom ones when needed), smith machine (75 bucks on craigslist!!), benches, lat pulldown/row and various other stuff.

I'm like you wingd in that I have bad genetics. I'm 6'2" and only got to around 190 naturally (from 142) and right now I'm right around 225 lbs just getting into my off-season building phase. All the best. Oh, and sometimes you never know how you'll react to a needle. If someone else draws my blood or I'm around someone else having their blood drawn, I pass out!! lol. But, at one point during my last contest prep I was taking close to 10 various shots on certain days with no problems! It's weird, and yeah, I was taking so many shots... it was dumb and not all aas- melanotan2, site injections for arms (first and last time for that!), aas, etc. Again, all the best.

 

[wingd125]

Sorry, you'll have to forgive the fact that I didn't enter in my Diet, Training, etc. while I was freaking out (ie panic attack). Besides, all that info is Entirely Irrelevant considering the Question / Concern posed in the question. The only reason I mentioned the gym part was so people didn't say "well see if you can get someone else to do it for you" & all that.

Also, I tend not to Assume things... Pick your cliche, but those sayings about assumptions are around for a reason. I don't assume, or presume to know, what others will think or what conclusions they'll irrationally jump to without equivocation or cause.
When I have Time, I'll input all that data... perhaps if I didn't spend time replying to posts that had nothing to do with my Question/Concern, it'd be done already.

& say what you want... but anytime someone says "I don't mean to be an asshole, But" or "no flame intended, But"... it's automatically going to be rude, insulting, etc. If you really didn't "mean to be"... or if you didn't "intend" something... you'd find another / better way to say it... or at least wouldn't hide behind the pleasantries & B.S. of a fake Prefix which in your magical world, excludes you from all dissent &/or degradation included or inferred in said statement(s).

PS: 2 Hrs = 1hr weight training, in-between 30min of light warm-up & cool-down exercise, which included calisthenics, aerobics, etc., in order to (warm-up) get my heart-rate at the peak efficiency for weight-lifting. And I did get "big"... I was a Lean 230... and that extra 1hr spent in the gym is what helped me stay Lean. I had no desire to look bloated & there's no point in getting ripped if you're too fat to see the definition in your muscles. See, while you may have been "cheating" with supplements galore... we literally had banned substance lists as long as those for Olympic Athletes, only we didn't get a cover-up if we failed!... nearly 1/2 the GNC Store was off limits, for fear of failing a random drug test (which were often). So when I say "natural", I mean just that. So while you spend 45min to 1hr lifting & calling it quits, letting your fat-burners & whatever else take over afteward -- we (I) had to do it the old fashioned way. But again, absolutely none of this has anything to do with the thread... just your tyrade about how I shouldn't be doing test cyp & should watch my diet, etc. etc. Which again, is absoutely funny, considering especially that you have no idea who I am! MAYBE if my stats Had been posted prior to the need for my thread... Maybe then you'd have some ground to make such wild comments. Seems you're just happier jumping to wild conclusions & assuming, whatever, because it gives you something to do.... You have none of the facts... But always think you know the answers. LOL Good luck with that.

 

[pitbullrocco]

funny thread.

little needle anxiety never killed anyone.... or has it?

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Take whatever you want however you want to take it. It makes no difference to me my man. Stick around and educate yourself a bit and then come talk to me about why we here sometimes assume.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

funny thread.

little needle anxiety never killed anyone.... or has it?

exactly.

 

[centeroiler]

A home gym is great, providing you have the right stuff and most don't. I'm gonna brag a little bit too.

My home gym is better equipped than most commercial gyms. Like you jacshelb, I got about 1500lbs of iron, hex bell sets, Flat, incline/decline benches, a Smith/Cage, Universal Gladiator 5-stack/station w/ leg press, 6 different Cybex machines, etc. I'm not rich, just got great deals on the equipment. (Cybex $150 a machine on Ebay) bought a little at a time.

My point is, even with all this I still go to the gym. I get pumped up just walking in with the atmosphere. Do both. What ever works for you.

A home gym isn't bad if you have the right stuff. But, like others have said, if you don't, a regular gym is best. I love training at home and haven't gone to a regular gym in a long time. The last one I went to had less actual functional equipment than I do!! They had no squat rack, no smith machine etc. I'm, not so subtly, trying to brag about my home gym It may not be much if I were rich, but for a poor guy scrounging around on Craigslist, I've put together some good stuff: power rack, 3 olympic sets, 1200 lbs in plates, dumbells up to 75 (and bigger custom ones when needed), smith machine (75 bucks on craigslist!!), benches, lat pulldown/row and various other stuff.

I'm like you wingd in that I have bad genetics. I'm 6'2" and only got to around 190 naturally (from 142) and right now I'm right around 225 lbs just getting into my off-season building phase. All the best. Oh, and sometimes you never know how you'll react to a needle. If someone else draws my blood or I'm around someone else having their blood drawn, I pass out!! lol. But, at one point during my last contest prep I was taking close to 10 various shots on certain days with no problems! It's weird, and yeah, I was taking so many shots... it was dumb and not all aas- melanotan2, site injections for arms (first and last time for that!), aas, etc. Again, all the best.

 

[2evil]

I would drop the test if I were you. Home gym or not, 10 years or not,....Go join a real gym. Get yourself on a real training program. Get yourself on a real diet. No flame intended bro but I have a feeling your diet, if any, is poor. Why would you inject then wait for the "test to kick in" before joining a gym? Again, I'm totally not trying to be an asshole here but it sounds like your totally not in the mind and body state you need to be in when entering the world of AAS.

As far as your injection experience....considering you aspirated properly and getting some of the oil in a vein wasnt the issue, then you had an anxiety attack.

If you really want some help in the right direction, then post up your stats, Height, weight, BF%, Training routine, and post your current diet. Also goals. Let these guys tear that stuff apart and anylize it. Best bros anywhere for getting help are right here.

I'm sorry bro but this post was spot on. He didn't disrespect you - you just took it that way and I understand why but this bro was only trying to help you.

The way your posts are worded makes it sound like you're only going to train while "on" and I'm still not clear whether or not this is the case.

I think we can all agree that you should have a good natural base before starting a cycle. So if you don't have the equipment at home and you haven't been to the gym how can you have that base?

Now you've already started your cycle so I'm not suggesting you stop. Just make sure you're diet is on point and that you're following a good program to make the most of it. Stick around - good bros here.

Peace.

 

[HAYEZ]

you can have a home gym and be just fine as long as you have the right equipment... i havent been to a gym in 4 yars or so... i have a power rack ,free weights,olympic dumbell bar, adjustable bench lat pul down and row cable with 1000lb cables on it.. ya dont need machines , just need a bunch of weight and a coupel bars hahahahaha

 

[2evil]

you can have a home gym and be just fine as long as you have the right equipment... i havent been to a gym in 4 yars or so... i have a power rack ,free weights,olympic dumbell bar, adjustable bench lat pul down and row cable with 1000lb cables on it.. ya dont need machines , just need a bunch of weight and a coupel bars hahahahaha

+1

I do everything at home too. Once you have the power rack and enough weights it's all down hill. I just need more room now!

 

[centeroiler]

you can have a home gym and be just fine as long as you have the right equipment... i havent been to a gym in 4 yars or so... i have a power rack ,free weights,olympic dumbell bar, adjustable bench lat pul down and row cable with 1000lb cables on it.. ya dont need machines , just need a bunch of weight and a coupel bars hahahahaha

Ah, the blood and guts routine, eh? Maybe go punch some slabs of meat too? ala Rocky. lol

Sure you don't need 'em but they sure are nice to have.

 

[HAYEZ]

+1

I do everything at home too. Once you have the power rack and enough weights it's all down hill. I just need more room now!

u have no idea about space restrictions hahaha...i live in a condo...2 bedroom with 3 people hahah

 

[HAYEZ]

Ah, the blood and guts routine, eh? Maybe go punch some slabs of meat too? ala Rocky. lol

Sure you don't need 'em but they sure are nice to have.

never got into the machines...never used any aceppt lat pulldown..and rarely use that..do weighted pull ups instead..seated rows i do though just to hit it a diff way then the normal rows i do

 

[2evil]

u have no idea about space restrictions hahaha...i live in a condo...2 bedroom with 3 people hahah

OMG! At least you have your priorities in order!

 

[HAYEZ]

OMG! At least you have your priorities in order!

with kids work wife there no time for gym...sometimes ill workout at midnight..they love that noise but whatever lololl

 

[jacshelb]

A home gym is great, providing you have the right stuff and most don't. I'm gonna brag a little bit too.

My home gym is better equipped than most commercial gyms. Like you jacshelb, I got about 1500lbs of iron, hex bell sets, Flat, incline/decline benches, a Smith/Cage, Universal Gladiator 5-stack/station w/ leg press, 6 different Cybex machines, etc. I'm not rich, just got great deals on the equipment. (Cybex $150 a machine on Ebay) bought a little at a time.

My point is, even with all this I still go to the gym. I get pumped up just walking in with the atmosphere. Do both. What ever works for you.

Nice set up man! I agree with you. I had an awesome atmosphere in my home gym because it is part of the same building that houses my tiny retail store and my personal apt (old brick building right downtown) and all my friends used to come down and lift. Well, guess what? I'm the only one left and it's starting to suck, hard to get motivated. I'll probably have to start lifting other places to rekindle the fire pretty soon, so I understand just what you mean. And... I'm jealous of your Cybex deal you got!