Wulfie, the days that it was acceptable to haze new women, we also had a thriving women's board, a very active core group of women about five times the size of the one we've got now, and we could AFFORD to run off the newbs who couldn't take it. Right now we have a flailing women's fitness board, just a few girls who post regularly and most post only in chat. Girls like Amy who can contribute to the fitness board are really important for reviving that part of EF again, so I really hope she comes back and regularly contributes.