new cycle?

[gettinhuge88]

hey, im looking for an efective first 4 to 6 week cycle. I was thinking maybe 20-25mg/day Dbol for 5 weeks and maybe some winny. Followed it up with Clomid. what do u guys think?

 

[genarr3]

Alot of people aren't fans of dBol only cycles and that will reflect on some of the replies you're going to get. I think it's a good way to get your feet wet. 20 - 25mgs is a good dose, but I wouldn't do dBol and winny at the same time. If you're going to do the winny, do it when you're done with the dBol. And yes do the clomid therapy, here's some info on that:
http://209.11.101.244/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29091&highlight=clomid+faq

 

[muscleup]

d-bol and winny are 17aa's and as a rule of thumb never run two 17aa's together...It's to toxic on the liver....Time to get more gear.

 

[GARAGE GORILLA]

Why no test? What about 25 mg d-bol ed wks 1-4 and 200 to 400 mg of test wks 1-8 And clomid at the end. Starting day of clomid would be dependant on what test you choose to run.

 

[muscleup]

good advice GARAGE GORILLA....A typical but very effective first cycle would be....Test at 400mgs a week for 10 weeks
Deca at 300-400mgs aweek for 10 weeks
d-bol the first 4 weeks at 25 mgs a day
winny at 50mgs a day weeks 5-10......This will give you some damn good results if you're training and eating good.

 

[gettinhuge88]

genarr thanks for the response...bump

 

[gettinhuge88]

if im only looking for a 4 to 5 week cycle, is there anything else to do wiht the d-bol or shuld i just do that and the clomid therapy?

 

[muscleup]

I would do a winny only cycle before I would do a d-bol only cycle....at least the gains would be a little more permenant....

 

[genarr3]

if im only looking for a 4 to 5 week cycle, is there anything else to do wiht the d-bol or shuld i just do that and the clomid therapy?

Since it doesn't look like you're into injectables at this point the only other thing you could do would be another oral. That's not the best idea since most aren't liver friendly. I would however get some Nolvadex and have it handy in case gyno rears it's ugly head.

 

[Maxx Out]

if im only looking for a 4 to 5 week cycle, is there anything else to do wiht the d-bol or shuld i just do that and the clomid therapy?

If you're hell bent one only doing a d cycle then run it for 8 weeks pyramiding the dose. Like this:

wk 1 ---- 25mg/day
wk2 ---- 25mg/day
wk3 ---- 30mg/day
wk4 ---- 30mg/day
wk5 ---- 35mg/day
wk6 ---- 25mg/day
wk7 ---- 15mg/day
wk8 ---- 5-10mg/day
wk9 ---- clomid 100mg/day
wk10-11 ---- clomid 50mg/day

Also take nolv. or arimi. throughout cycle.

Maxx >>>>>

 

[muscleup]

aahhh I did not see it until genarr3 pointed it out...Man if you're afraid of needles then you need to re-think doing steroids ...You will get your best gains from injectables.....