New cycle, old painful gear

[Big Ry]

Hello,

I'm new here; just registered. I started using AAS a few years ago. I have a handful of cycles under my belt now. I've been out of that scene for about a year or so now for unrelated reasons. I decided to get back and run another cycle this summer.

I'm going to run 12 weeks of test with a dbol kick start and finish with 4 weeks of clomid/nolva pct. I have some test c on its way, enough for 500mg/week. I also have some leftover test e from a previous cycle. I got that older test from a reputable member at bodybuilding.com. However, since the very first inject, I would get serious pain. I tried pinning different sites, tried cutting with fresh oil, tried cutting with another pharms test...nothing eased the pain. On one of the first pins, I tried putting 1ml in my bicep (1st bicep pin id done). The pain got so bad that I had to go to the doctor. My bicep got a tad swollen and a little red. Other sites weren't this bad. I thought maybe I was allergic to the oil. But I asked the guy who sold it to me and he confirmed it was an oil id used many times before (cottonseed I think).

Now I'm wanting to try using it again since I paid good money for it and still got about 15ml left. Im still worried about the pain thought. I've also tried warming the gear and doing slow 1-2min injects. Any idea on what else I could try to ease the pain? Or do you have any idea what on earth could possibly be making it hurt so bad? Could recooking the gear help at all? I feel like there just has to be a reason for this and a solution to the problem.

Thanks in advance

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[kc17]

Im sure the gear was not good !! my first cycle was with some dirty gear and I used to get bruises and swollen glutes from each injection ! imo if the pain was that bad i wouldn't use it again !!! its your health bro ..keep that in mind ,
Im currenlty running some test e twice a week and feel no pain at all ... smooth as butter the way it should be.
--It most be from an uglab ?? right

 

[Big Ry]

Yeah, I can't afford human grade. Wouldn't filtering clean dirty gear?

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[kc17]

dont know but try to get another brand... mine is also from an uglab and is very smooth ...

 

[RADAR]

The BA content may be too high i would try baking it.

 

[Big Ry]

The BA content may be too high i would try baking it.

I'm thinking it may have been something like that. Where can I find instructions on baking it?

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[RADAR]

insert an 18G pin into the top to relieve pressure, bake at 200 degrees for 15 minutes.

 

[Big Ry]

insert an 18G pin into the top to relieve pressure, bake at 200 degrees for 15 minutes.

Fahrenheit? And won't the rubber stopper and plastic lure lock on the needle melt?

I've been reading about people putting sterile water in the vial over night because the BA prefers bonding with the water. Afterwards the water is removed with a syringe. I have some bac water from previous HCG usage. It has BA in it, but can it still be used to remove excess BA from gear?

I'm hoping to avoid baking simply because I live with 3 other guys that don't know I use AAS. Itd be pretty hard to conceal baking gear.

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[Big Ry]

Bump for answer to last post

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[DaBangEm]

Well I think the issue is settled then. Something is wrong enough that you'd have to try to re bake it and it's so painful it makes you swollen and had to visit a doctor because of it. IMO, toss it and never use that source again. That's the type of stuff we all hear stories from bro. The bad ones. The most pain I've felt from my test has been some muscle soreness when I first introduced it into my body and the pain from a pin.

 

[HAYEZ]

Fahrenheit? And won't the rubber stopper and plastic lure lock on the needle melt?

I've been reading about people putting sterile water in the vial over night because the BA prefers bonding with the water. Afterwards the water is removed with a syringe. I have some bac water from previous HCG usage. It has BA in it, but can it still be used to remove excess BA from gear?

I'm hoping to avoid baking simply because I live with 3 other guys that don't know I use AAS. Itd be pretty hard to conceal baking gear.

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anyone suggesting you put water into a oil vial is a complete and fucking utter moron...dont ever listen to anyone that posted in any thread suggesting it...

its just got to much ba
its not dirty
its not bad
if you draw 1 ml of the test draw 2 ml sterile oil and mix it...it will fix it...i have had crippling test prop that swole up every body part i ever injected the size of a golf ball...1ml to 1ml fixed that so i couldnt imagine it not fixing yours...

bi injects are not comfortable with most people to start with...do not inject painful gear into ur bi hahahahahaha i have had bad pec and bi injects that huge lumps formed off the side and couldnt move for days so i feel ya

 

[Big Ry]

anyone suggesting you put water into a oil vial is a complete and fucking utter moron...dont ever listen to anyone that posted in any thread suggesting it...

its just got to much ba
its not dirty
its not bad
if you draw 1 ml of the test draw 2 ml sterile oil and mix it...it will fix it...i have had crippling test prop that swole up every body part i ever injected the size of a golf ball...1ml to 1ml fixed that so i couldnt imagine it not fixing yours...

bi injects are not comfortable with most people to start with...do not inject painful gear into ur bi hahahahahaha i have had bad pec and bi injects that huge lumps formed off the side and couldnt move for days so i feel ya

I said before that I cut it with oil and it didn't help.

And I hope you're not dismissing the water thing simply because oil isnt hydrophilic...

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[HAYEZ]

I said before that I cut it with oil and it didn't help.

And I hope you're not dismissing the water thing simply because oil isnt hydrophilic...

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ok sir...you didn't specify how much oil you cut it with... i said 1ml to 2ml i couldn't imagine it still hurting...
now if you had any idea about steroids and WHY you have painful injections then you would know that BENZOYL ALCOHOL is the cause of pain...dilute the ba dilute the pain case closed nothing else to talk about...


now about your hydrophilic... (have to include the ... cause obviously your suggesting im a fucking retard) you want to pump water into your vial of oil feel fucking free bro...and ya know what when your having that abscess drained at the ER you just enjoy that..sorry for giving you some outlook since obviously your clueless

 

[Big Ry]

ok sir...you didn't specify how much oil you cut it with... i said 1ml to 2ml i couldn't imagine it still hurting...
now if you had any idea about steroids and WHY you have painful injections then you would know that BENZOYL ALCOHOL is the cause of pain...dilute the ba dilute the pain case closed nothing else to talk about...


now about your hydrophilic... (have to include the ... cause obviously your suggesting im a fucking retard) you want to pump water into your vial of oil feel fucking free bro...and ya know what when your having that abscess drained at the ER you just enjoy that..sorry for giving you some outlook since obviously your clueless

You're the clueless one, my friend. Where on earth do you get the idea that water will cause an abscess? Ever hear of IM or SQ B12 shots? Cutting gear with B12? Yeah, you probably havent since you ARE a fucking retard.

Btw, the cut was 1:1 with no change in pain. And BA is definitely NOT the only source of pain...crashed gear, foreign debris? God, read a damn book then you can come back in here and make not so ignorant posts.

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[HAYEZ]

You're the clueless one, my friend. Where on earth do you get the idea that water will cause an abscess? Ever hear of IM or SQ B12 shots? Cutting gear with B12? Yeah, you probably havent since you ARE a fucking retard.

Btw, the cut was 1:1 with no change in pain. And BA is definitely NOT the only source of pain...crashed gear, foreign debris? God, read a damn book then you can come back in here and make not so ignorant posts.

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you just mix your oil and water together and let me know how that works for ya buddy...yes b12 and oil is the best mixture ever..carry on

 

[Big Ry]

I just joined here and I've read a surprising amount of incorrect and outright dangerous advice. People suggesting cycles with no test, oral only cycles, justifying the skipping of PCT. And now an arrogant prick like you giving out advice that I know for a fact is false...but you refuse to admit your fault. That's enough for me; this board clearly lacks education. Is sad. Have fun with your liver failure and impotence.

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[DaBangEm]

I just joined here and I've read a surprising amount of incorrect and outright dangerous advice. People suggesting cycles with no test, oral only cycles, justifying the skipping of PCT. And now an arrogant prick like you giving out advice that I know for a fact is false...but you refuse to admit your fault. That's enough for me; this board clearly lacks education. Is sad. Have fun with your liver failure and impotence.

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Somebody might have said it before(they wanted to use an oral only cycle) or said they wanted to do one and there might have been advice on how to do it correctly (without a stacked test) but for the most part everyone here is looking out for everybody else.

The standard is to not mix oil and water. They just don't mix well together. Hope you stick around because this board is full of newbies like myself who have gained tons of knowledge and the vets on the board are outstanding. I promise you won't find an overall greater knowledge base than right here. Don't let one word fight from one member that you both got heated over ruin what is to be offered on here.

 

[DaBangEm]

Also forgot to include PCT. I have also not seen one post about skipping PCT. an if anyone has suggested it then they were immediately corrected. And I have yet to see one of those either.

 

[HAYEZ]

I just joined here and I've read a surprising amount of incorrect and outright dangerous advice. People suggesting cycles with no test, oral only cycles, justifying the skipping of PCT. And now an arrogant prick like you giving out advice that I know for a fact is false...but you refuse to admit your fault. That's enough for me; this board clearly lacks education. Is sad. Have fun with your liver failure and impotence.

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my dicks still a raqing and my livers fantastic...been on 5 years straight now ,and cycling for 8..maybe one day i will gain the knowledge and experience that you have...

but unfortunately your mixing of the oil and water together for injects just destroys all credibility you could ever have considering its one of the 1st things any aas user would learn that is a NO NO...

stick around and learn some things...and when you get checked for being wrong don't throw a fit and start raggin on the board..water and oil do not mix..case closed