New cycle advice

[damn shame]

New cutting cycle advice

Hi

New to the forum.

About to take my second course this year and was thinking about the following. My goals are to increase strength, get cut and add some quality muscle with minimal water retention.

Week 1 to 10 500mg test ethenate EW
Week 1 to 10 200mg tren ethenate EW
Week 4 to 12 100mg Anavar ED (I have enough for 10 weeks but not sure if this would be too long?)
Week 1 to 12 25mg provirum ED
Arimidex 0.5mg EOD

Week 9 to 10 500ui HCG ED
Week 13 to 16 PCT
Nolvadex 4 weeks 60/40/20/10

I will also be taking LGI Damage Control and Liv 52.

I train 4 days a week and do quite a bit of cardio. My current weight is 85KG, have to loose maybe 7KG more fat. I would like to end up at 80KG and lean.

A couple of questions

Just wondering if you guys think this would be a good cycle or should it be tweaked in any way?

Would it be better to take the HCG at 500ui PW throughout the course instead of a 2 week block before PCT?

Also would it be OK to inject the tren and test in one shot per week as they both have the same half life?

Thanks in advance.

 

[EZ_E]

85KG at what height? Age?

2nd cycle this year? What's your cycle history?

Training history?

 

[damn shame]

85KG at what height? Age?

2nd cycle this year? What's your cycle history?

Training history?

I am 5ft 9in, 41 years old

Been training for 15 years (with breaks) and this will be my 4th cycle in total. (2nd this year)

 

[dylangemelli]

Re: New cutting cycle advice

Hi

New to the forum.

About to take my second course this year and was thinking about the following. My goals are to increase strength, get cut and add some quality muscle with minimal water retention.

Week 1 to 10 500mg test ethenate EW
Week 1 to 10 200mg tren ethenate EW
Week 4 to 12 100mg Anavar ED (I have enough for 10 weeks but not sure if this would be too long?)
Week 1 to 12 25mg provirum ED
Arimidex 0.5mg EOD

Week 9 to 10 500ui HCG ED
Week 13 to 16 PCT
Nolvadex 4 weeks 60/40/20/10

I will also be taking LGI Damage Control and Liv 52.

I train 4 days a week and do quite a bit of cardio. My current weight is 85KG, have to loose maybe 7KG more fat. I would like to end up at 80KG and lean.

A couple of questions

Just wondering if you guys think this would be a good cycle or should it be tweaked in any way?

Would it be better to take the HCG at 500ui PW throughout the course instead of a 2 week block before PCT?

Also would it be OK to inject the tren and test in one shot per week as they both have the same half life?

Thanks in advance.

your definitely running anavar too long and FAR too high... you have your test and tren backwards as you should really run test lower than tren, especially considering your goals... i see a lot of problems for you if you run this the way you have it laid out... have you ran tren before?? do you have all the proper ancillaries for the cycle?

 

[damn shame]

your definitely running anavar too long and FAR too high... you have your test and tren backwards as you should really run test lower than tren, especially considering your goals... i see a lot of problems for you if you run this the way you have it laid out... have you ran tren before?? do you have all the proper ancillaries for the cycle?

Everyone I have spoke to has told me to run the test and tren at those doses so now a little confused.

I have ran tren in the past, I do have prami which I will be taking at 0.125 mg per day. I am busy tweaking the cycle while I wait for everything to arrive.

Trying to get bacteriostatic water in Thailand to mix HCG is proving very difficult.

After doing some more research and getting some advice I am thinking about doing the following.

1-12 Test E - 500mg EW (split Mon & Thurs)
1-12 Tren E - 300mg EW (split Mon & Thurs)
7-12 Var - 80mg/day

1-12 adex - 0.5mg EOD
1-12 Proviron - 50mg ED
1-12 Prami – 0.125mg ED

3-12 HCG - 1000iu EW (split Mon & Thurs)

Wait 2 weeks then commence PCT

15-18 Clomid - 100/50/25/25
15-18 nolva - 60/40/20/10
(cannot get aromasin)

During the cycle I will be taking, LGI Damage Control, Liv 52, Milk Thistle and Fish Oil. My diet is very good.

A few of things I am still unsure about,

should I run the adex during the 2 weeks after my last shot before starting PCT?
can I mix the HCG with sterile water or saline water if I cannot get bacs? (will it store well?)
anything else I can add to my PCT in place of aromasin?
any other advice?

As always any help is appreciated.

 

[RickRock13]

Optimal Tren and Test dosages vary from person to person. I prefer test higher, where some prefer it lower. If you've never ran Tren before its best to keep test low your first time to assess side effects. Higher test can bring more sides for some people.

Your PCT will need more, and you can get quality aromasin from AG Guys. Here is my recommendation

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http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/b...17-not-your-average-test-booster-1257533.html

 

[damn shame]

I will probably start off on 250mg Test E a week for the first few weeks to gauge my response.

 

[TheKid7]

Everyone I have spoke to has told me to run the test and tren at those doses so now a little confused.

I have ran tren in the past, I do have prami which I will be taking at 0.125 mg per day. I am busy tweaking the cycle while I wait for everything to arrive.

Trying to get bacteriostatic water in Thailand to mix HCG is proving very difficult.

After doing some more research and getting some advice I am thinking about doing the following.

1-12 Test E - 500mg EW (split Mon & Thurs)
1-12 Tren E - 300mg EW (split Mon & Thurs)
7-12 Var - 80mg/day

1-12 adex - 0.5mg EOD
1-12 Proviron - 50mg ED
1-12 Prami – 0.125mg ED

3-12 HCG - 1000iu EW (split Mon & Thurs)

Wait 2 weeks then commence PCT

15-18 Clomid - 100/50/25/25
15-18 nolva - 60/40/20/10
(cannot get aromasin)

During the cycle I will be taking, LGI Damage Control, Liv 52, Milk Thistle and Fish Oil. My diet is very good.

A few of things I am still unsure about,

should I run the adex during the 2 weeks after my last shot before starting PCT?
can I mix the HCG with sterile water or saline water if I cannot get bacs? (will it store well?)
anything else I can add to my PCT in place of aromasin?
any other advice?

As always any help is appreciated.

PCT is not good enough. HCG Can't be ran like that. That's a lot of Var. Lower test higher tren for first time user. Caber > Prami as far as sides. Yes to the adex. Sterile water is fine, BAC water is simple to get though.. Add a natty t booster like HCGen ES or Test Stack17, maybe ostarine to complement. Sorry if I missed some didn't read your entire post because you still need to do more research imo

 

[damn shame]

PCT is not good enough. HCG Can't be ran like that. That's a lot of Var. Lower test higher tren for first time user. Caber > Prami as far as sides. Yes to the adex. Sterile water is fine, BAC water is simple to get though.. Add a natty t booster like HCGen ES or Test Stack17, maybe ostarine to complement. Sorry if I missed some didn't read your entire post because you still need to do more research imo

Would lowering the Var to 50mg ED for 6 weeks make much of a difference to the final results?

From what I have read HCG mixed with sterile water has to be used within a week? Am I correct in thinking I should run HCG weeks 11 & 12 1000iu EW (split Mon & Thurs) to kick start PCT and help rectify testicular atrophy? Seems like a short amount of time to try and correct any issues I may have with shrinkage.

Cannot get Caber only Prami. I have used Tren before with no issues.

Bacs water is difficult to get in Thailand, I have ordered some so will see if it arrives.

I will look into natural test boosters, looked at HCGen ES for PCT but not sure where to buy or what the dosage is? Cannot click on the link for Test Stack17 information am getting a malware warning and the page will not open . I want to get everything right before I even start the cycle so all advice is greatly appreciated.

Thanks again.

 

[dylangemelli]

if you have quality anavar then going over 60 mg is completely unnecessary... if its shitty then you would need it higher but im telling you, quality anavar does not need to be dosed that high...

for hcgenerate or the es version, the dosing protocol is 3 caps a.m. and 2 caps p.m... everything can be shipped to you... I would HIGHLY recommend stacking gw-501516 with tren... i am going to give you some links to read that will explain how it mitigates the sides and allows for maximum results... Combating the Cardiovascular Side Effects of Trenbolone with GW-501516 - Evolutionary.org and GW-501516 (Cardarine) with your cycle - Evolutionary.org


i really like that you are incorporating proviron... i won't run a cycle without it... its highly effective... make sure you are dosing your prami at night bro because the sides can be horrible on it...

for you gw, get it at SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators...

i am providing you a full pct layout and an article explaining as to why and what everything in it addresses...

you do what you want with your test and tren... i would recommend testing the waters first as you said you might just to see how you react... here is the pct protocol



The Perfect Post Cycle Therapy (PCT) - Evolutionary.org


PCT


clomid 50/50/25/25 AG-guys.com

nolva 40/20/20/20 AG-guys.com

aromasin 12.5 mg eod AG-guys.com

n2guard n2bm.com
mk-2866 25 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators

gw-501516 20 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators




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