http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/p...uilding-gallery/yay-gay-body-pics-557320.htmlBig Rick Rock said:I think its only fair you post your own before you ask.
Vagabino said:i just wanna see what needto looks like, i've never seen a pic of him
Tatyana said:Is that just Needsto or all the mods?
I thought we had determined in another thread that huge biceps were not indicative of knowledge on AAS?
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Tatyana said:I like this pic of Needsto..........
Vagabino said:pics pics!
Big Rick Rock said:I think its only fair you post your own before you ask.
ceo said:
Vagabino said:pics pics!
ceo said:of course there's always this one too (his proudest) NSFW!!
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/6388555-post1.html
dead_reggin_storage_fashi said:those hands are the same hands that make great meatlofe.
based on that face alone, how could you complain about the food at Chilis??
dead_reggin_storage_fashi said:those hands are the same hands that make great meatlofe.
based on that face alone, how could you complain about the food at Chilis??
dead_reggin_storage_fashi said:so he is the guy giving steroid advice? him?
are you fucking kidding me?
lol
nice place btw lol!
bw1 said:I have never really paid to much attention to the advise he gives, so I don't know about that. He does seem to have alot of people here who worship him, I don't know what that's all about.
ceo said:Funny, I can't seem to find his old log in the training forum. It was viewable just a couple days ago though. Hmmmm?
Anyone remember that thread? Where he talked about his 22" guns and 34" thighs? Legs as big as Platz's!!! LOL!
dame I wish I cood pul up that thred agin.
bw1 said:I have never really paid to much attention to the advise he gives, so I don't know about that. He does seem to have alot of people here who worship him, I don't know what that's all about.
This is far from odd and is actually logical to some degree. Members equate # of posts with seniority / experience here at EF, which is not the wrong approach, IMO. Now, if someone ONLY looks at # of posts, then they are fools. But, it's only natural to use that as a barometer for judging someone. When a new mod comes along that has never posted or nobody has ever heard of (and no background is given about said mod), it's only natural to be wary if this person as an advice-giver. It cuts all ways.Tatyana said:Maybe you should pay attention to the advise he gives, then you would understand why he is worshipped.
Needsto gives great advice, he knows his stuff and he is also diplomatic and doesn't flame peeps.
He is incredibly helpful and goes out of his way for the lads.
There does seem to be something a bit odd going on, as there are comments that if you don't have many posts you are not 'qualified' to be a mod, and also that having 20 inch guns (how you look) does not qualify you either to give advice.
Personally, I think he is fantastic.
KillahBee said:This is far from odd and is actually logical to some degree. Members equate # of posts with seniority / experience here at EF, which is not the wrong approach, IMO. Now, if someone ONLY looks at # of posts, then they are fools. But, it's only natural to use that as a barometer for judging someone. When a new mod comes along that has never posted or nobody has ever heard of (and no background is given about said mod), it's only natural to be wary if this person as an advice-giver. It cuts all ways.
And as far as the "your advice means nothing without rippled abs and 22" pythons", there is also a degree of sensibility to this approach. There is a reason NFL players tend to gravitate more towards coaches who are former players vs. coaches who never played - regardless of how great their mind / advice is. There's a lot of stock in "I've been there, done that. I am one of you" when giving/taking advice.
You can't discount any of these factors. And they should be just that - factors. Factors in a formula with several layers used to judge those that are giving advice.
Oh, and needto is a good bor. Good heart on that kid.
Phaded said:no need to throw low blows at someones body..
uncalled for.
all the whey said:You tell'em fatty!!!@@!!
Tatyana said:Good post.
With regards to new mods, backgrounds are posted in the sections they are responsible for, so for example, Mandi and I have our associations with fitness and bodybuilding in the Women's Forum.
Scotsman has more info about himself in the Powerlifting and Weightlifting forums.
As I mentioned in an intro thread in chat, I rarely post in chat. My focus on Elite is diet and training, with a particular focus on women.
With regard to AAS, there are a lot of peeps out there who have never competed in a sport to the national level, or never competed at all, but they may still have the background, education and experience that does qualify them to give advice.
Especially to others who never have any intention of competing, and a lot of the lads on this board fall into this category.
bw1 said:I have never really paid to much attention to the advise he gives, so I don't know about that. He does seem to have alot of people here who worship him, I don't know what that's all about.
txbondsman said:why you being such a hater man? I saw someone hatin on you yesterday in a thread. Stuff like that is uncalled for.
Your a good dude and so is he, leave it at that....
Mavafanculo said:learning factoids about steroids, diet, training etc and then regurgitating them is easy - anybody with a brain can do it. People skills, patience and diplomacy you either have or you dont, and needto has all three. I dont know about the past, but since he made Mod I've never seen him give advice that in my opinion was outright wrong, and its usually quite good imo. if he doesnt know something he'll say so (same with me).
Big Rick Rock said:A lot of people drinking Hatorade up in this piece.
Needto has never made any claims about his knowledge or physique.
Does he give advice?
ONLY to those that ask him for it, and the advice is always free of charge. Whats there to be mad about? Some of you are stupid to even bring this shit up.
txbondsman said:why you being such a hater man? I saw someone hatin on you yesterday in a thread. Stuff like that is uncalled for.
Your a good dude and so is he, leave it at that....
Angel said:typical haters up in this shit
bw1 said:Wait, I'm not hatin on need2, he's ok in my book. I'm not saying he knows or doesn't know what he's talking about. I just said, I don't know because I never really paid any attention to what he says. I just think he got called out, (not by me) on his claims of 22" guns etc. I can give a crap what kind of shape he's in.
Phaded said:no need to throw low blows at someones body..
uncalled for.
The Old Vet said:I'll give him props too for posting his cock. Not many people will do that and it takes balls
Angel said:typical haters up in this shit
patsfan1379 said:Yes or no question.
Would you take real life MMA lessons from a guy who has only read about MMA on the internet?
Tatyana said:Jealousy and Hatred are harsh mistresses.
These are emotions that will eat you up from the inside and age you faster than any others.
Really destructive, living with them are their own punishment IMHO.
The Old Vet said:I disagree.
Those emotions, coupled with greed, lust and all the other so-called bad emotions, are what keep the wheels of society moving. Those emotions produce greatness.
Great people like Picasso, Michaelangelo, leading up to many modern day greats, have all been plagued with errant emotions that made them possessed with creativity and drive - all of which have lead to significant contributions toward society.
Complacency leads to mediocrity.
Tatyana said:True, however if you are dominated by negative emotions, dwell in them, I do think that this is a different scenario.
It is interesting that Buddhists strive to eliminate these emotions, and that the Christian religion refers to them as the 7 deadly sins.
The poison is all in the dosage.

Mavafanculo said:alittle song, alittle dance, alittle seltzer down your pants
Big Rick Rock said:Now we are getting somewhere.
I can give you a yes or no answer, I just need more info...
Did the guy ever train himself or just read the material? TRAINED HIMSELF WITH TONS OF JUICY BUT MEDIOCRE TO SUB-MEDIOCRE RESULTS
If he DID train himself, for how long? YEARS OF TRAINING FOR MEDIOCRE RESULTS
Did he train any other fighters with any other previous fighter with any success? NO RECORD OF ANY SUCCESS TRAINING OTHERS TO RESULT
Gimme some stats of the best 3 guys in his camp? MEDIOCRE AT BEST
Is this guys going to be my main coach, or just someone to help me with a specific part of the MMA spectrum? HE'LL GIVE YOU ADVICE ON WHATEVER YOU ASK
Is he the only coach in that area of my training or I'm I just consulting him for specific skills? THERE ARE TONS OF OTHER COACHES WHO HAVE LONG HISTORIES, SUCCESSFUL FIGHTING CAREERS AND NUMEROUS AWARDS.
Finally, am I paying for his help, or is it free of charge? YOU WOULD NOT BE PAYING, BUT HIS ADVICE MAY PUT YOUR LIFE AT RISK IF HE TRAINS YOU, YOU BELIEVE HIM AND YOU PROCEED TO JUMP IN THE RING AND GET YOUR NECK SNAPPED.
Gimme something more to go on, I'll give you a yes or no answer as you asked.
Mavafanculo said:alittle song, alittle dance, alittle seltzer down your pants
velvett said:IN!?
RottenWillow said:Is it the popular belief that NT's AAS advice is sound? Does it make sense? Is it consistent with most advice of that nature from other authoritative sources?
Those arent rhetorical since I dont read the AAS board.
If the answers are yes then NT's physique is completely irrelevant, and it doesnt matter if he's a beanpole or a 6 foot Pillsbury Doughboy. If the answers are no then NT's physique is completely irrelevant and it doesnt matter if he's the greatest bodybuilder of all time.
patsfan1379 said:HIS ADVICE MAY PUT YOUR LIFE AT RISK IF HE TRAINS YOU, YOU BELIEVE HIM AND YOU PROCEED TO JUMP IN THE RING AND GET YOUR NECK SNAPPED.
dannomight said:bottom line is you don't have to practice what you preach. i give out diet advice almost daily whether it be here, peeps at the gym, or even co-workers and I eat fast food and garbage daily unless I'm prepping for a competition. Granted I have decent genetics and maintain a lean physique. Plus he (needto) is one of the few that actually help out on the a.a.s. discussion forum.
oh yeah round and round and round we go..........
Good Point.redguru said:YEAH, BUT I DOUBT YOU LIE ABOUT YOUR PHYSIQUE AND LIFTS.
needtogetaas said:Ha ha ha ha.. Same old people ceo,patsfan,TheOldVet,redguru,dead_reggin_storage_fashi, And maybe a few more. I find
It fanny 90% are active members of the needto hate board....
Any way I never clam to be a body builder Now did I. I am 27 I have 3 kids and 2 full time jobs. You want to see pics of me as a skinny guy. lol I already posted them. Pics of me when I was in the army. Remember bino? You asked why I was so skinny.
I lift for strength and size now nothing more. I have my own goals in life and they are not the goals you designate for me. First it was no one likes needto. Well I have hundreds of people that like me and come to me all the time. Then it was needto can't spell. Then it was needto wont make a good mod. On and on and on. Give it a rest already. YOU WILL NEVER BRING ME DOWN. You can't win! you have tried and tried to no avail. Like Fishtales said "lot of talking in circles here".
I make it a point now to not get into e-altercation on the c&c board about dumb shit like this. So this will be my last post on the matter and I am off to the board that needs me. I work hard on that board and go out of my way to help a whole lot of people for nothing more then peanuts. I Put in a lot of time in reading ,researching ,learning all for the aas board. I have used plenty of aas for my own goals and personal
use. I am not dead and have no health problems. I have reached goals that I wanted to reach and yes I have helped others to do the same. Want me to turn this thread into a who has needto helped thread. I damn well can,so forget that half ass attempt.
Get over your selfs non of you are aas gods or body building pros ether. You have your goals I have mine. You have your life I have mine. I don't force my life or my goals on any one. If I had my way we would all be power lifters. So sorry I can't stick around and flam all day and waist the time I could be helping others reach there goals.
Have a nice night.

MightyMouse69 said:This thread shows how messed up things are here...
A year ago; Need2 and Gambino would of laughed and flamed back and forth - now people are picking sides.
Now I understand why in the military officers can't fraternize with the grunts.
This whole thread is pathetic.
Smurfy said:who is AR?
needtogetaas said:Ha ha ha ha.. Same old people ceo,patsfan,TheOldVet,redguru,dead_reggin_storage_fashi, And maybe a few more. I find
It fanny 90% are active members of the needto hate board....
Any way I never clam to be a body builder Now did I. I am 27 I have 3 kids and 2 full time jobs. You want to see pics of me as a skinny guy. lol I already posted them. Pics of me when I was in the army. Remember bino? You asked why I was so skinny.
I lift for strength and size now nothing more. I have my own goals in life and they are not the goals you designate for me. First it was no one likes needto. Well I have hundreds of people that like me and come to me all the time. Then it was needto can't spell. Then it was needto wont make a good mod. On and on and on. Give it a rest already. YOU WILL NEVER BRING ME DOWN. You can't win! you have tried and tried to no avail. Like Fishtales said "lot of talking in circles here".
I make it a point now to not get into e-altercation on the c&c board about dumb shit like this. So this will be my last post on the matter and I am off to the board that needs me. I work hard on that board and go out of my way to help a whole lot of people for nothing more then peanuts. I Put in a lot of time in reading ,researching ,learning all for the aas board. I have used plenty of aas for my own goals and personal
use. I am not dead and have no health problems. I have reached goals that I wanted to reach and yes I have helped others to do the same. Want me to turn this thread into a who has needto helped thread. I damn well can,so forget that half ass attempt.
Get over your selfs non of you are aas gods or body building pros ether. You have your goals I have mine. You have your life I have mine. I don't force my life or my goals on any one. If I had my way we would all be power lifters. So sorry I can't stick around and flam all day and waist the time I could be helping others reach there goals.
Have a nice night.
Knock It Off said:I'd like to see the member bashing on the mod board. I get the impression that the mod board is a lot like the ladies room.
ceo said:just get a COTB membership and you can see it.
lol...yeah, & after I pay for a silver frame around my name and access to yet another gossip board, I'll put a shotgun in my mouth and have some 00 buck for dinnerceo said:just get a COTB membership and you can see it.
ceo said:wtf are you reading? There's a "needto hate board"? Again, show me how I'm a "hater". I think I will go make a "my opinion of needto" thread. How is anyone pushing their goals on you bro? You should calm down a little. There is a board you go there and do a search on my name and you will get 7 pages of hate post and threads. Yes you are on that board making post about me...
Only thing I questioned were your measurements after seeing your pics. Sorry bro but those just don't look like 22 inch gunz, and I really doubt your legs are as big as Platz's. If I am wrong, shit I'll be the first to post up and say I was.
My arms are not 22 right now. I bet my legs are what I said they were or at least close right now. I will send that in a pm to you if you want.
As far as my opinion of you (again - my opinion):
I think you are a decent guy who always wants to help. I have a friend like you. Good guy, always trying to help people and never asks for anything in return. Absolutely some of the best qualities a person can have.
Thank you
It seems to me that you give advice that is commonly accepted as popular. Everyone that uses AAS outside of exactly as prescribed by a physician is using it "off-label" so they are all experimenting. Your advice (as far as I've seen) doesn't appear to be reckless. It actually seems to be "safe" (for off-label drug usage) compared to others' advice, which is good considering you're giving it to mostly n00bs. Much of the advice I've seen from you I've seen from countless others before you. Do I think you got it from others? Sure. We all start somewhere. Do I think you've experimented beyond advice you've given? Probably.
I give advice to both new and old users. I have also went against the crowed with things like dermacrin sustain and many people have thanked me. As well as some other things.
I can't fault you for trying to help. It seems to me if someone asked for help in an area you didn't know anything about, you'd go and quickly research to try to find an answer that seemed to be the best answer and a safe one. I don't think you'd ever intentionally try to hurt anyone with your advice. If I ever saw you giving advice I thought was bad, I'd call you on it. I've called you on a couple things in the past, and you explained where you were coming from and we were cool. Just a difference in perception/perspective that caused it. Yes I work hard and never give out advice I have not used or researched for a long time/got user feed back from many people on.
I don't really care for meat lofe, but if I was eating dinner at your house and you served it, I'd eat the fucker, and probably like it! As far as I know you've never been able to spell. And, I think initially, probably 90% of the mod choices were questioned or opposed. Some turned out ok, others didn't. Time tells.
You still never answered my question(s) from the AR blog thread about if supposedly all the mods were against you becoming a mod then why the hell would you want to work with them? But, I think the answer is that since you really want to help people, you went ahead and did it foe them and not to be popular with the mods.
Ask the mods what they think of me now. The reasons some of them did not want me being a mod are unknown to most of you. I don't blame any of them for the reasons they had. I knew Those reasons were far behind me or I could over come them. Ask them if I have.
I still think it's shitty that AR showed you all the mods' comments against you and your pending modship. I don't see the reason for it. IMO it was a hurtful thing. I can't see any good coming from it. I can imagine it made you a bit angry even. Fucked up move by AR IMO. And AR knows that I think that - he already sent me k about it.
He had his reasons for showing me what he did when he did. . He also had his reason for making that blog. AR knows the stands I make. He knows I am a good person and a nice guy. There is a lot of ways one could look at that blog. AR is a confrontational Type of guy much like I was not to long ago. Maybe it was something he was sitting on for a long time. Maybe there was a straw that broke the camels back for him.
I am not in his head and I don't have to be. He made the blog for his own reason. I will handle it on my end like a man. That blog means nothing as far as the way things are right now. I am part of a team. A good team. We are past all that.
Big gay hugs-n-kisses!![]()
Knock It Off said:I'd like to see the member bashing on the mod board. I get the impression that the mod board is a lot like the ladies room.
Well, thats not fair. Throw some jabs at Pintoca too...that no posting bum.velvett said:Apparently we only bash Needto.
*shrug*
But what do I know.
velvett said:Apparently we only bash Needto.
*shrug*
But what do I know.
I threw a group of guys out of my place last night. A waitress came to me and told me a guy had grabbed her ass. She showed me to the table (300 dolor bill with a 90 bottle of wine). Long story short I pored a half bottle of 90 wine of 4 guys. Two hours later I got a waitress that wants to fuck and a owner that wants to take the bill out of my pay check. I tell the owner good then I fucking quit run this place on your own. I walk out and he chases me out the door. I love getting my way. He begged almost as much as the waitress didMightyMouse69 said:Bro - we all love you so just accept it and tell us something funny.

MightyMouse69 said:This thread shows how messed up things are here...
A year ago; Need2 and Gambino would of laughed and flamed back and forth - now people are picking sides.
Now I understand why in the military officers can't fraternize with the grunts.
This whole thread is pathetic.
Angel is going to kill that bitch.needtogetaas said:I threw a group of guys out of my place last night. A waitress came to me and told me a guy had grabbed her ass. She showed me to the table (300 dolor bill with a 90 bottle of wine). Long story short I pored a half bottle of 90 wine of 4 guys. Two hours later I got a waitress that wants to fuck and a owner that wants to take the bill out of my pay check. I tell the owner good then I fucking quit run this place on your own. I walk out and he chases me out the door. I love getting my way. He begged almost as much as the waitress did![]()
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