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Needsize Squat Video

alot of lower back in there. his legs are strong, it might be a good idea to slow the pace down a bit until that back can stay up with the legs. the last couple damn near looked like good mornings at the end of the rep.

just what i noticed. :)
 
Thanks for hosting the clip bro
I just bought a digital camcorder so I thought I'd post my squat to back up my mouth, the ass to the floor no belt thing. The bar is loaded up to 435lbs (kinda hard to see with the yuppie plates). It looks like I'm leaning forward a bit but its partly the angle it was shot on, and I've never squatted 435lbs for reps before
 
bignate73 said:
alot of lower back in there. his legs are strong, it might be a good idea to slow the pace down a bit until that back can stay up with the legs. the last couple damn near looked like good mornings at the end of the rep.

just what i noticed. :)
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I was leaning a bit, but I think part of it was the angle of the camera, my training partner said my back looked pretty straight, and my back is actually stronger, ie I've deadlifted 550 for a set of 5 before. Oh well, I was just happy to hit a personal best
 
Great job.

When you squat butt to the floor you can NOT keep a perfect arch and the back MUST round a bit. It is very hard to push with the hips and hams when you go that deep...

They look great man...maybe I need to start hitting a couple sets of high bar squats again...

B True
 
Kudos for the awesome raw lift!.. not many on this site could pull that off without a trip to the hospital !.. me included!
 
Thanks guys!
B, you're kinda the motivation for aiming for the bigger weights and especially for videotaping it. My main goal is huge quads, but it is nice to hit the big weights, within the next year I want to duplicate that on 500lbs
B, tomorrow I'm going to videotape my deadlifting 500lbs for as many reps raw as I can, I'm hoping to get close to the 11 reps you posted on your video
 
Very impressive!! Form looked pretty good, depth was extraordinary, and the weight looked easy!!!

Keep up the good work!

How many inches is your stance?
 
Louden, not sure how many inches, somewhere around shoulder width, probably around 12" or so. I could probably do more if I went wider like a powerlifter, but I'm more about the big quads than the amount of weight I'm lifting
 
Hope you get that 500 on deads for a bunch of reps!!!

B True
 
b fold the truth said:
Hope you get that 500 on deads for a bunch of reps!!!

B True
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Thanks bro, recently I did 550lbs for 5, last week was 485lbs for 3x8, so I'm figuring somewhere between 8-10 reps
 
damn, I guess I need to catch up real fast.... Good work Needsize, looks real strong, finally someone who squats all the way down like myself;)
 
you get a great rebound off your hams and calves in the video... very good. I wish i could rebound like that

I think your form looked fine. Your form suits how you lift
 
BigAndy69 said:
Humm, I think I know the guy in the background
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Yup, that's dissto, good example of why my workout intensity has gone crazy in the past year or so.
Usually he's standing behind me telling me how his mom squats more than me.....I cant compete with that, she's polish....
 
2Thick said:
Great lifts, but the back was moving a bit. It is normal, but watch out if you go too heavy. This is just some advice from my powerlifting background.
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Good advice, that's one of the biggest reasons i rarely drop under 5 reps, I'm way scared of hurting myself
 
Some of you guys are way too critical in terms of evaluating his form. I have been lifting for nearly 8 years and I think he has excellent form. This is a great example of a deep squat.

When you squat past parallel, a lot of stress goes to the back. Needsize does a great job of keeping the movement solid and I see no problems with his squat at all. I see no signicant rounding or hunching while he performs the movement.

Remember, this is nearly 450lbs ass to the floor squat.

Many people can barely shift 225lbs. For those who provide criticism. . .think about the weights you are using. You may need to make some significant improvements yourself.

Again, great work Needsize!!
 
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louden_swain said:
Some of you guys are way to critical in terms of evaluating his form. I have been lifting for nearly 8 years and I think he has excellent form. This is a great example of a deep squat.

When you squat past parallel, a lot of stress goes to the back. Needsize does a great job of keeping the movement solid and I see no problems with his squat at all. I see no signicant rounding or hunching while he performs the movement.

Remember, this is nearly 450lbs ass to the floor squat.

Many people can barely shift 225lbs. For those who provide criticism. . .think about the weights you are using. You may need to make some significant improvements yourself.

Again, great work Needsize!!
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Thanks bro, it is good to hear someone else that agrees with me, otherwise it just sounds like I'm making excuses. Through the whole lift I concentrate on keeping my back as straight as I can, but once I drop below parallel it's extremely hard to keep it straight.
I've given it a lot of thought over the years, and have found that, even if I lean a bit as a result, that my quads still grow much more when I go ass to the floor. And really, thats what it's all about for me, building huge legs....
 
That's a high bar Olympic Squat right there! A heavy one at that

yeah the angle does make like your leaning too far forward. I hope to be using that kind of weight one day. Great
 
It's impossible to keep a back perpendicular to the ground at that depth. A little thing called combined center of gravity. The bar needs to be over his heels (or actually in FRONT of his heals to balance his bodyweight). It's of course, impossible to have the bar as far forward as heels when at that depth without leaning forward. Has notihng to do with strength, has to do with falling over.
 
well if your wearing olympic weightlifting shoes you can keep pretty upright, raised heel allows for that.

using a wider stance as well allows for a more upright stance.
 
CoolColJ said:
well if your wearing olympic weightlifting shoes you can keep pretty upright, raised heel allows for that.

using a wider stance as well allows for a more upright stance.
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But a wider stance involves more hips in the drive, and I'm only doing it for big quads. I could squat more as a powerlifter but it's really not that important, plus the real heavy stuff scares me sometimes
 
I use a stance that is about 16inch from heel to heel. I'm the same height as you. And I can definitely feel lots of quads. As long as your knee goes well forward, you will be getting lots of quad simulation.

Is that how wide your stance is?

I'll vid cap myself squatting tommorrow. I'm not using as much as you, but its relatively very heavy for me :)

In any case it doesn't matter, if you feel comfortable then its all fine as far as I'm concerned.

Keep pushing, if you can rep out over 600lbs, then you'll be up there with some of the strongest Olympic Lifters!
 
my stance is actually around 12"
 
Impressive weight bro. But I gotta go with Nate. That hurt my back just watching it, and I really don't think the camera angle had much to do with it.
 
Wondering if there is a strength correlation between squats and leg presses? I work out by myself when I get off work at 3:00am so heavy squats are not an option. I can leg press around 1500 for 4 reps but have never been able to squat very heavy due to lack of a squat rack. Wondering how much I might be able to squat?
 
hugecalves said:
Wondering if there is a strength correlation between squats and leg presses? I work out by myself when I get off work at 3:00am so heavy squats are not an option. I can leg press around 1500 for 4 reps but have never been able to squat very heavy due to lack of a squat rack. Wondering how much I might be able to squat?
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There is really very little correlation.
 
hugecalves said:
Wondering if there is a strength correlation between squats and leg presses? I work out by myself when I get off work at 3:00am so heavy squats are not an option. I can leg press around 1500 for 4 reps but have never been able to squat very heavy due to lack of a squat rack. Wondering how much I might be able to squat?
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once you get your back/ab strength up, and your balancing then you can squat a bit. Maybe 500lbs for the same reps going to parallel , probbaly 365 rock bottom
 
thriller said:
nice squat bro!!
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Thanks, I noticed your profile says airborn, if so, where are you stationed? My sisters boyfriend is some sort of paratrooper at Trenton
 
NeedSize what sort of shoes you wearing?

Seems like your feet a wobbling a lot, which is the same problem I have when squatting in sports shoes. I have some Olympic lifting shoes on order, these have a raised heel are solid with a reinforced heel.

see here

http://www.safe-usa.com/olympiclifting1.htm

BFold has the top one.
 
CoolColJ said:
NeedSize what sort of shoes you wearing?

Seems like your feet a wobbling a lot, which is the same problem I have when squatting in sports shoes. I have some Olympic lifting shoes on order, these have a raised heel are solid with a reinforced heel.

see here

http://www.safe-usa.com/olympiclifting1.htm

BFold has the top one.
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Just a pair of Nike cross trainers that are about 2 years old. Normally my feet dont do that, but i went so heavy that it was hard to focus on the little things. Too be honest, I hit 8 reps on 405 after that first set, and I think my form was much more on
 
I will be performing some squats today, this will give me some extra motivation. It will probably go like this:

2 x 10 - 45lbs (olympic bar warm up)
1 x 5 - 135lbs (warm up)
1 x 5 - 225lbs (warm up)
1 x 5 - 315lbs
1 x 5 - 355lbs
1 x 5 - 385lbs
1 x 5 - 405lbs
1 x 3 - 420lbs
1 x 5 - 245lbs (ass to floor. . .pause 2 count at bottom)
1 x 5 - 135lbs (ass to floor. . .pause 2 count at bottom)

Extra Leg Work:

Leg Presses - 3 x 15-6 (use wide stance)
Leg Extensions - 3 x 10
Lying Leg Curls - 3 x 15-6

My stance ranges between 16 and 20 inches.
 
That's a solid workout bro, and some good weights too. I'm on my way to deadlift now, I just hope i can find someone to tape the damn thing for me
 
needsize said:
That's a solid workout bro, and some good weights too. I'm on my way to deadlift now, I just hope i can find someone to tape the damn thing for me
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just put the camera on something, or a tripod if you have one.

I normally rest the camera on a bench or box
 
needsize said:


Just a pair of Nike cross trainers that are about 2 years old. Normally my feet dont do that, but i went so heavy that it was hard to focus on the little things. Too be honest, I hit 8 reps on 405 after that first set, and I think my form was much more on
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I don't think that's a good idea. A bit dangerous too.

I'm only squatting in the 250s now, and my shoes compress a lot. Ie the heel goes down and that makes you lean forward to compensate. You also lose power. You could probbaly squat more with a solid set of olympic weightlifting shoes.
 
CoolColJ said:


I don't think that's a good idea. A bit dangerous too.

I'm only squatting in the 250s now, and my shoes compress a lot. Ie the heel goes down and that makes you lean forward to compensate. You also lose power. You could probbaly squat more with a solid set of olympic weightlifting shoes.
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I also wear Nike cross-trainers. I don't seem to have any problems. If you elevate your heels, you are placing extra stress on the knee.
 
louden_swain said:


I also wear Nike cross-trainers. I don't seem to have any problems. If you elevate your heels, you are placing extra stress on the knee.
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well you don't want the heels to compress either :)

I mean I can squish my shoes's heel with my fingers - not good
 
CoolColJ said:


well you don't want the heels to compress either :)

I mean I can squish my shoes's heel with my fingers - not good
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It is hard to find shoes with extra ankle support these days. I think this is very important for all athletics.
 
I dont know if I'm going to get olympic shoes, but I do know I need new ones.
The deadlift video is done, just waiting for ck to come online so he can host it
 
i dont like the form...sorry boys


louden_swain :

"It is hard to find shoes with extra ankle support these days. I think this is very important for all athletics." if you want weak ankles that is. if the athlete plays or competes with no ankle support you would want them to train with no ankle support...to help strengthen the area. If you use crutchs like these...and then move into an unprotected environment, then you will be waiting for an injury. I understand injurys of repetative strain nature are an issue.....but stretcing and correct training form and exercises along with stretching will help prevent this.

also i am glad you reserve the pause squats for lighter weights...and you also spend a lot of time on warm up...very good.


In regards to coolcolj and olympic shoes. I couldnt belive the difference with olympic shoes....to steal a quote and change the analogy..."squating with sneakers is like firing a cannon out of a canoe" I love my new shoes....squating feels so much beter. there is more power transfer, due to the solid base.

But i dont think expensive shoes are a must. a good thing to have...but not essential. as long as the sole is even and not badly worn.

I used to like squating in bare feet....it gives the same effect....many gyms wont allow it. (gyms and orthopedic surgeons)
 
Great job Needsize. I know you're going to bring us an even heavier squat video clip soon! That's one thing I absolutely love, is when people strive to beat their best instead of just going through the motions. You're truly motivating Needsize!
 
You did a GREAT job keeping your back as straight as possible. I think your form is a good example of smart training.

Did you purposely slow the reps when you felt your hips leading and not your shoulders?

Where are your knees going? I can't see because the weights block them, but it looks like they go past your toes once you really break parellel.. possible?
 
Deadz said:
You did a GREAT job keeping your back as straight as possible. I think your form is a good example of smart training.

Did you purposely slow the reps when you felt your hips leading and not your shoulders?

Where are your knees going? I can't see because the weights block them, but it looks like they go past your toes once you really break parellel.. possible?
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Thanks, I keep my back as straight as possible, but when you bottom out like that its impossible to keep it 100% straight. I try to keep rep speed pretty slow, it was actually faster in this vid then normally because I had never squatted that much for reps before and was struggling with control. I'm pretty sure my knees dont go out over my toes, I concentrate on driving them outwards
 
good weight! You do have a slight bounce out of the bottom, and if you notice it was not until the 3rd rep (legs started to fatigue) that your hips started to rise before your shoulders ...I can squat quite a bit more then you, but your deadlifts absolutly blow me out of the water! Can't wait to see the video !:o
 
just for the record guys, i was training at the same time as Needsize last night and there is nothing wrong with his squatting technique,in my opinion. Nice deep squats, good back form, no knees over the toes, I was impressed! Now, I'll just wait for a new video from Needsize with a heavier squat!
 
Thanks Fyre, I feel better hearing that
 
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