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[claytondavis1130]

So I'm new to the lifting scene. Been lifting for close to 6 months. I just finished my first cycle of PH. And I'm starting my post cycle. I'm not a fan of the PH because of the side effects, but I am also not to knowledgeable on this topic. Any advice on what I should be taking and not taking. Any advice is good advice. Thanks in advance.

I am 5' 11" and weigh 190. When I started 6 months ago I weighed 205.


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[stevesmi]

pro hormones in the US were banned 2 years ago. i'm not sure what you can, but it likely was a weak DHEA based PH. unless you got a PH off the black market.

a simple PCT coming off a PH either way is going to be hcgenerate for 4 weeks.. that will work just fine for you.

 

[muskate]

First things first, you need to run a mini PCT to restore natural testosterone production.

Don't think that just because pro-hormones are a pill that they aren't strong. Nothing could be further from the truth. Pro-Hormones are very suppressive of natural testosterone production.

Run a mini PCT like this -
4 weeks of:
a good natural testosterone booster like HCGenerate 5 capsules/day
(optional) clomid 25mg/day

Ever since the 2014 pro-hormone ban, all that's left on the market are weak DHEA based products that you are honestly going to notice nothing from.


There are basically two alternatives to pro-hormones:
1. You could use steroids. Steroids will arguably be more effective and cause way less side effects then any pro-hormone. In this video I explain how to properly run an oral only steroid cycle - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DBrylerLxA


2. If you don't want to use something illegal, SARMS are going to be your best option. A very common SARMS cycle is the SARMS triple stack. The triple stack is combination of S4 + ostarine + cardarine. http://www.evolutionary.org/the-SARMS-triple-stack-protocol
Cardarine is a great SARM for fat loss and endurance
Ostarine is a great SARM for recovery
S4 is a great SARM for strength gains
You get the best of everything by stacking the three together.
I explain SARMS in depth in this video here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-tc-GDEVF0

 

[claytondavis1130]

First things first, you need to run a mini PCT to restore natural testosterone production.

Don't think that just because pro-hormones are a pill that they aren't strong. Nothing could be further from the truth. Pro-Hormones are very suppressive of natural testosterone production.

Run a mini PCT like this -
4 weeks of:
a good natural testosterone booster like HCGenerate 5 capsules/day
(optional) clomid 25mg/day

Ever since the 2014 pro-hormone ban, all that's left on the market are weak DHEA based products that you are honestly going to notice nothing from.


There are basically two alternatives to pro-hormones:
1. You could use steroids. Steroids will arguably be more effective and cause way less side effects then any pro-hormone. In this video I explain how to properly run an oral only steroid cycle - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DBrylerLxA


2. If you don't want to use something illegal, SARMS are going to be your best option. A very common SARMS cycle is the SARMS triple stack. The triple stack is combination of S4 + ostarine + cardarine. http://www.evolutionary.org/the-SARMS-triple-stack-protocol
Cardarine is a great SARM for fat loss and endurance
Ostarine is a great SARM for recovery
S4 is a great SARM for strength gains
You get the best of everything by stacking the three together.
I explain SARMS in depth in this video here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-tc-GDEVF0

Thank you for the information! This is exactly what I was looking for!


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[MasonicBodybuilder]

As you stick around and do more reading you will find that prohormones are definitely not the most effective thing to run. Take a look at SARMs for next time. They are very effective and will not cause side effects like liver toxicity or water retention that some PH/AAS can.